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Microsoft vs Apple Innovation (Original Post) Pryderi Jun 2012 OP
Yes they are... rawtribe Jun 2012 #1
Bill? Is that you? phantom power Jun 2012 #2
I don't see Bill holding the keyboard or stylus that went with it Electric Monk Jun 2012 #3
Well, yeah, but Apple stole the Mac concept from Xerox and M$ stole it from both. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #4
You mean moose cock wrapped around a whale schlong. cliffordu Jun 2012 #5
Yeah, that's about right. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #6
Since when did they settle on a universal charger? TrogL Jun 2012 #7
Apple is being difficult. the two BBs are on opposite sides of a tech advance. The LG? No idea. Chan790 Jun 2012 #8
If Bill would have just worn jeans and a black turtle neck.... ChromeFoundry Jun 2012 #9
That's funny as hell OhioChick Jun 2012 #10
You Seem To... WiffenPoof Jun 2012 #11
Newton was a PDA not a tablet... ChromeFoundry Jun 2012 #13
Thank you... WiffenPoof Jun 2012 #14
No worries ChromeFoundry Jun 2012 #15
Why Do You Hate Apple So Much... WiffenPoof Jun 2012 #12
I have. kurtzapril4 Jun 2012 #16
LOL, run a help desk for 6 months for mac users, wow the apple fans, Logical Jun 2012 #17
I've only had to call them a few times in the last 20+ years Rob H. Jun 2012 #19
Yes, people are idiots. There's this baffling Apple craze. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #18
I'm no defender of Apple... TroglodyteScholar Jun 2012 #20
Microsoft DOES produce the most innovative tech... jmowreader Jun 2012 #21
 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
3. I don't see Bill holding the keyboard or stylus that went with it
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jun 2012
http://www.pcworld.com/article/67572/microsoft_expects_to_ship_tablet_pc_in_2002.html

Apparently the market really cared that you could just use your fingers right on the screen.
 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
4. Well, yeah, but Apple stole the Mac concept from Xerox and M$ stole it from both.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:33 PM
Jun 2012

Convergence of technology is inevitable. That's why seat belts all use the same clip and USB ports are all standard now. It took the fucking cell phone industry FOREVER to settle on a universal charger plug.

BTW - the original tablet pc sucked moose cock - and I mean a HUGE moose cock.

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
7. Since when did they settle on a universal charger?
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:12 PM
Jun 2012

My iPhone takes a proprietary Apple cord, my wife's Blackberry takes a little skinny thing, my older Blackberry takes a different shape and my son's LG takes something different again.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
8. Apple is being difficult. the two BBs are on opposite sides of a tech advance. The LG? No idea.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:52 PM
Jun 2012

Apple refuses to switch to a now-industry-standard for smartphones microUSB charger port. The older Blackberry is using the previous-standard miniUSB port probably. Assuming the LG is a regular cell-phone, it's probably on a proprietary charger still because the use of Micro/Mini USB would allow it to be hooked to a computer USB port and it's not designed to handle that amount of electricity. Doing so would brick it if it didn't immediately make the battery explode.


MiniUSB left, MicroUSB right.

ChromeFoundry

(3,270 posts)
9. If Bill would have just worn jeans and a black turtle neck....
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jun 2012

oh, how much more of an iconic innovator he could have been.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
11. You Seem To...
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 01:39 AM
Jun 2012

forget a little item called "Newton" by Apple (circa 1993) that was ahead of everyone else.

-P

ChromeFoundry

(3,270 posts)
13. Newton was a PDA not a tablet...
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 10:07 AM
Jun 2012

and it was not the first of its kind:

The first PDA was released in 1986 by Psion, the Organizer II.
Psion's then released the Series 3, in 1991.

I'm not hating on Apple, just correcting your misinformation.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
14. Thank you...
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 10:49 AM
Jun 2012

I actually did a little research after I posted and realized that I was completely wrong...sorry.

-P

ChromeFoundry

(3,270 posts)
15. No worries
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 01:35 PM
Jun 2012

All big technology companies steal a good portion of their products. They all suck.
Apple just was able to make everyone believe that they are the only innovators when the Open Source community that built BSD wrote most of their OS. Apple put lipstick on it and made it more friendly to use. Microsoft does the same thing.

Not too many people using NetBeui, Appletalk or IPX anymore...just sayin'

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
12. Why Do You Hate Apple So Much...
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 01:40 AM
Jun 2012

...must have a lot of time on your hands.

-P

I got to tell ya that I have only had to call Apple a couple of times in my life (because their products are of the highest quality)...when I did, I got help within 10 seconds. Try that with any other company.

-P

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
16. I have.
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 02:02 PM
Jun 2012

I'm writing this on a Toshiba Satellite. Had a problem with it once. Called customer service. Fixed in 5 minutes.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
17. LOL, run a help desk for 6 months for mac users, wow the apple fans,
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 03:43 PM
Jun 2012

Are honestly fucking brainwashed! Scary.

Rob H.

(5,351 posts)
19. I've only had to call them a few times in the last 20+ years
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 06:54 PM
Jun 2012

The CRT on my Color Classic kept going out and replacing the CRT and other components never fixed it, so I had to send it back. Shame, too--it was the first computer that I bought for myself and I really liked that little Mac while I had it. (I bought a PowerMac 7100/80 a couple of years later and never had to call for support for that one or any of the many other Macs I've owned or used at work since then, fwiw.)

Here's a Color Classic in all its 16 MHz glory:



I have to admit, though, that the second time I called I was on hold so long I actually nodded off for a minute. Note to tech support types: there is such a thing as hold music that's too soothing.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
18. Yes, people are idiots. There's this baffling Apple craze.
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 09:15 PM
Jun 2012

Iphones that don't work right, that people stand in hours for line to buy. They don't just spend hundreds of dollars buying one, they then sign contracts to pay a monthly fee for the privilege of using the thing that drops calls & breaks if you drop it. It's baffling.

But that's why I own Apple stock. If there's one thing you can count on, it's that people chase hot things and companies.

Don't get me wrong. Apple has been innovative, & their products have a coolness factor. But they don't as well as you'd think, from all the hype, and they're overpriced.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
20. I'm no defender of Apple...
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 09:37 PM
Jun 2012

But did you notice what OS is running on Gates' 2002 tablet?

XP was worse than shit for a touch interface. I had to use XP for touch devices on the job for a while, and it was minimally functional at best. Gates was on the right track with the tablet, but lacked the vision to understand that such a radically different form factor calls for a completely different interface.

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