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Zorro

(15,743 posts)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:41 PM Nov 2012

Why do women portray Peter Pan in theater productions?

I know it's somewhat of a tradition (Mary Martin then, Cathy Rigby now).

Since an argument can be made that it creates a certain sexual ambiguity, why doesn't it bring out howls of protests from Republicans? After all, they went apeshit over a purse-carrying purple teletubby.

Just curious what DUers think.

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Why do women portray Peter Pan in theater productions? (Original Post) Zorro Nov 2012 OP
the pantomine dame has been around for ever, with guys playing the female parts loli phabay Nov 2012 #1
I think it may be frogmarch Nov 2012 #2
they don't want Peter's voice breaking in I'll Never Grow Up eShirl Nov 2012 #3
Honestly I thought it required some gymnastic skills undeterred Nov 2012 #4
If you haven't, listen to This American Life's Story re Peter Pan. Called "The Fiasco" nolabear Nov 2012 #5
I found part 3. Chan790 Nov 2012 #8
Because casting a boy who is on the cusp of puberty would be problematic if the production were... JVS Nov 2012 #6
All seven Lassies were male. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #7
That was just because the female collies ashling Nov 2012 #9
Actually it was because male collies are larger, but that was a funny response. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #15
Males have thicker, prettier coats n/t TexasBushwhacker Nov 2012 #14
And they're larger (main reason). Our border collie is fucking HUGE for a female. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #16
"What are you trying to say, Lassie?" merrily Nov 2012 #18
"I dunno George, it looks like a map to me. Whadda you think?" HopeHoops Nov 2012 #19
Probably because they need a smaller, lighter person The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #10
I really thought it had to do with the rigging for the flying harness. mykpart Nov 2012 #11
All the reasons that others have said... harmonicon Nov 2012 #12
I think it had to do with the "eternal youth" of Peter sakabatou Nov 2012 #13
The role calls for intense rehearsal, strong vocal performance, gymnastics... LeftinOH Nov 2012 #17
Jackie Chan Kaleva Nov 2012 #22
Peter Pan is supposed to be a young boy. merrily Nov 2012 #20
Peter Pan with the voice like that of James Earl Jones or Christopher Lee or Sean Connery? Kaleva Nov 2012 #21
 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
1. the pantomine dame has been around for ever, with guys playing the female parts
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:45 PM
Nov 2012

no idea why peter pan is a female unless its to do with the youthful thing.

frogmarch

(12,156 posts)
2. I think it may be
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:51 PM
Nov 2012

because most men, even small, lithe, youthful-looking men, have voices that would be too deep to be the voice of Peter Pan.

eShirl

(18,495 posts)
3. they don't want Peter's voice breaking in I'll Never Grow Up
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:22 PM
Nov 2012

assuming it's in production for a while

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
4. Honestly I thought it required some gymnastic skills
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:23 PM
Nov 2012

and a male with gymnastic skills is a whole lot bulkier than a female.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
5. If you haven't, listen to This American Life's Story re Peter Pan. Called "The Fiasco"
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:56 PM
Nov 2012

Ira Glass said it's the only time he's ever had to turn off his microphone because he was laughing so hard he was embarrassed. It's about a small town director who's version of Peter Pan goes terribly, terribly wrong.

I almost drove the car off the road the first time I listened to it.

Hey ! I found it! Treat yourself.



JVS

(61,935 posts)
6. Because casting a boy who is on the cusp of puberty would be problematic if the production were...
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:07 AM
Nov 2012

successful enough to go on for a significant time.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
9. That was just because the female collies
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:42 AM
Nov 2012

really didn't care if Timmy fell down the well. It was a feminist thing.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
15. Actually it was because male collies are larger, but that was a funny response.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:25 PM
Nov 2012

My middle daughter was in the room (holding a cat, of course) when I lost it. I explained the posts and she knew about Timmy. She found it equally funny.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
16. And they're larger (main reason). Our border collie is fucking HUGE for a female.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:28 PM
Nov 2012

She's larger than most males. Typically females only hit about 50 or so pounds. She clocked in at 77 at one point. We switched foods and she's back down in the 60's range (good weight for her), but she's just a beast for the breed. In sharp contrast, our sheltie was the runt and she's never been above 22 lbs. Sort of a Mutt and Jeff thing.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,761 posts)
10. Probably because they need a smaller, lighter person
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:44 AM
Nov 2012

who wouldn't break the wires in the "flying" scenes.

mykpart

(3,879 posts)
11. I really thought it had to do with the rigging for the flying harness.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:35 AM
Nov 2012

It's painful to males in places that females don't have.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
12. All the reasons that others have said...
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:42 AM
Nov 2012

but I think it's mostly for the voice, but size is a plus.

Sure, there might be guys who could do it, but you're going to have far more women than men to choose from if you're just looking for people of a smaller size with a voice in a certain register.

I had some friends who were in my college production of it... can't remember who played Peter though - or if they were male or female. I'm pretty sure I was too interested in a girl who was one of the lost boys to notice.

LeftinOH

(5,355 posts)
17. The role calls for intense rehearsal, strong vocal performance, gymnastics...
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:44 PM
Nov 2012

putting a real child through that is too much. Maybe a film version could do it, but not on the stage.

Kaleva

(36,315 posts)
22. Jackie Chan
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:13 PM
Nov 2012

He's small, has the phsical skills and his voice could be dubbed over with that of recordings of Mary Martin's when she played the role.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
20. Peter Pan is supposed to be a young boy.
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:52 PM
Nov 2012

It's easier to find a female with shoulders and height small enough to be a boy than it is to find a man. Also females voices do not change with puberty. And they don't get five o'clock shadow, though makeup could probably fix that.

You could put a boy in the role, but you would have to keep swapping him out with a new lead as he grew. And it is a pretty big role for a kid.

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