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raccoon

(31,111 posts)
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 02:49 PM Oct 2012

Humor doesn't age well. How come?


Let me clarify: I'm not saying geezers and geezerettes don't have a sense of humor as well-honed as
they did in their 20's.

I mean, most of the time, when you read/watch something you thought was funny once--a movie, TV show,
etc.--most of the humor seems kind of...well, lame.

One thing, humor related to current events--current politics, news stories, etc., will seem much funnier at the time than when it becomes history.

Other things?






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Humor doesn't age well. How come? (Original Post) raccoon Oct 2012 OP
For another thing OriginalGeek Oct 2012 #1
Define geezerettes, please. In_The_Wind Oct 2012 #2
Women who would fall into the geezer category if they were men. nt raccoon Oct 2012 #12
old and cranky In_The_Wind Oct 2012 #15
It depends... cyberswede Oct 2012 #3
The Marx Brothers are still hilarious LiberalEsto Oct 2012 #19
"Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" is still funny, though somewhat dated.... lastlib Oct 2012 #38
Oh bullshit. Older humor is often the best. Watch this clip and I rest my case... HopeHoops Oct 2012 #4
Lucy pipi_k Oct 2012 #17
There were a lot of good ones, but the Harpo one is easily my favorite. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #20
She was a true pipi_k Oct 2012 #33
Grape-stomping was good, but the candy-wrapping line was better. "SPEED IT UP!" HopeHoops Oct 2012 #37
Sensibilities change, too. Many people rightfully cringe now when Ralph Kramden threatens Alice. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2012 #5
This is 80 years old. Still Funny CBGLuthier Oct 2012 #6
Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. progressoid Oct 2012 #7
Humor is always funny pipi_k Oct 2012 #8
Whenever I go back and read 1970s National Lampoons hifiguy Oct 2012 #9
It can age well, but humor is about relating Spike89 Oct 2012 #10
Well said! The Honeymooners was all about mocking the socially powerful. arcane1 Oct 2012 #27
I was always uncomfortable pipi_k Oct 2012 #35
Here is an old one -- you be the judge KurtNYC Oct 2012 #11
That man doesn't have the looks for TV, A Simple Game Oct 2012 #26
Gracie for President! struggle4progress Oct 2012 #13
Case in Point: Rowan and Martin's Laugh In Taverner Oct 2012 #14
3 Stooges, Chaplin, Laurel&Hardy, Mel Brooks, slapstick, vaudeville, word puns, Abbott&Costello, benld74 Oct 2012 #16
Laurel and Hardy crack me up. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #18
95% of that Bob Hope's classic comedy bits are now 100% unfunny, for instance Orrex Oct 2012 #21
I remember watching Hope in the 70s when I was a kid Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #39
Horrifyingly sexist in many cases, too Orrex Oct 2012 #41
Sometimes it does age well. surrealAmerican Oct 2012 #22
If it isn't/wasn't forced and obvious, it ages well. Populist_Prole Oct 2012 #23
Some humor pipi_k Oct 2012 #36
This one is still funny after all these years... madinmaryland Oct 2012 #24
You're right--it's rare that something is really funny past maybe 20-25 years. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #25
Excellent point. nt raccoon Oct 2012 #30
Phil Hartman and Dana Carvey 1980's..very funny and talented impersonators DianaForRussFeingold Oct 2012 #28
Aww, Phil Hartman was the best. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #40
I lauged at George Carlin in the 70s Duer 157099 Oct 2012 #29
I should have said, "Some humor doesn't age well." nt raccoon Oct 2012 #31
You had bad taste in your 20's and now it's caught up with you lame54 Oct 2012 #32
Here's a good take from SCTV on generational differences Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2012 #34

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
1. For another thing
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 02:51 PM
Oct 2012

you already know the punch-line.


That said, I've been re-watching Arrested Development on Netflix and laughing my ass off.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
3. It depends...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:05 PM
Oct 2012

"Andy Griffith" is still funny.
Early "M*A*S*H" is still funny.
"Welcome Back Kotter" is not funny.

My kids have been watching "The Dick Van Dyke Show" with me on Netflix - they love it (ages 12 and 10), even though the show is 50 years old.

