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Will the Empire ever change to the metric system, do you think? (Original Post) raccoon Jun 2012 OP
But numburz iz hard and stuffs. Systematic Chaos Jun 2012 #1
It's all arbitrary ain't it? Sure powers of 10 is somewhat simplyfying HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #2
It's the furlongs to fortnight conversion I'm worried about. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #4
How many kentauros Jun 2012 #43
Depends on the mode and harmonic mean. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #47
Hey, soda and booze are already sold in metric units - handwriting's on the wall!!! HopeHoops Jun 2012 #3
Who cares if Alderaan is 40 billion metric tonnes or 40 brazillian pounds OriginalGeek Jun 2012 #5
Huh?? How much is a brazilian?? madinmaryland Jun 2012 #12
At least minimum wage OriginalGeek Jun 2012 #17
map pokerfan Jun 2012 #6
That's not really accurate. harmonicon Jun 2012 #10
Japan is not fully metric, either Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #20
That's wild, but great. harmonicon Jun 2012 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #23
Japan isn't so bad Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #24
It seems like a great place, in many ways... harmonicon Jun 2012 #25
I had often thought I would end up in Europe Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #27
Do you think you'll stay there? harmonicon Jun 2012 #29
To tell you the truth, I don't know Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #30
Same in China geardaddy Jun 2012 #32
That just goes to show, people will retain odd systems of measurements Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #39
Very good points. geardaddy Jun 2012 #40
Great post. nt raccoon Jun 2012 #46
I think the map indicates predominately JonLP24 Jun 2012 #31
Well, I would say that in the UK, people don't think of themselves as using metric. (nt) harmonicon Jun 2012 #34
Granted it's an uphill battle 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #33
In '67, Pres. Johnson signed the first law converting the US to the metric system. Bucky Jun 2012 #7
I'll let you know when I've finished the Pepsi in my 2-liter bottle... backscatter712 Jun 2012 #8
I'm finishing my pint of beer!! madinmaryland Jun 2012 #11
Is it flavourful? El Supremo Jun 2012 #14
It tis my friend. It tis also verily colourful!! madinmaryland Jun 2012 #18
How many kilowatts have you used up this month? kentauros Jun 2012 #44
Not as long as this group is in charge: Initech Jun 2012 #9
give 'em an inch....they'll take a mile IcyPeas Jun 2012 #13
About as well as a 305mm hot dog Ptah Jun 2012 #16
How many kilos is that sausage? El Supremo Jun 2012 #19
I'm Australian and we went metric back in the 60s and 70s SwissTony Jun 2012 #28
In my (metric) country, it goes "give 'em an inch, they'll take a mile." (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2012 #35
Reagan stopped our conversion. El Supremo Jun 2012 #15
Was that before or after the "smartest President in the World" took the A Simple Game Jun 2012 #22
It we hold out long enough they'll all come crawling back. jp11 Jun 2012 #26
No! No foreign rulers in America! Ron Obvious Jun 2012 #36
We in Canada changed to metric when I was about 7. I do temperatures in metric. Height and applegrove Jun 2012 #37
If feets 'n' inchez wuz good enuf fer Jesus, ther good enuf fer Murika! Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #38
What's the metric system? Ter Jun 2012 #41
We're inching our way to it... On the last mile... Xipe Totec Jun 2012 #42
Don't you remember the 70s? Augh! ashling Jun 2012 #45
I hope not Rochester Jun 2012 #48
yes, right before the Apocalypse Enrique Jun 2012 #49

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
2. It's all arbitrary ain't it? Sure powers of 10 is somewhat simplyfying
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:34 PM
Jun 2012

but who wants simple when it means losing the knowledge of the weight of a stone or the number of feet in an acre???????????????

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
3. Hey, soda and booze are already sold in metric units - handwriting's on the wall!!!
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:44 PM
Jun 2012

On Edit: Besides. Switching to measuring gas by the liter will drastically lower the price!

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
10. That's not really accurate.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:30 PM
Jun 2012

Many things in the UK are Imperial, not metric. Distances are always given in miles, but gasoline is sold in liters. Beer is sold in Imperial pints and half pints, while wine is sold in measurements of milliliters. Weight is generally given in pounds and stones, though some things are sold buy the kilogram.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
20. Japan is not fully metric, either
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 05:59 AM
Jun 2012

For example, the official unit used when buying a house or land is the tsubo, which is about 3.2 square meters. Also, the floorspace in a room is determined by the number of tamami mats it can hold, rather than by the number of square meters. And the old shakukan system is still used for agricultural measurements. For example, one koku of rice weighs 150kg.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
21. That's wild, but great.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 06:38 AM
Jun 2012

I think traditions like these should be held on to, so long as they aren't causing harm. It's like preserving uncommon languages; keeping these things around gives us an understanding of the world that wouldn't exist otherwise.

That said, I'm now even more frightened by the prospect of ever moving to Japan.

