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Breaking Bad -- anyone see tonight's episode? (possible spoilers) (Original Post) fishwax Aug 2012 OP
Yes, I saw that coming when Lydia Incitatus Aug 2012 #1
A clear case of Chekhov's Motorbike -- I should have seen it coming, but the rest of the episode fishwax Aug 2012 #4
I didn't forget pokerfan Aug 2012 #14
Holy crap! Duer 157099 Aug 2012 #2
spoilers Duer 157099 Aug 2012 #3
Jesse is pissed, but I think Walt and Mike Incitatus Aug 2012 #8
He did it because he was following Walt's instructions Major Nikon Aug 2012 #15
Yes and it was thrilling. *spoilers* RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #5
Fantastic story telling pokerfan Aug 2012 #16
Yep, Hank will put 2 and 2 together... RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #17
That show never fails to shock the crap out of you at the end of each episode graywarrior Aug 2012 #6
Also, sound carries like crazy in the desert Duer 157099 Aug 2012 #7
I wondered the same thing about the generator noise. RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #10
Some nice symmetry to all this pokerfan Aug 2012 #19
In real life, engineers don't turn off the locomotive and it is loud as hell. JVS Aug 2012 #13
The Steelers beat the Eaglets tonights?? Other than that, I have no clue as to what you madinmaryland Aug 2012 #9
I'm just about to watch. pa28 Aug 2012 #11
I'm not reading this thread JonLP24 Aug 2012 #12
Brilliant Episode, Best Of The Season, So Far. (nt) Paladin Aug 2012 #18
You know one thing, a little thing, that continues to amuse me about this show? Duer 157099 Aug 2012 #20
To the best I can recall Jesse has only called Mr White something other than Mr White once Mike Daniels Aug 2012 #21
Best non-Mike line of the night Mike Daniels Aug 2012 #22
How did Hank not catch Walt bugging his office??? Initech Aug 2012 #23
Because he's Heisenberg pokerfan Aug 2012 #24
You did watch, right? Incitatus Aug 2012 #25
I did watch. Initech Aug 2012 #26
I think this episode may be where they jump the shark... harmonicon Aug 2012 #27
What happened at the end depressed me deutsey Aug 2012 #28

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
4. A clear case of Chekhov's Motorbike -- I should have seen it coming, but the rest of the episode
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:48 PM
Aug 2012

was so engrossing I forgot about the open.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
14. I didn't forget
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:29 AM
Aug 2012

but didn't think it would go down the way it did. I figured the kid would be shown watching them from a distance without being spotted. And, just like the girl that found the respirator in the desert way back in the first season, eventually it gets the attention of the cops/DEA.

Todd didn't have to do what he did. They could have easily spun a story that would fool a kid. Act official, spin some jargon, act nonchalant and the kid will forget about it.

On the plus side, at least they have access to an excavator. :/

That's me. Always looking on the bright side.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
3. spoilers
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:48 PM
Aug 2012

I don't see why Todd did that. So what? A kid sees some guys in the desert doing something, so what? There's no report of any theft or any hijackings or anything, why did he not just let it go?

Actually I was thinking it would be Todd left in the desert. And maybe now it will be.

That was intense. Can't imagine a more suspenseful scene, well except for the Giants game earlier today...

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
15. He did it because he was following Walt's instructions
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:58 AM
Aug 2012

Remember Walt told him that NOBODY can know what they are doing except the 3 of them.

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
5. Yes and it was thrilling. *spoilers*
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:50 PM
Aug 2012

"Dead Weight" <--LOVE the title of the episode foreshadowing the events to come.

The entire episode had so much tension. The train robbery had me on the edge of my seat. And I'm still trying to digest the ending. wow. Another dead kid. I knew something was going to go wrong and the cold open did give a clue but I did not expect that new character to be so cold blooded.

I also can't get over what a big risk Walt took bugging Hank's office. The crocodile tears con job Walt put on just continued the theme of making us dislike Walt more and more.

Excellent episode!

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
16. Fantastic story telling
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:43 PM
Aug 2012

Something always goes wrong with their capers and we're led to believe that it's the Good Samaritan who pushes the dump truck off the tracks. Just like when they almost got caught degaussing the evidence room with the giant electromagnet. So when they just barely pull it off, we think that it's over and we revel vicariously in their release of nervous energy. Then we see the kid on the motorcycle...

Hank will find out. It's just a matter of when. That they've been able to string that story along for five seasons without making Hank the dumbest cop in the world is a testament to the show's writing. But the story demands that we get this payoff at some point. The entire show has been building towards that confrontation. The thing is... what will Hank do about it? The show has already established that he would be in a lot of trouble for missing it for so long as the previous ASAC got canned for overlooking Gus for being right under his nose.

