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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsHandy people, can you help with a doorknob problem?
I feel like there must be some simple solution to this problem, but I can't find it.
I have a closet with the original old brass doorknob (like 100 years old). Something has broken and the doorknob no longer moves the bolt. I can't open the door.
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There are no visible screws on the outside. When I look at my other closets with the same kind of doorknob, the screws all seem to be on the inside. As you can see, I thought that ridge on the stem was a sleeve of some kind hiding the screws and I tried to pop it up, but I can't get it to separate from the knob, so I'm not sure if it's supposed to. So then I tried threading a wire through to see if I can slide the bolt that way, but it only catches on the flat part of the bolt.
Anyone ever have this problem? What was your solution? I am sure this is a common doorknob type. I am thinking I'll have to take the door off, but I'd prefer not to if I don't have to.
Any help would be appreciated! My coffee stash is in there!
Croney
(4,670 posts)Squinch
(51,014 posts)Rincewind
(1,205 posts)Take a flat bar, and try to pry the door and the jam apart. The bolt isn't very long, so you might be able to do it. I had to do this to my front door years ago when the key broke off in the lock.
Squinch
(51,014 posts)Just checked and it looks like the other side of the door is pretty tight. But I have some shims. I'll try this when my downstairs neighbors are up and let you know if it worked. Thanks!
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pansypoo53219
(20,996 posts)OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,857 posts)Just noticed one of the exposed hinges in the picture.
Squinch
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Squinch
(51,014 posts)And thanks for the warning on the weight. I probably wouldn't have thought of that.
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magicarpet
(14,174 posts)Once open repair the door knob or replace.
iscooterliberally
(2,863 posts)Slide it down and see if you can push the bolt back into the door and pop it open. That should do the least damage if you can make it work. Once the door is open, change out the door knob and all the parts inside.
Squinch
(51,014 posts)other way. It's flat on my side.
My building is very, very weirdly constructed. Some things are genius. Some are just a total pain!
But thank you!
iscooterliberally
(2,863 posts)Sometimes this trick works and sometimes it doesnt. I was hoping to save you all the work of removing the bolts from the hinges, which is a real pain. I hope you can get to your coffee soon!
maxrandb
(15,357 posts)then you can get to the screws to fix or change out the doornob and lock mechanism.
Just start with the middle hinge. A Phillips Screwdriver our large nail and hammer can be used to remove the pins from the hinges.
I always remove the hinges in this order, middle, bottom, top.
You might have to use a prybar or flat screwdriver to loosen the door, but once the hinges are off, it should come right out.
For interior doors, I always install the doorknob with the screw access on the outside because this has happened to me before.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,857 posts)Use one of them to "grab" the bolt near the jam and wiggle it out, and the other one to hold it in place so it doesn't keep slipping back in.
It never happened to me, so...
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)VIDEO: HOW TO REMOVE A DOORKNOB WITH NO VISIBLE SCREWS
VIDEO: How to Remove a Doorknob with No Visible Screws
Many door handles have visible screws on the trim plate on one side of the door. Simply unscrew these screws, unscrew the latch from the door edge, and remove all the pieces.
If you can't see any screws, don't worry, they're there. But you'll have to take the knob off first.
There should be a small latch near the base of the knob or handle, probably on the exterior side of the door.
Push this latch in, and pull the handle off the door.
Next, find a small slot on the edge of the trim piece. Insert the tip of a screwdriver and pry off the trim piece.
how to remove a door knob
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Squinch
(51,014 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)struggle4progress
(118,348 posts)Pop open a cold frosty and relax, admiring elegance of this simple solution. Being troubled by time travel paradoxes only means it's time for another cold frosty
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,857 posts)Squinch
(51,014 posts)them a few things. Some stuff they did great! Like they wired all the apartments so that they have two sources. So if there's a blackout you seldom lose full power. Genius! But then they did stuff like this.
