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UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 10:00 PM Jun 2012

Shirley MacLaine: yeas & nays. She's a great Dem. Yet I've felt a coldness.

Could be that she's the maximum Extrovert. Us introverts just don't warm up to those.

My main negative was when Richard DREYFUS collected his Oscar and she just shoved him aside in his moment, with her paen to the love for Warren her brother. And that's something, why are they siblings and named whatever. Something like when Angelina kissed her brother on the mouth. Where is *he* all these years, by the bye?!1 But I digress.

When she won for Terms of Endearment, I loved it. And her in Sweet Charity. Other things, meh, but who am I.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_MacLaine
.... Her uncle (her mother's brother-in-law) was A.A. MacLeod, a Communist member of the Ontario legislature in the 1940s. ....

Don Siegel, her director on Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970) said of her: "It's hard to feel any great warmth to her. She's too unfeminine and has too much balls. She's very, very hard."[8] ....

In 1980, she starred in A Change of Seasons alongside Anthony Hopkins. The pair famously didn't get along and Hopkins said “she was the most obnoxious actress I have ever worked with."[10] In 1983, she won an Oscar for Terms of Endearment. ....

Shirley shares a birthday (April 24) with her good friend, Barbra Streisand, and they traditionally spend it together each year. ....

MacLaine is godmother to the daughter of U.S. Representative, Dennis Kucinich, a Democrat and former mayor of Cleveland, Ohio.[16]

With her younger brother, Warren Beatty, MacLaine used her celebrity status in instrumental roles as a fundraiser and organizer for George McGovern's campaign for president in 1972.[17][18][19] That year, she authored the book McGovern: The Man and His Beliefs.[17]

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Shirley MacLaine: yeas & nays. She's a great Dem. Yet I've felt a coldness. (Original Post) UTUSN Jun 2012 OP
What? Is this a euology? Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #1
Not a eulogy, it was the AFI award for her. Uh, "too much woman for the men"?!1 UTUSN Jun 2012 #2
I didn't see that presentation. Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #6
Couldn't find additional details about her/HOPKINS, but '95 she had a gala and nobody went UTUSN Jun 2012 #4
She'll all get even with them in the aferlife. Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #7
Being an extrovert probably has nothing to do with it bigwillq Jun 2012 #3
Well, O.K. then, so our antipathies are natural, I share MERKEL's v. Shrub UTUSN Jun 2012 #5
He was so clueless, wasn't he? Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #8

Baitball Blogger

(46,737 posts)
1. What? Is this a euology?
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 10:57 PM
Jun 2012

She was a role model in my time. Not surprised that she was too much woman for the men of the times.

Two Mules for Sister Sara. All time favorite Drive-in movie.

UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
2. Not a eulogy, it was the AFI award for her. Uh, "too much woman for the men"?!1
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 09:17 AM
Jun 2012

Which men, DREYFUS and HOPKINS? I don't see much in a gender vs gender way, or in any kind of group being inherently special. Iow, equality doesn't grant *extra* worth to any one group. Rudeness, stepping on somebody by hogging the limelight when the other person is receiving their bit of a career award, does not signal superiority. IIRC, she was the presenter of the Oscar to DREYFUS, and he barely got a chance to talk while she literally shoved him aside and did a monolog about how great Warren is. As I said, maybe it's an extrovert thing. Extroverts of whatever gender or ethnicity or race make me cringe.

I'm curious about whatever went on between her and HOPKINS. Let's see if Google knows something.

UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
4. Couldn't find additional details about her/HOPKINS, but '95 she had a gala and nobody went
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 09:52 AM
Jun 2012

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http://articles.nydailynews.com/1995-05-10/gossip/17971972_1_shirley-maclaine-luna-park-bella-abzug

[font size=5]The Trouble With Shirley Gala: Maclaine's Peers Don't Show[/font]

BY GEORGE RUSH AND JOANNA MOLLOY
Wednesday, May 10, 1995

Other than the lady herself, not a lot of stars turned out for Monday's Lincoln Center Film Society tribute to Shirley MacLaine. Why? The whisper was that they snubbed her because of what she wrote about them, or their friends, in her all-too-candid autobiography. ....

Both her honorary chairmen were missing. Her great pal Barbra Streisand was in New York, but a photo shoot with Life magazine took precedence. And where was Shirley's bro, Warren Beatty?

"Don't ask me," Film Society executive producer Wendy Keys told us. "My jaws are tight on that one. Frankly, I'm stupefied he wasn't there."

Keys vouched that most of the missing had plausible alibis: Nichols was shooting in L.A., Baryshnikov was in Chicago; Wilder had an ear infection. ....

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bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
3. Being an extrovert probably has nothing to do with it
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 09:23 AM
Jun 2012

Or at least it shouldn't.

Folks who are extroverts, just like those who are introverts, really can't help it. They are who they are.

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