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Yavin4

(35,443 posts)
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:21 PM Dec 2012

As a member of the crew, would you rather have Kirk or Picard as your captain?

This is not about whether which show was better or which actor was better. This is a about the leadership skills of Kirk vs. Picard.

So, which captain would you rather serve under as a crew member?

For me, it's Picard, hands down. Kirk had self control issues, and I don't want to be in deep outer space with a horn dog at the helm.

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As a member of the crew, would you rather have Kirk or Picard as your captain? (Original Post) Yavin4 Dec 2012 OP
Picard. Aristus Dec 2012 #1
As long as I'm not a red shirt, it doesn't matter to me. Kaleva Dec 2012 #2
In TNG, red and gold switched sides. Kennah Dec 2012 #9
No question. Denninmi Dec 2012 #3
Denny Crain is just Kirk with a law degree! Bake Dec 2012 #49
Make it so. Engage! RedCloud Dec 2012 #4
Kirk SEMOVoter Dec 2012 #5
The Shat is The Shit. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #6
+1 astral Dec 2012 #16
Picard. But Kirk would be more fun to know. nt alphafemale Dec 2012 #7
picard fizzgig Dec 2012 #8
+1 Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #40
Picard. No question. Kennah Dec 2012 #10
Archer Rosco T. Dec 2012 #11
Kirk / Picard Yavin4 Dec 2012 #12
BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!! MiddleFingerMom Dec 2012 #13
You win the thread! <nt> caraher Dec 2012 #23
Oh myyyyyy hifiguy Dec 2012 #31
You ain't kidding! GoCubsGo Dec 2012 #34
I'm old. Really only know Kirk. Kali Dec 2012 #14
I'll stay home here on Earth, please. hunter Dec 2012 #15
No question... Piccard Xyzse Dec 2012 #17
"Uhura....open a hailing frequen......FIRE!!!..." rppper Dec 2012 #18
Pickard was too uptight and fastidious for my taste aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2012 #19
Sisko Tabasco_Dave Dec 2012 #20
Depends upon the mission sarge43 Dec 2012 #21
Picard nt avebury Dec 2012 #22
Neither, but Picard would be OK as my first officer av8rdave Dec 2012 #24
a lot depends upon one other factor. Is the alcohol still real? CBGLuthier Dec 2012 #25
However, Guinan does keep some real alcohol behind the bar sakabatou Dec 2012 #42
Given that Kirk had to have the "Teela Brown gene" intaglio Dec 2012 #26
Picard all the way. KamaAina Dec 2012 #27
Kirk HappyMe Dec 2012 #28
Picard. Not even close. hifiguy Dec 2012 #29
chewbacca datasuspect Dec 2012 #30
+1 geardaddy Dec 2012 #32
Picard / Riker was essentially a reversal of the Kirk / Spock roles.... Jade Fox Dec 2012 #33
Data? hamsterjill Dec 2012 #35
Holy hell... Wait Wut Dec 2012 #36
Captain Kathryn Janeway csziggy Dec 2012 #37
I didn't think about her.... AnneD Dec 2012 #45
Yeah, if you want to die in the void of space maybe. Bake Dec 2012 #50
She can swagger and she doesn't put up with bullies csziggy Dec 2012 #53
Kirk warrprayer Dec 2012 #38
I. Would. Like. James T. Kirk. He can. Sing. Songs. (nt) The Straight Story Dec 2012 #39
Picard can too sakabatou Dec 2012 #43
Picard sakabatou Dec 2012 #41
When I was young and impetuous .... AnneD Dec 2012 #44
TOS > TNG pokerfan Dec 2012 #46
Kirk backwoodsbob Dec 2012 #47
Kirk never had a holodeck Shrek Dec 2012 #48
But what if you could have Kirk AND a holodeck? Bake Dec 2012 #51
No question. Kirk. Bake Dec 2012 #52
I think the number of young, green Yvonne Craigs in the universe hifiguy Dec 2012 #54

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
3. No question.
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:28 PM
Dec 2012

Jean Luc Picard, smart, sensitive, compassionate. Kirk, well, an idiot with power. Might be interesting to see how Denny Crane would run a starship, probably like he ran a law firm, with hookers, booze, and a penchant to shoot first and ask questions later.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
49. Denny Crain is just Kirk with a law degree!
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:08 PM
Dec 2012

Otherwise they're the same character. I never thought about that until now.



