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tandot

(6,671 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:09 AM Oct 2012

What DUer came up with the idea to put secretions of beavers' anal scent glands into food?

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Castoreum
Castoreum is one of the many nebulous "natural ingredients" used to flavor food. Though it isn't harmful, it is unsettling. Castoreum is a substance made from beavers' castor sacs, or anal scent glands. These glands produce potent secretions that help the animals mark their territory in the wild. In the food industry, however, 1,000 pounds of the unsavory ingredient are used annually to imbue foods--usually vanilla or raspberry flavored--with a distinctive, musky flavor.

You'll find it in: Potentially any food containing "natural ingredients"

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What DUer came up with the idea to put secretions of beavers' anal scent glands into food? (Original Post) tandot Oct 2012 OP
It's like I always say, shit is 100% natural too Major Nikon Oct 2012 #1
I wish it was one of those ingredients that had to be disclosed. Chan790 Oct 2012 #2
Yes, that is another problem. tandot Oct 2012 #7
How did someone find out that beaver anal sac secretions taste like TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #3
That was the first thing that came to my mind tandot Oct 2012 #5
OOooooh! I have a good idea! marzipanni Oct 2012 #4
MFM's fault. HopeHoops Oct 2012 #6
I suspected that it was MFM tandot Oct 2012 #10
Castoreum, meet cochineal KamaAina Oct 2012 #8
I have a beaver just for the fresh secretions. geardaddy Oct 2012 #9
 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
2. I wish it was one of those ingredients that had to be disclosed.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 01:25 AM
Oct 2012

It's one of those non-vegan ingredients that they like to hide the inclusion of, making it harder to insure a cruelty-free diet.

tandot

(6,671 posts)
7. Yes, that is another problem.
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:48 AM
Oct 2012

I buy a lot of organic or natural stuff and everything I looked at so far lists "natural flavor" in the ingredient list. How do they get the secretions? Are they keeping beavers in cages? Do they kill them? Disgusting

I hate what they allow corporations to do here. They literally put shit in their food and don't even have to list it. And the information they provide, is hard to read. Just look at the nutrition labels and ingredient lists. Companies are supposed to use a certain font and font size, with enough space between each letter that you can actually read it. If you look at any packaging, they are making it harder and harder by using smaller fonts and leaving so little space between letters that it is impossible to read without a magnifying glass. To top it off, they sometimes print it on a background color that not that much different to the font color and it makes it even harder to read.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
3. How did someone find out that beaver anal sac secretions taste like
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 01:26 AM
Oct 2012

vanilla or raspberry? How many other animals' anal sacs were sampled before beaver sacs were declared the winner? And why not just use vanilla or raspberry to make vanilla or raspberry flavor? I will gladly live without that extra musky tang.

tandot

(6,671 posts)
5. That was the first thing that came to my mind
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:36 AM
Oct 2012

Who the hell looked at a beaver (or any other animal) and thought "let's see how yummy secretions from their anal gland are" ...

marzipanni

(6,011 posts)
4. OOooooh! I have a good idea!
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 02:11 AM
Oct 2012


Let's dab a scent from whale barf?/poop? (ambergris) behind our ears, then have some desserts flavored with castoreum.
Yum.
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
8. Castoreum, meet cochineal
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 12:38 PM
Oct 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochineal

The insect produces carminic acid that deters predation by other insects. Carminic acid, typically 17–24% of dried insects' weight, can be extracted from the body and eggs then mixed with aluminum or calcium salts to make carmine dye (also known as cochineal). Carmine is today primarily used as a food colouring and for cosmetics.

The carmine dye was used in Central America in the 15th century for colouring fabrics and became an important export good during the colonial period. After synthetic pigments and dyes such as alizarin were invented in the late 19th century, natural-dye production gradually diminished. Health fears over artificial food additives, however, have renewed the popularity of cochineal dyes, and the increased demand has made cultivation of the insect profitable again, with Peru being the largest exporter. In Mexico, some towns in the state of Oaxaca are still working in hand-made textiles.


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