Response to harmonicon (Reply #21)

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
24. Japan isn't so bad
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:18 AM
Jun 2012

I've lived in Japan for years and years. It's got its disadvantages, to be sure, but it's definitely one of the better countries in the world-- extremely high literacy rate, universal health insurance, the world's highest life expectancy rate, the world's highest infant survival rate, one of the world's lowest crime rates, very little gun-related crime, no hate radio, well-developed public transportation system, relatively low GINI index, fairly decent educational system...

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
25. It seems like a great place, in many ways...
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 01:24 PM
Jun 2012

but I get the impression that the culture is significantly different to what I'm used to. I always say that I'd go anywhere for the right work, but if it were somewhere in Asia, I'm not sure I'd be able to cope - Europe is easy.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
27. I had often thought I would end up in Europe
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:16 AM
Jun 2012

In high school and early college, I had thought my future was in Europe, and I started preparing for that. I had never even considered Asia, because like you, I thought I would not be able to cope in any Asian culture. But I ended up heading in the other direction after an amazing experience that I had many years ago.

It helps if you have someone to guide you through the new culture.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
29. Do you think you'll stay there?
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 07:23 AM
Jun 2012

I've been in the UK for nearly five years now, and I have leave soon (though there's a chance I could get a new visa later this year, I don't have a job lined up). I really don't want to go - this seems more like "home" to me now, whatever that is. I've lived in my town here for longer than anywhere since I was 18. I've got a gig in Switzerland for the first half of next year, and maybe I'll feel the same way about that place, but I don't know, having only visited before. Who knows....

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
30. To tell you the truth, I don't know
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 08:36 AM
Jun 2012

how much longer I'll stay in Japan. I have been here a lonnnnnng time, and I have the right to stay here indefinitely, but at the same time, I do get homesick, especially when I go back to the States for a visit. But my hometown has changed drastically from the time I was growing up there, and I'm not sure I could live there as an adult. I'm sure I would get reverse culture shock if I did go back for good.

By the way, Switzerland and the UK were the two countries I was particularly interested in when I was in high school. One of my former classmates actually ended up in Switzerland, and he seems to like it there.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
39. That just goes to show, people will retain odd systems of measurements
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 08:53 PM
Jun 2012

if they are comfortable with them.

Americans are comfortable buying gas by the gallon, weighing things by the pound, measuring distance with miles, judging home size by square feet. Having lived long periods in both English and metric systems, I cannot think of one single instance where dealing with a metric measurement made my life any more convenient than dealing with an English measurement. Even today, in fact, I still subconsciously convert kilometers to miles to determine how fast and how far I am "really" going. LOL.

Of course, the metric system is superior for science and engineering because those fields involve a lot of calculations, but for the average American who doesn't need to make a lot of calculations, metric doesn't really have any special benefit in daily living unless it's for small units without an English equivalent, like grams and millimeters.

geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
40. Very good points.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:44 AM
Jun 2012

I agree that if you're comfortable with the system for everyday things, then what's the harm? I used to convert Chinese pounds into Imperial pounds (it wasn't that hard, only .10 of a pound difference).

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
31. I think the map indicates predominately
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:11 PM
Jun 2012

There are things in the US that are metric but mostly non-metric.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
33. Granted it's an uphill battle
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:29 PM
Jun 2012

but I am confident that with our Liberian and Burmese allies we'll eventually be able to win the rest over.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
8. I'll let you know when I've finished the Pepsi in my 2-liter bottle...
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:51 PM
Jun 2012

We actually use metric measurements more than you think.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
18. It tis my friend. It tis also verily colourful!!
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:56 PM
Jun 2012

Let me finish my pint of ale and I will get back to you.

BTW, That was a real nice hit by Bill Mazeroski a few years ago. Anytime the Skankees lose is a good time!

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
44. How many kilowatts have you used up this month?
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:22 AM
Jun 2012

And how many mg of aspirin did you have to use last summer upon seeing your bill for August?

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
28. I'm Australian and we went metric back in the 60s and 70s
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 07:20 AM
Jun 2012

though we still have a few holdovers e.g. psi.

But we still use that expression and others ("do the hard yards&quot . We also say "It's raining cats and dogs". Idiomatic expressions.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
22. Was that before or after the "smartest President in the World" took the
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:58 AM
Jun 2012

solar panels off the White House?

applegrove

(118,658 posts)
37. We in Canada changed to metric when I was about 7. I do temperatures in metric. Height and
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 05:33 PM
Jun 2012

weight I still do the old fashioned way forty years later.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
42. We're inching our way to it... On the last mile...
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 08:44 PM
Jun 2012

Fighting for every yard...

One foot in front of the other...

Rochester

(838 posts)
48. I hope not
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 10:50 PM
Jun 2012

You can have my feet and inches and miles and gallons and pounds and ounces and Fahrenheit degrees when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers!

I've used the American system my whole life and it works just fine. I have no desire to try to acclimatize myself to a new system just because "it's simpler" or "the rest of the world uses it".

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