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"If I ever really get mad at Gore Vidal, I'll publish his script." - Tinto BrassI love movies based on ancient historical events. Take Stanley Kubrick's Spartacus, for example. A lush, sweeping historical epic about mankind's long-suppressed dream of freedom and one courageous man who led a revolt against the mighty Roman Republic and almost got away with it. But I realize that many of these epics, out of necessity, often play around with the historical facts either for dramatic effect or to bolster the screenplay or God knows what. So I decided to take a chance with the 1979 movie Caligula starring Malcolm McDowell as the depraved emperor of Rome. Yes, I knew it had an X rating, but I had also seen The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, And Her Lover many years ago and figured I was in for a somewhat disturbing but artistically sound production that may never have gotten the respect it truly deserves. Right?
NO. Ba-BOW! And down goes derby for the count, staring at the screen and muttering "What the hell was that?"
Okay, so here's what I learned:
1. Teresa Ann Savoy is a damn good sport. If you saw her death scene in Caligula, you know what I'm talking about.
2. Malcolm McDowell chews up the scenery as much as John Travolta did in Battlefield Earth. Maybe even more.
3. Bob Guccione demonstrates the delicate subtlety of an asteroid falling out of the sky and hitting you right in the face.
4. John Gielgud's performance as Marcus Cocceius Nerva, although brief, gave Caligula an unexpected dose of gravitas and respectability.
5. Those of you who love quoting from that "honey badger" video on YouTube are going to have a field day with this movie.
6. Cringing during certain scenes is thoroughly understandable and may speak well for your humane character.
7. Tiberius' pleasure villas at Capri? Probably not that far removed from the historical record. The "street sweeper?" That's another story.
8. What was I thinking? Of course there was explicit sex in this movie - some of it just plain weird. And a very disturbing double-rape scene. Op. cit. #6.
9. A double feature of Spartacus and Caligula is best undertaken with strong beer.
10. If you have no desire to view explicit sex, playing Viva Caligula! online is a palatable substitute.
And there you have it. Is Caligula as bad as Battlefield Earth? Maybe not, but it's certainly more discombobulating. Definitely not a date flick. Don't say I didn't warn you.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)I didn't go, but I knew people in the Classics Department, which received a special invitation. Every single one of the Classics majors who saw the film thought it was a pile of crap. As one of them remarked, "This is the product of a bankrupt mind."
We later heard that Gore Vidal wanted his name removed from the script because of what Guccione had done with it.
AmyDeLune
(1,846 posts)Malcolm McDowell once said in an interview with Jon Stewart that Vidal left the production demanding that his name be removed from the script. McDowell said "Well that's just great! I can hardly have my name taken off the film can I?!?" McDowell was also not invited to the premiere because Guccione knew he would raise a stink over the added porn scenes (which he did).
I never have seen the film myself though...
UTUSN
(70,706 posts)derby378
(30,252 posts)Remember Robert DeNiro's line? "You insulted him a little bit." That meant someone was going to die horribly.
Aristus
(66,386 posts)(You don't have to look too far to find porn enthusiasts in the Army.)
Even after hearing about this movie for years, I was still appalled. Appalled at the shitty filmmaking, the shitty porn, and the shitty history; most of all, the 'street-sweeper'. What a mis-application of history that was...
derby378
(30,252 posts)...is that I saw Terry Jones' BBC program on the ancient inventions of the Roman Empire - one of their inventors came this close to constructing the world's first locomotive engine, with a view towards building railroad lines all across the empire to transport soldiers and raw materials as needed. Claudius took one look at the proof-of-concept diorama and advised the inventor to back off of the locomotive because it would immediately put all the slaves in Rome out of work - and the last thing he needed was another Spartacus right in the heart of Rome.
The street sweeper was a bit much, but when you consider where some of their research was headed...
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)scene. That honor belongs to "Caligula"
In fact, there is a lot of taking of breaths in the senate orgy scene
Also, you need a very large bed if you're going to sleep with your horse.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)fantastic series, and more accurate historically.
Baitball Blogger
(46,735 posts)He's just very pablum as a bad guy.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Since all of the really nasty sex was added into the movie after initial production.
You did not mention Peter O'Toole's diseased Tiberius. Perhaps that is for the best.
derby378
(30,252 posts)But I must say I enjoyed him a lot more as Mr. Johnston in The Last Emperor.