However, it is a hundred years later. I suppose I can't complain about the lasting power of their work.
struggle4progress
(118,348 posts)I'd try that if some gentle prybar action doesn't do the trick. If off-hinges doesn't work for some reason, I'd partly reinsert the pins and try to saw off the doorknob to see if the bolt can be jiggled enough for off-hinges to succeed: but do wear safety goggles: I once got a tiny splinter of brass in my eye, and although it did no real damage, the ER visit sucked up about six hours, during most of which I was in excruciating pain, until Dr Steady Hands found it and plucked it out
Squinch
(51,014 posts)struggle4progress
(118,348 posts)From some sawed piece of metal that got tossed on the shelf without being rinsed or wiped first, I'd guess. Repeated rinsing didn't work. Doc numbed my eye, couldn't find the problem, got some fancy strap-on microscope and fluorescent dye, looked and immediately said "Oh, there it is" and that was that. Worst thing was the before hours of keeping my arms down and my fists clenched so I didn't rub my eye and grind it in
Squinch
(51,014 posts)Historic NY
(37,453 posts)is that the hinge for the door to the left? If so knock out the pins and then loosen it off the hinge. You make have to cut or scrape the paint to loosen it.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)If so you will need an allen wrench to get it out then your doorknob should come off.
Squinch
(51,014 posts)Got all excited, and thought I found it, but it turned out to just be dirt.
But thank you. It was worth the try.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Squinch
(51,014 posts)not sure if there was some "doh!" solution to the doorknob, but it appears there is not. So I feel better going for the pins.
I'm waiting for a decent hour for my downstairs neighbors and then I'll get to it.
I'll report back once it's done.
Thank you all for your advice. I've learned a lot and you have helped me come up with the solution.
Mwah to all of you!
PS: Aren't you excited about Kamala?
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)See the slight dome with a dark edge? Check with a screwdriver to see if it is a cap and try to pop it off. A thin flat head should be able to get into the groove and pry it.
If that is a cap, there should be one on each side and that should reveal the nut/bolt that holds it to the door.
Squinch
(51,014 posts)Squinch
(51,014 posts)Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)I thought that might be it. I've come across knobs that are like that.
You're welcome. Good luck with that odd knob there.
Squinch
(51,014 posts)hinges. I'll report back on how it went.
Thanks to everyone.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Theyre really pretty on the inside too
randr
(12,415 posts)A paper clip can be used to push in hidden pin to release knob and expose opening mechanism. If it is as old as you suspect this will not work and you are lucky the hinges are exposed. Good luck!
Ahpook
(2,751 posts)They are very decent problem solvers in this capacity.
We had a dog that was very witty and nicknamed him Houdini. He understood the function of a doorknob, but couldn't quite turn it. Occasionally he would get it!
Just making fun! Hope you get it fixed
lastlib
(23,287 posts)(we joked that he must've had his own key set.....)
But it was a very old farmhouse, and none of the doors actually locked! (out there in the toolies in those days, nobody locked doors anyway; nobody worried about thefts, and, hell--we didn't have anything worth stealing anyway (except the raccoon.))
onethatcares
(16,185 posts)look on the bottom side of the knob where it goes into the estrucheon plate. There should be an indent or a pin that goes into the knob. if it's a pin use a paper clip or small screwdriver to push the pin into the knob while pulling out on the knob. it should seperate, then look for a cut out slot on the door knob estrucheon plate, insert a small screwdriver into that slot and pop the plate off to expose the screws.
I think you'll find that the spring has broken on the striker. or the old pot metal has broken. .
Replace as possible.
You also need to put an oversize estrucheon plate behind that knob, the door is getting chewed up and that will lead to more $$ spent on an easy repair.
To pop the door open, use a nut pick between the door and jamb at the striker and work the bolt back. You might need two picks.
The disassembly may also have to be done from the inside part of the latch instead of the exterior side. Check the other existing latches and good luck. If you'll fly me in from west central floriduh I'd be glad to only charge $65.00 to repair that.