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Arthur_Frain

(1,873 posts)
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 01:16 PM Jan 2024

Levis button fly 501 circa 1980-2000 might be the single best value most durable item of clothing you could buy ever.

Incredible durability, heavy grade denim fabric, quality stitching that flexed, but held, designed to fit comfortably, not sag, not elastic.

Ran $22 if you bought them on sale, pay a little more and buy it from sporting goods stores and you could get off sizes like 33 waist that for me perfectly. Rotated through 3-4 pairs through the wash cycle, ended up having to replace worn jeans every 2-3 years.

These days? Paper thin denim that holes within six months. Horribly cheap stitching.

Wish I had a Time Machine. Just to go back and buy a few more pairs of jeans made with a quality I won’t see again in my lifetime.

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Levis button fly 501 circa 1980-2000 might be the single best value most durable item of clothing you could buy ever. (Original Post) Arthur_Frain Jan 2024 OP
Much of clothing is getting cheaper, they strip out costs to make more money bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #1
Sizes changed too in the last few decades. Arthur_Frain Jan 2024 #11
Yes and sizes vary between manufacturers /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #14
My favorite brand was Wrangler... MiHale Jan 2024 #2
Wrangler jeans seem to fit me better. Paladin Jan 2024 #6
Wrangler was what I went to after Levi's failed me. Arthur_Frain Jan 2024 #12
I love, love, love my Levi's fleece lined denim jacket from the same era. CrispyQ Jan 2024 #3
I've got an unlined one Arthur_Frain Jan 2024 #13
I still turn my jeans inside out when I wash them to retain the dark blue as long as I can. CrispyQ Jan 2024 #19
A few (like 30?) years ago Levi's had an ad campaign cyclonefence Jan 2024 #4
There's still high quality jeans, they're just a lot more expensive now. Elessar Zappa Jan 2024 #5
Agree. LL Bean jeans last forever, though they do fade and shrink spooky3 Jan 2024 #7
Yeah I walked into a Carharrt store shortly after they opened in SLC Arthur_Frain Jan 2024 #15
Good grief - there seems to be something fashionable about buying Backseat Driver Jan 2024 #8
They did that in my generation too. Arthur_Frain Jan 2024 #16
I used to patch jeans when holes appeared. pandr32 Jan 2024 #20
Here in So Cal Alsteen Jan 2024 #9
Priced a can of refried beans in SoCal Arthur_Frain Jan 2024 #18
You can still get super tough American made jeans for a reasonable price. Woodwizard Jan 2024 #10
There's a company I've stopped by since they opened up Arthur_Frain Jan 2024 #17
I don't know why, but my jeans always wear at the knees. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2024 #21
I'm wearing a pair of them right now. Mr.Bill Jan 2024 #22
My favorites were Seafarer, button fly bellbottoms. Chainfire Jan 2024 #23
I bought 501s for 6 bucks BOSSHOG Jan 2024 #24

bucolic_frolic

(43,688 posts)
1. Much of clothing is getting cheaper, they strip out costs to make more money
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 01:22 PM
Jan 2024

Brands, socks, shoes. Did you ever think you'd pay $65 to $125 for fabric athletic shoes that can't take the tough stuff? 1980s they were leather. Then thick vinyl. Now paper think vinyl of fabric. Arch support is gone too.

Yes, modern fabrics are thin. Plackets and shirt pockets dwindling. Thickness? Layer it on.

Somebody's making money.

Arthur_Frain

(1,873 posts)
11. Sizes changed too in the last few decades.
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:04 PM
Jan 2024

A 34 waist swims on me now. Everything has become “comfort fit”, and bags all over the place.

MiHale

(9,842 posts)
2. My favorite brand was Wrangler...
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 01:29 PM
Jan 2024

Bought approximately 15 pair about the same length of years ago about 15… still wearing them. Things were made better back then. Jeans were jeans not fashion pants. Store had a huge sale can’t even remember the name of the store think they were going out of business. My size 33-34 are usually some of the first gone, so I got as many as I could, never bought another pair since.



Paladin

(28,307 posts)
6. Wrangler jeans seem to fit me better.
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 01:44 PM
Jan 2024

Been a long time since I bought a new pair of jeans, however.

Arthur_Frain

(1,873 posts)
12. Wrangler was what I went to after Levi's failed me.
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:05 PM
Jan 2024

They had the off sizes too, and lasted just as long.

But all their displays in our department stores are shuttered. Everybody buying online these days.

CrispyQ

(36,646 posts)
3. I love, love, love my Levi's fleece lined denim jacket from the same era.
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 01:33 PM
Jan 2024

It's been washed many times & is still thick & warm. I wear a hoodie under it if I want to cover my head & make it really toasty. I bought it for myself one year after Christmas when I didn't get it under the tree.

