I'm just say'n.

The other prisoner guy? Not T-Dogg, right?

or he's dead

He just gets to pick his time and place. I hope he leaves on a high note.

They have a lot of explaining to do. Where did that herd come from?

Then tried to ambush them in the generator room.

re "first word"

I didn't see the other words.

Poor T Dog, getting it again.

But really, there's no realistic way to raise that baby, is there?

There was food, and cows for milk.

Not now.

What a rough way to have a baby.

Eventually.

He's one bad mofo

I would keep a eye on the baby.

Now they will have to find food for the baby, joy.

episode - I didn't even understand it for a while because I was young when I saw it - they were all on a bus and one woman's baby started to fuss - the enemy was very nearby - and she suffocated/smothered it to save everyone else.

Took me a long time to "get" what happened - I thought she just quieted her baby - and I don't know when I've been as devastated by something I saw on tv.

Wow.

I remember that one.

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Damn it, why change an already good and heartbreaking death scene!

Holy fuck!

What the heck happened?

And they come back as zombies when they die, even if they weren't bitten. Ergo...

then either passed out or died from shock. I don't think we can say on way or the other the only thing is either Carl killed his mom or he kept her from coming back (assuming he actually shot her in the head).

Because, if she died, she could have sent live Zombie virus to the baby.

who may just grow into the next dexter.

Damn.

poor T-Dogg has to go out in the same episode where Lori gives birth & dies.

surprised the other guy made it.

He will never be the same again.

I knew he still loved her.

And he never got to say goodbye.

I was hoping so badly that Rick would bust through that door just in time, with Herschel in tow.

And there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it.

allegedly did off camera, plus he invoked the memory of what Rick told him about Rick and Lori one day dying and having to do what needed to be done, to grow up.

He certainly isn't like many young kids his age in our world but how could he be growing up in that one seeing what he sees and doing what he does.

I think when/if he does this kind of thing w/o any struggle/remorse/emotion he'll be on the road to being a sociopath/ the Shane path of doing the math.

I fell asleep on the couch just as the episode was starting, and woke up to just in time for. . . Hooollllyyyy shit.

Or is she trying to find out more information about the governor.

her feminine allure to get into their heads.

Michonne is going to need her because, if you saw the Talking Dead, you know what has already become obvious. Michonne doesn't suffer fools.

Oh, and I think that T-Dogg's death is a sign that they wanted him out of the way to allow Merle a chance to reunite with the group. So, it is possible that Merle and Andrea may become an item.

He wanted to go and find his brother but the Governor said no.

I think Merle will go anyway.

Andrea likes the bad boys.

Being really close friends with the Governer would be great for her.

Michonne is so cool, yeah she suffers no fools.

She made it on her own before, she can do it again.

I quess he was the one who shot the deer in the beginning.

Then set off the alarm.

....the prisoner that Rick chased after and locked out in the yard in the second episode.

I thought there were only two prisoners left.

He knew his way around the prison.

I think Rick was wrong about the two prisoners.

They could be good guys.

Can't stand it!

What happened to Lori? Why did Carl have to kill her? Did the baby survive? What happened to T-Dogg at the end?

Gah!

Carl shot his Mother after she died so she couldn't turn.

I think T-Dogg held off the zombies after he was bitten for as long as he could.

He went out fighting.

I will miss T-Dogg.

Lori was having a breach birth, so she made Glen's girlfriend use Carl's big ass knife to C-section her and get the baby out, her reasoning being that "the group needs the baby" (WTF? They do????) and so she said goodbye to Carl and made the girl promise that she'd make sure Lori didn't zombify, but after Lori died from the massive knife wound to her belly, the girl chickened out and made Carl do the deed, which he did, with a bit too much stoicism.

TDogg sac'd himself for Sophia's mom, threw himself (after he had already been bitten) in front of a zombie hoard to allow her to get away.

There, all caught up!

that the pregnancy was a death sentence for her. So I guess those who thought she was a terrible mother owe her an apology.

Lori had to have a c-section. Maggie did it. Carl we assume shot her. Tdog sacrificed himself after bitten to save Sophie's mom. can't think of her name.

While running away from the zombie herd drawn from the surviving prisoner from a couple of episodes ago (the one that Rick locked outside with the zombies) she went into labor. The only ones with her were Maggie and Carl and she needed a C-Section because she was having complications. Not knowing what to do, Maggie agreed to simply cut the child out at the cost of Lori's life. Carl put his mom both out of her misery as well as prevented her from rising. The baby did survive.

As for T-Dogg, he was bitten in the initial attack and fled with Sophia's mother into the prison. In there, they were cornered by another small group of walkers and T-Dogg, knowing he was dying anyway, tackled the two zombies into the wall and held them while she escaped.

EDIT: Beaten to it. By a lot of people...

the little guy that Rick had locked in with a bunch of walkers seems to have survived - he lured the walkers in and they swarmed the group, and they all got split up. Hershel (who had just walked into the yard on crutches) and his other daughter were in one area, Carl, Lori and Maggie in one, with T-Dogg & Carol in another area, while Rick, Glen and Daryl were with the two other prisoners (the weasely white guy and the black guy named Oscar)

Oh, the guy seemed to have powered up the backup generator and set off the alarm to attract more walkers.

Unfortunately, T-Dog got bit.

Lori then went into labor, and Carl, Lori and Maggie got shut into a room by a horde of walkers. She couldn't deliver the baby, though, so told Maggie to cut her open to save the baby. Some touching moments between Carl & Lori happened, and Maggie cut her open and got the baby out. They then had Carl shoot his mother off camera.

Rick fought with the little guy(Andrew), but then Oscar got ahold of Rick's gun - and shot the little guy with it. He then gave the gun back to Rick. The group shut off the generator and then stumbled back into the yard to meet up with the rest of the group (they encountered T-Dogg's chewed up body, too, and carol's scarf, but not Carol, I think) The last scene is Maggie & Carl coming into the yard with the baby - and no Lori. It was a very powerful scene. I can't really do it justice.

Hershel's other daughter, though.

are you sure it was T-Dogg?

on Talking Dead afterwards, I think they implied that Carol's fate was unknown. I know they found her scarf, so I think they assume she is dead, too.

Apparently he had enough wherewithal to not only escape the walkers, but also 1) kill a deer and 2) find some diesel fuel which he hauled back, by hand, to the prison, JUST FOR REVENGE.

What a dope.

I'm going to miss him too.

Ouch!

(sorry, she just really annoyed me)

but I'm sure the baby's going to be the new "where's Carl?"



"Somebody quiet that baby"

"The baby needs food"

"The baby need diapers"

"I've got a baby to take care of"

"that baby's going to get us killed"

Ugh.

Glen Mazzara said he didn't want to deviate from the books more then he already had to. What they showed is not how Lori died in the books, but it fit the show better.

From an interview with the producer:

He did what he had to do.

They didn't need to meet a zombie Mom and wife.

Poor kid, he just grew up real fast.

He would need to in that world.

I don't know if Rick could have done it.

He lost his wife in a tough way, and now has a baby to look after.

Was is a boy or a girl, or did they say.

Did I miss it.

In the preview for next week's episode, Hershel says "she needs formula."

A new level of hell to deal with.

I am sure baby formula, clean water, and clean bottles are everywhere.

Even in a prison set up, this will be fun.

I heard the baby on the show was a six week old baby.

"Killer Within" -- I was thinking it was in reference to Andrew, the jerk prisoner within the prison.

But Lori also had a killer within!

zombie baby eats way out of Lori...