Is it the quality of the writing? The timelessness of the humor (in the still-funny shows)?

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
19. The Marx Brothers are still hilarious
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:51 PM
Oct 2012

Charlie Chaplin is still funny
Laurel and Hardy are still funny
I Love Lucy is still funny

lastlib

(23,237 posts)
38. "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" is still funny, though somewhat dated....
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:53 AM
Oct 2012

"TunnelVision" is still funny.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
17. Lucy
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:05 PM
Oct 2012

Ricardo is my role model


Hubby calls me "Lucy", even though it's not my real name.

I love this episode.

Also, the one where Lucy is put on a budget and gives herself a home perm and makes her own dress. Funny every time I've seen it.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
20. There were a lot of good ones, but the Harpo one is easily my favorite.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 06:12 PM
Oct 2012

I especially like when he puffs out his cheeks and she comes out all teeth. They must have worked a LONG time to get the timing right for that skit.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
33. She was a true
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:56 AM
Oct 2012

Master (Mistress?) of comedy.

I liked that episode too...also from the series where they went to Hollywood, the one where she got into trouble trying to spy on William Holden and then Ricky brought Mr Holden to the hotel and Lucy disguised herself with a clay nose, which she ended up setting on fire from trying to light a cigarette.

The grape-stomping scene in Italy...

hahahahaah!!!I never get tired of watching I Love Lucy.



progressoid

(49,990 posts)
7. Sometimes yes. Sometimes no.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:41 PM
Oct 2012

I can still laugh watching The Philadelphia Story, Life of Brian, Blazing Saddles, or the Marx Bros. etc.

But some other period pieces just don't make it. Maybe that's because they just weren't that great to begin with.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
8. Humor is always funny
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:52 PM
Oct 2012

to me no matter how old it is.

My mind plays movie reruns of the humor with minor changes in scenery, etc., so sometimes the funny thing ends up getting even funnier as time goes on.

And sometimes because of the movies, something is so funny that I'm cracking up nearly choking on my own spit while people are sitting around saying, "Huh?"

My mind amuses me.



 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
9. Whenever I go back and read 1970s National Lampoons
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:52 PM
Oct 2012

I still laugh just as hard at the same jokes. The best Warner Brothers cartoons (from the 1940s and 1950s), Marx Brothers films (1930s), Three Stooges shorts (1930s-1950s) and Laurel & Hardy films (1920s-1940s) are just as funny now as they were the day they were filmed. To say nothing of Monty Python.

Topical humor ages, other types of humor not so much.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
10. It can age well, but humor is about relating
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 04:01 PM
Oct 2012

It isn't always enough to have universal topics for humor, you've also got to have empathy for the performers and a shared cultural base. As someone noted, the Honeymooners was a huge hit, but the catch phrase, "To the moon!" tied to the patently harmless "threat" to his wife Alice just confuses people today. It isn't because people thought wife beating was funny back then. Rather, the "joke" was that Alice was firmly in control and Jackie Gleason's character would never dare (or want to) hit her. It was pure, overstated bluster. Things have certainly changed since then in gender relations, but I think mostly in the trappings. In today's sitcoms, you're just as likely to find the female lead outsmarting the bumbling (but loveable) male lead to great comic effect--you'll just see the punchlines with less implied punch.

Some of Lucy's jokes are timeless (mostly her one-person bits, i.e., the booze/vitamin skit), but many others fall flat toaday (most of the Lucy/Ricky interactions). It isn't that husband/wife relationships aren't funny anymore, just that the framework and social cues we look for are "off" in those clips.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
27. Well said! The Honeymooners was all about mocking the socially powerful.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:43 PM
Oct 2012

Ralph was a buffoon, full of empty and impotent threats to his obsolete authority, and it was no secret- it was the joke! A perfect example of why humor is eternal when context is considered.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
35. I was always uncomfortable
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:33 AM
Oct 2012

watching the Honeymooners because domestic violence was a staple in my home back then.

Hits, slaps, flying dishes, flying food, threats, yelling...it was all there.

Even today, 50+ years later, and even though I know he never did it, I still cringe a bit inside when I hear Ralph say, "To the moon, Alice!!!"