Bake

SEMOVoter

(202 posts)
5. Kirk
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:31 PM
Dec 2012

I think Kirk was far less rigid to code and respected, valued the individual's contribution. Building teams is hard. Codes of conduct are just crutches.

just an opinion, don't beat me!

Kennah

(14,277 posts)
10. Picard. No question.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:38 AM
Dec 2012

If we were zipping around space, we'd want a first rate diplomat in command, not a frat boy.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
14. I'm old. Really only know Kirk.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:13 AM
Dec 2012

(haven't watched teevee in years, hell going on multiple decades now) Loved the old show back in the day though. Watched reruns all growing up. I think I saw all but the last 2 (?) movies.

hunter

(38,321 posts)
15. I'll stay home here on Earth, please.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:27 AM
Dec 2012

You folks enjoy yourselves, and thanks again for keeping the Borg out of my garden.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
17. No question... Piccard
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:12 AM
Dec 2012

Much better survivability rating of an away team.

I don't mind a horn dog at the helm, I just think Piccard would not take as much dumb risks.

rppper

(2,952 posts)
18. "Uhura....open a hailing frequen......FIRE!!!..."
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:55 AM
Dec 2012

If I was a single star fleet guy, Kirk for sure...any other situation, I go with the bald French guy....

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
19. Pickard was too uptight and fastidious for my taste
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:08 AM
Dec 2012

compared to Kirk, who was a swashbuckling hero who knew no fear and had the ability to improvise. Although I liked both, Kirk would be my choice, especially if one day the entire crew decided to go rogue and become pirates.

Tabasco_Dave

(1,259 posts)
20. Sisko
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:11 AM
Dec 2012

kirk made his own rules which not always good in a military situation. Picard was more of a diplomat than a captain. Sisko was more military he obeyed orders yet he knew how to bend the rules a little bit for the sake of the mission.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
21. Depends upon the mission
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:22 AM
Dec 2012

First contact, negotiation: Picard

Going rounds with the Klingons: Kirk

Both are good at either job, but sometimes cool is called for, sometimes the crazy.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
25. a lot depends upon one other factor. Is the alcohol still real?
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:58 AM
Dec 2012

I would prefer Picard but I hate the Next Gen concept of drinking synthetic alcohol that does not get you inebriated.

I would prefer the more exciting dynamic universe of Kirk's days but that man was a bit of a loose cannon.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
26. Given that Kirk had to have the "Teela Brown gene"
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:09 AM
Dec 2012

ie was luckier, then it would have to be Kirk.

But nearer to real world - Piccard

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
27. Picard all the way.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:27 PM
Dec 2012

Higher crew life expectancy, for one thing. Also, no rug.

This was the issue that kept TNG from catching on for a while. Hard-core Trekkers couldn't deal at first with anyone but James Tiberius Kirk as "their" captain. Srsly.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
29. Picard. Not even close.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:48 PM
Dec 2012

Picard is a master diplomat as well as being an immensely skilled warrior. Picard never loses his cool or puts the lives of his crew at unnecessary risk to satisfy his own ego.

Jean-Luc Picard is the epitome of what a Starfleet officer should be and his second-in-command is very nearly his equal.

Jade Fox

(10,030 posts)
33. Picard / Riker was essentially a reversal of the Kirk / Spock roles....
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:34 PM
Dec 2012

We always knew we'd be better off with the cool-headed alien in charge, rather than the hot-headed American stud.

Not an original thought, but worth repeating, I think.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
36. Holy hell...
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:00 PM
Dec 2012

...Picard!!! He makes this oldish lady blush!

Seriously...that voice, that gentle smile, those shoulders...damn.

Kirk is all

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
44. When I was young and impetuous ....
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:17 PM
Dec 2012

I thought Kirk was great. But now that I am older, I think I might stand a better chance of getting back home with Picard at the helm.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
52. No question. Kirk.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:13 PM
Dec 2012

Because you know wherever Kirk goes, there's going to be some fine-looking alien females around! They may be GREEN, okay, but still fine!



Bake

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
54. I think the number of young, green Yvonne Craigs in the universe
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:40 PM
Dec 2012

is probably very small. BTW, she also was Batgirl. One of the great 1960s hotties.

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