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Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:43 PM Jun 2012

Stories from the Heartland: Human Nature

The wonderful human being who goes by MiddleFingerMom here on the board introduced me to John Steinbeck a couple of years ago. For those who are unfamiliar with Steinbeck, he is considered one of the greatest novelists in American literature. He had a positive view of human nature. He thought that we are all essentially good without any divine intervention. We all have our faults, but when it comes down to it, most of us want to be good to each other.

I'm studying business right now in college. I'm going part time and I work full time. One of the first tenets of economics is that we all conduct ourselves in a way that is consistent with our own self interests. That is like a law in the social science of economics. It's one of the first things they throw out there to you. But they go further. They also say that when everyone behaves in a way that is consistent with their own self interests it benefits society. That is, if you behave selfishly that is also in the social interest. Everybody going after what they want creates the best society.

Both views are true. They are at odds with each other, but they are both true. And it's up to us to find the right balance. The ACA is a step in that direction.

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Stories from the Heartland: Human Nature (Original Post) Tobin S. Jun 2012 OP
What an interesting post, my dear Tobin... CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2012 #1
Just what I'm going through right now and how it relates to current events Tobin S. Jun 2012 #2
Shakespeare said "To thine own self be true..." CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2012 #3
Maybe it;'s the diesel fumes.... Mopar151 Jun 2012 #4

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,726 posts)
1. What an interesting post, my dear Tobin...
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:56 PM
Jun 2012

I thought you'd posted another story from your years on the road...

But no.

Steinbeck is a wonderful writer.

What got you going on this topic tonight? I am curious...


Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
2. Just what I'm going through right now and how it relates to current events
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:01 AM
Jun 2012

I want to to be good to others and I also want to do what is good for me. That is that I am altruistic and selfish at the same time.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,726 posts)
3. Shakespeare said "To thine own self be true..."
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:16 AM
Jun 2012

"then thou cannot be false to any man." or words to that effect.

It's what you're doing, I think.

It's a good thing.


Mopar151

(10,002 posts)
4. Maybe it;'s the diesel fumes....
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:51 AM
Jun 2012

Forrest Lucas (Lucas Oil) used to be a long-haul trucker - mostly hosehold moving, a lot of executive relocation. One of his guiding principles? "It does'nt cost a thing to be nice!"
And a lot of successful people work this way. I;'ve heard it said (Burt Cohen, "Winning through Negotiation" IIRC) that the key to a successful deal is understanding the needs of the other party - that is the mutual self-interest that makes that tenent of economics true.

And yes, John Stienbeck is a great writer - underrated by snobs, IMHO - and he is right about people basically wanting to be good to one another. I took a course on supervision years ago, and we started with a survey on what is important to people about their job - the results are suprisingly positive.

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