For me, it was all too real.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
26. That man doesn't have the looks for TV,
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:43 PM
Oct 2012

he doesn't have the voice for singing, and his muscle motor functions seem to be cross-wired.

But I sure do love me some Joe Cocker. For everything he seems to lack, he makes up for it with his passion and intensity. I'm surprised he has a voice left.

I didn't go to Woodstock but I did wear out the album. This was one of my favorite songs from the album.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
16. 3 Stooges, Chaplin, Laurel&Hardy, Mel Brooks, slapstick, vaudeville, word puns, Abbott&Costello,
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:00 PM
Oct 2012

Red Skelton, Rowan and Martin, Smother Brothers, Johnnie Carson, I Love Lucy, Happy Days, Seinfeld, SNL(pick a year), etc

Perhaps some peoples' sense of humor doesn't age well. Or some people do not like some types of humor.

But from the first time a cave man farted, another caveman laughed!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,705 posts)
18. Laurel and Hardy crack me up.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 05:33 PM
Oct 2012

And I still can't hear Abbott & Costello's "Who's On First?" routine without losing it. Monty Python is still funny. So are Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd. If you can get past the language some of Shakespeare's stuff is also very funny. The Canterbury Tales are funny, too, but that's because farting was involved.

Orrex

(63,213 posts)
21. 95% of that Bob Hope's classic comedy bits are now 100% unfunny, for instance
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 07:05 PM
Oct 2012

And while we're bobbing along, is it possible to find Bob Newhart's "phone" bits even remotely amusing anymore?

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
39. I remember watching Hope in the 70s when I was a kid
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 11:10 AM
Oct 2012

and scratching my head that people were laughing. Some geezer awkwardly reads a lame joke off a cue card while holding a golf club and that's supposed to be hilarious? I never could stand to watch him.

Orrex

(63,213 posts)
41. Horrifyingly sexist in many cases, too
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 12:17 PM
Oct 2012

Granted, he was a comedian of a different time, but I can't stand him except in very small doses.

surrealAmerican

(11,361 posts)
22. Sometimes it does age well.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 07:15 PM
Oct 2012

Try reading Gulliver's Travels again. It never gets old!

Too much of the humor of the last 20 years or so has tryed so hard to be trendy that the topical references render it uninteresting now. This was not always the case. Just look farther back.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
23. If it isn't/wasn't forced and obvious, it ages well.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 07:36 PM
Oct 2012

Too many writers try too hard to get laughs on too many shitty sit-coms, but the humor is so lame it's an insult to a cretin.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
36. Some humor
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:58 AM
Oct 2012

is just not funny any time.

Like, as you mentioned, some of the shit-coms on TV.

For one thing, there always seems to be some undercurrent or suggestion of sex involved.

So many of our past comedians managed to do years of shows without even a hint of sexual innuendo and not only were they funny then, but they're still funny now. Like I Love Lucy. Often it was just the look on her face that was hilarious.

I always thought "Married With Children" was exceedingly crude and unfunny. Same old back joke all the time...horny wife, un-horny husband, blah blah blah.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
24. This one is still funny after all these years...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 07:47 PM
Oct 2012

Donald Rumsfeld is giving the president his daily briefing. He concludes by saying: "Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed."

"OH NO!" the President exclaims. "That's terrible!"

His staff sits stunned at this display of emotion, nervously watching as the President sits, head in hands.

Finally, the President looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?"



TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
25. You're right--it's rare that something is really funny past maybe 20-25 years.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:27 PM
Oct 2012

A generation--that seems to be the expiration date for most humor. A lot of humor involves edginess, pushing limits--and that is something that can't hold up over time.

DianaForRussFeingold

(2,552 posts)
28. Phil Hartman and Dana Carvey 1980's..very funny and talented impersonators
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:47 PM
Oct 2012

"politics as usual with the late great Phil Hartman doing one of his stellar impersonations of Ronald Reagan on snl."

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
29. I lauged at George Carlin in the 70s
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 12:21 AM
Oct 2012

and I find him just as funny today.

Depends on the humor and who is doing it.

Some sitcoms from the 70s are just stupid now.

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