I was wondering what you had decided!

I had a similar situation happen years and years ago and went the opposite direction. It turned out to be a horrible mistake, but eventually led me to another company that I loved dearly.

Glad to hear you've all made the right decision!

I really thought this was what was going to happen!

It's a win-win!

Congratulations and have a great dinner out with Jen!

Have a good time celebrating!!!

How's that for self-actualizing? Well done, Tobin!

GOOD drivers are rarer than smart Republicans, and when an employer finds one, is smart to do what they can to retain them.


Nice job. Sometimes the planets are all in proper alignment.

Stay safe.

One of the few "happy" workplace stories I've heard in quite a while.

Congratulations on your raise and bonus.

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You should always play hardball when it comes to your wages...always.

but it ended up being a good thing. I got a job offer for a really great job, making way more than I was, for a company I liked a lot more, and while I was thinking over the offer, I had my review. At this company, the reviews were essentially "These are the ways in which you've failed the company in the last year, so this is why we're going to give you a tiny raise". So I went to the review, got zero increase in pay, went back to my desk, and put in my notice to quit and accepted the other offer.
I was wondering if they'd try to make me stay, but they basically said "Ok, well tomorrow you'll start training your replacement then". Then, when I went to discuss sending my last paycheck to my new address, the office manager looked at me strangely and basically said "Well, according to this, you owe us $600 for vacation time you took this year but haven't earned yet", which I responded to by saying that if I don't get a last paycheck, I don't work here anymore, and good luck trying to get any money out of me. Eventually she relented and decided to pay me my last check in full.

Needless to say, my last day on the job at that place was pure bliss (actually the last 2 weeks were). I was so glad to be out of that company, where I didn't feel valued the least bit, even though I built their entire IT infrastructure myself and kept everything running for 7 years. It was kind of shocking how little value they put in me.

I think something karmic happened though, because the weekend after my last day, a big storm rolled through while I was vacationing out of cellphone range and lightning struck the building, traveled down the coax from the directv dish on the roof, and into the server room (a setup I had said was a bad idea), where it fried all the network switches, the email server, and the file server.

I didn't volunteer to help them recover, maybe that was a bad call, but you reap what you sow, right?

Great story

you never did anything right, you deserve no raise, you are a failure. Makes you all warm and fuzzy inside.

I think it is hilarious that lightning struck right after you left. And really, why would you volunteer to help??????

Of course, it is usually because their managers suck as well. Right on up to ownership.

Lots of research out there on what motivates people. You can only motivate through fear for so long before failure. But most ten-year-olds understand that.

instead of as human beings.

is one of the two owners. Like many bosses, he is not a trained manager. The "motivate through fear for so long before failure" is an understatement for these two. Their "management style" was instilling fear and mistrust of coworkers. Well, in the past year, the office environment has been so toxic that they are now asking how they can get people to work together instead of always fighting each other. Good luck with that. They have always fostered nastiness, telling each employee that the other employees are always bitching about them. So all of us things everyone else thinks we are incompetent, hateful, and can't stand the others.

They are reaping what they sowed, and they are not happy with the harvest.

That's great news. Enjoy your celebration!

I think you handled the whole deal very well. Congratulations on a successful resolution!

It's so nice to hear good news like this. Congratulations on your success!

It's nice to be appreciated and compensated. Have a great night!

nice to hear good news!!!

I love it when the good people win!

You just milk the system for what you can get. The poor owner of the business will probably have to cut one golf game out of his schedule each week thanks to your greed. Or his wife cannot have 2 facials a week, only one.

when you ask for a raise. Glad that they appreciate you.

This would have been much harder if you didn't have a fall-back position. Wonderful.

Enjoy your celebration.

I have noticed on more than a couple occasions where bosses said more compensation wasn't possible, until that employee gave notice. That happened to me years ago, but I was tired of the place and left anyway. It's good things worked out and you're happy with your new situation.

I am so happy to hear this news. Glad that your boss knows what a good person he has working for him.

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I'm sure they appreciated your honesty. And even without the extra bonus money, your tenure, seniority and good relationships will more than make up for that "just shy!"

I know of a legal secretary who put out her resume when her boss, the owner of the firm, passed away. She got a offer in which she'd be earning 30 per cent more as an office manager (including supervising the other secretaries), and be trained as a paralegal.

She turned in her resignation not expecting a counteroffer because the other job was such a step up even if they were willing to match the salary. But to make a long story short, she's still working at the firm to this day -- first as an office manager and supervisor, and now as a full-time paralegal!

Congrats -- and don't have any traffic accidents!


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good for you man!

have to fake it.

Huge Congrats!

Everyone wants to be Chief but nobody wants to be Brave....

And the Brave was a well respected member of the Tribe.

Cheers!

It's nice to be wanted! Best to you!

It's nice to hear, I only wonder why they didn't pay you that without you having to demand it.

Of your current counteroffer?

I was expecting a promotion, but that's pretty much the same thing.

Nobody gets a raise these days without either asking for it or having an angle. My wife had a similar situation this year and her hard ball paid off as well.

Kickin!

Every paycheck will be a celebration of your worth and ability.

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Your old posts about beer always made me thirsty... and it's not gonna go away all by itself!!!
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But I'll tell you what, if we ever meet in person I'm buying dinner and drinks.

MERRY CHRISTMAS

I appreciate all of the kind words and all of the greatest votes. It's not often that a lounge thread hits the front page.

If you're good at what you do, and conscientious about your work ethic, and someone else is offering you more, chances are, it's because you're worth it.

My daughter is getting the same kind of solicitation. She graduated magna from law school, but not from Harvard or Yale, so firms weren't lining up to make her offers when she graduated. Now, as she has proven herself as an effective and tireless worker at her German posting with w British law firm, (she is dual national and trilingual), suddenly head hunters from other firms are bombarding her with big cash offers. She just went to her management and said, "look, what are we going to do about this?" What they did about it was offer her more money and a fast track to partnership.

If you know you're worth more, and other employers agree, chances are your employer will, too, if presented with tha circumstances. Just put it on the table in front of them. Like you said, play hardball. Sometimes you win.

Congratulations!

Yes, we need to hear stories like yours. Bad news sells for some ungodly reason, as it keeps us all depressed and scared.
Good news doesn't sell news, but it sure does lift our spirits and reminds us that all is not lost. It makes us happy.
Now, you two love birds go out and paint the town red. And know that all of us here at DU are right there with you. Cheers!

It sounds really positive. I was a little worried about you taking a new job. My husband once referred to the devil you don't know. And since you like the people you work with, it can mean a lot.

It's nice to have a job offer in your pocket when you negotiate with your current employer.

I hope you had a nice celebration.

good job, driver.

to steal your pension, cut your pay in half and tell you your lucky to have a job.
Seems like you work for a good company, which is rare these days.

This is not easy--asking for more money. However, you are worth it!! You advocated for yourself and
you got what you deserved.

That's really inspiring and should be a lesson for us all.

It's not enough to ask--you have to be your own advocate and stick up for yourself.

My husband is going through the same thing. He was laid off a month ago, and now he's applying for jobs. He has a hard time even asking for what he's worth and negotiating. It's tough when you're worried and just want to find a job. However, I think it's so important to put a price on yourself, and pretty much demand that they pay. We are not slaves to these corporations. We have to advocate for ourselves and get what is fair. Otherwise, we get the short end of the stick--and corporations are more than happy to pay as little as they possibly can.

I hope you had a terrific celebration. You've earned it. I hope the raise and increase fundage gives you some peace of mind!

...and much success to you and your family. Happy Holidays!!!