Arthur_Frain

(1,873 posts)
13. I've got an unlined one
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:06 PM
Jan 2024

With a Taylor Guitars logo on the back from the 90s. Soft. Supple. Still durable.

CrispyQ

(36,646 posts)
19. I still turn my jeans inside out when I wash them to retain the dark blue as long as I can.
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:17 PM
Jan 2024

I know the younger gen likes the faded, ripped look but I like them dark & crisp. Once they get too faded they become project jeans & eventually cut-offs.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
4. A few (like 30?) years ago Levi's had an ad campaign
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 01:33 PM
Jan 2024

in which people with Levi's visited foreign countries and traded their jeans for cars.

My 13 year old son and I went on a trip to St. Petersburg Russia, and he packed all his jeans, sure he would come back with at least a Beetle. Well, that didn't happen, but boy were the tour guides happy with their tips! Four young women each with a pair of Levi's strutting around town, that's what we did with my son's Levi's.

The original Levi's had a rivet at each stress point--part of why they last so long--but after complaints from cowboys who were their original customers they removed the rivet in the crotch, where the seams all meet. The rivets got too hot when the cowboys squatted around a campfire.

Arthur_Frain

(1,873 posts)
15. Yeah I walked into a Carharrt store shortly after they opened in SLC
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:10 PM
Jan 2024

Don’t remember what year, but they had jeans (plain denim jeans) from $140-250. I couldn’t help but ask if they sold a lot of $250 jeans when somebody came to see if I needed help.

And I think the quality of carrharts has gone off too, sadly.

Backseat Driver

(4,418 posts)
8. Good grief - there seems to be something fashionable about buying
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 02:17 PM
Jan 2024

denim jean garments with holes already in the fabric and/or intermingled with stretchy synthetic threads - it's also no longer about durability but tightest cheap erotic fit. I think it started with softer fabrics and techniques for softening up stiff 100% cotton, i.e., stonewashed and/or double deeper dyes.

Arthur_Frain

(1,873 posts)
16. They did that in my generation too.
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:12 PM
Jan 2024

Saw some young lass walking down the street with more skin than denim exposed on her thigh.

In fairness, I spent hours getting the fray on my home cutoff 501s to just the trendiest length when I was a teen.

pandr32

(11,665 posts)
20. I used to patch jeans when holes appeared.
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:19 PM
Jan 2024

The patches became trendy and were faked by manufacturers.

Alsteen

(69 posts)
9. Here in So Cal
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 02:28 PM
Jan 2024

There is the Country Store across the street from the court house on Van Nuys Blvd and Jedlicas in Los Olivos. Be prepared for sticker shock for made in USA clothing.

Arthur_Frain

(1,873 posts)
18. Priced a can of refried beans in SoCal
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:16 PM
Jan 2024

I live in Alaska and the beans were three times as expensive for you guys, not like in the day when arrived back in ‘85.

Y’all are getting robbed down there.

Woodwizard

(858 posts)
10. You can still get super tough American made jeans for a reasonable price.
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 02:46 PM
Jan 2024

Wild Ass jeans sold at Bailys chainsaw supply are tough I have been wearing them for about 15 years they beat any other jeans I have had the, double panel ones you can slide knee cushions into.

Sometimes they have sales and you can pick up the doubles for low 30's and single panels for mid 20's. They take about 6 wash and wears to fully break in.

Great place for chainsaw parts too.

https://www.baileysonline.com/safety-ppe-clothing/clothing/work-pants.html

Arthur_Frain

(1,873 posts)
17. There's a company I've stopped by since they opened up
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 03:14 PM
Jan 2024

Great Northern I think? Disappointed because I couldn’t find my off size, and the preponderance of jeans are still cheap imported crap. So you have to search for the good stuff, and when I find it there’s never enough selection for my size to be there.

They stock a ton of 30/30. Or 30/38 sizes though..

OAITW r.2.0

(24,936 posts)
21. I don't know why, but my jeans always wear at the knees.
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 04:29 PM
Jan 2024

I now iron patches into the knees to retard the wear. And fits drive me nuts now. I'm 5-10 and weigh 165-170....same as 45 years ago, I used to wear jeans without a belt, now I use suspenders because I am constant hitching up my jeans, even when belted. One of life's mysteries.

Mr.Bill

(24,438 posts)
22. I'm wearing a pair of them right now.
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 04:51 PM
Jan 2024

They are over ten years old. I prefer black ones. They fade into a wonderful shade of gray, and look good at any stage of fading.

BOSSHOG

(37,235 posts)
24. I bought 501s for 6 bucks
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 09:41 PM
Jan 2024

From 70 to 72 making 1.60 an hour at Wal Mart. All us awesome chick magnets wore 501s.

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