Spoiler from the preview for next week...








It looks like Sky and Marie have a talk with Sky saying that the kids aren't safe at home and Marie pressing her for the reasons why. That combined with Walter's performance in Hank's office (she doesn't love me, says I'm a bad parent/influence, whatever) and the next logical step is that Hank and Marie will compare notes and we all know that Marie can't keep anything confidential. They will know that something is seriously wrong in the White household.

I'm only guessing here but I think we're close to Hank finding out and it may happen in the next three episodes, just in time for the long hiatus. At the same time we're dealing with the fallout from Todd's murder of the child. Walt and Mike will shrug it off as "collateral damage" as they were prepared to kill the train crew in the first place. But Jesse won't be able to handle it. We know how he is when kids get involved... Tomás, Brock, Spooge and Skank's kid in Peekaboo, etc.

We're in for a wild ride, BrBa fans...

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
17. Yep, Hank will put 2 and 2 together...
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:51 PM
Aug 2012

...if he finds the bug in the picture frame because he caught Walt holding it. Big confrontation building there which should have a good pay-off.

Can't wait for that as well as the separation of Jesse from the group over the increasing ruthlessness of Walt and Mike. Jesse is becoming the primary protagonist in the show. I wonder if they'll flip that on us before it's all over.

What a wonderful show. So well done and makes me think every week what I'd do in that situation. It makes us confront the dark side of human nature in a way no other show has ever done. I just love it!

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
7. Also, sound carries like crazy in the desert
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:57 PM
Aug 2012

when they fired up that generator, how come the train guys didn't hear it? Or do we suppose that they tested all these things out beforehand? I suppose they would have.

And the pipe fittings all working, like that's realistic!

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
10. I wondered the same thing about the generator noise.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:35 AM
Aug 2012

But I'm willing to suspend disbelief a bit. It was under the bridge in a bit of a gully with hills around to buffer the noise.

It seemed to me they had all the technical specs for the train car and were very prepared. They even knew the right size bolts for the hatch on top. We didn't see them getting this info, but we all know how detail-oriented Walt is.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
19. Some nice symmetry to all this
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:59 PM
Aug 2012

The idling locomotive drowned out the noise of the generator and the generator drowned out the noise of the motorcycle.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
13. In real life, engineers don't turn off the locomotive and it is loud as hell.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 02:23 AM
Aug 2012

Between the noise of the diesels, the length of the train, and the similar sound of the generator I can buy it.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
9. The Steelers beat the Eaglets tonights?? Other than that, I have no clue as to what you
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:06 AM
Aug 2012

are referring to.



pa28

(6,145 posts)
11. I'm just about to watch.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 12:48 AM
Aug 2012

This season seems like an epilogue and you don't really have the intensity of previous years but this show deserves it.

Best TV series ever!

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
12. I'm not reading this thread
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 01:04 AM
Aug 2012

but I'm dying to see the season that is currently out.

Unlike sports I can't see on basic TV, I'm not aware of any Breaking Bad bars.

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
20. You know one thing, a little thing, that continues to amuse me about this show?
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:07 PM
Aug 2012

How Jesse still calls Walt "Mr. White."

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
21. To the best I can recall Jesse has only called Mr White something other than Mr White once
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:26 PM
Aug 2012

It occurred during a season 2 cook scene where Jesse bristled at the way he was behind talked down to and he gave Walter an ultimatum and closed off with something like "have I made myself clear Walt?"

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
22. Best non-Mike line of the night
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:34 PM
Aug 2012

Marie telling Hank that if Holly's first words were ASAC Schraeder (Hank had been doing "can you say?&quot that she was going to beat him to death with her shoe.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
25. You did watch, right?
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 11:50 PM
Aug 2012

He wasn't in the room and Walt holding the picture wassn't enough to cause suspicion

Initech

(100,097 posts)
26. I did watch.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:24 PM
Aug 2012

Although Walt has come close to getting caught so many times it's like you got to wonder what the final straw will be - I think that kid witness will ultimately come back to bite them in the ass.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
27. I think this episode may be where they jump the shark...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:55 PM
Aug 2012

or is it train? Was there a shark on the train? I didn't find it to be exciting. I thought it was silly.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
28. What happened at the end depressed me
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 03:19 PM
Aug 2012

It was a good episode, it just made me feel very sad...I think because I kind of identified the kid with my youngest son.

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