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Orrex

(63,216 posts)
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:31 AM Dec 2012

How old were you when you lost your innocence?

I'm not talking about virginity, though I suppose that the same answer might apply in both cases.

Rather, I'm asking how old you were when the eyes of your childhood were opened, and you got a glimpse of the larger, darker world? No need to reveal the cause unless you want to.

In my case, I'd say that I was lucky to have lasted until the relatively late age of 12, when my parents started an ugly divorce. This was in the early 80s, when children were treated as trophies and hostages in divorce.


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How old were you when you lost your innocence? (Original Post) Orrex Dec 2012 OP
about 4 years old datasuspect Dec 2012 #1
Yeah, that's a rough one Orrex Dec 2012 #4
I was sexually molested when I was six lunatica Dec 2012 #2
Shit. Orrex Dec 2012 #5
OMG! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #29
About four when I realized my parents were nuts. Scuba Dec 2012 #3
Likewise a hard realization to have! Orrex Dec 2012 #6
My father was a total pervert. I knew it at five. Denninmi Dec 2012 #7
I was five lexx21 Dec 2012 #8
I can think of 2 instances... pink-o Dec 2012 #9
age 12 - couple pretty bad things happened rurallib Dec 2012 #10
I am so sorry, my dear rurallib... CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #15
I can't say pipi_k Dec 2012 #11
I don't think I was ever innocent. hunter Dec 2012 #12
9 In_The_Wind Dec 2012 #13
About 10. nt LWolf Dec 2012 #14
About 10 when I knew the world was not always a pleasent place to be. BlueJazz Dec 2012 #16
I was 8 when my father hit my mother in front of me. Tobin S. Dec 2012 #17
About 6 though not as traumatically as many here csziggy Dec 2012 #18
I was 7. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #19
I was 6. TuxedoKat Dec 2012 #21
It's very hard on mothers to lose a child. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #23
That's terrible. blueamy66 Dec 2012 #35
Haven't gotten there yet Major Nikon Dec 2012 #20
age 3 Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #22
It was a slow process. I would say it started when I was 40, and the process Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #24
going through checkpoints manned by the occupation troops in my home town hobbit709 Dec 2012 #25
5 when I was abducted and molested. glinda Dec 2012 #26
The day RFK was assasinated. kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #27
Seeing news of the Bosnian war on TV Odin2005 Dec 2012 #28
around 10 or 12 fizzgig Dec 2012 #30
8 yrs old Broken_Hero Dec 2012 #31
Damn. I'd say that about 24 of you have more dire tales than mine. Orrex Dec 2012 #32
Age 11; September 11, 2001 EastTennesseeDem Dec 2012 #33
When I was 5 and we were living in Hawaii blueamy66 Dec 2012 #34
probably around 11 or 12 MissMillie Dec 2012 #36
I was four Hayabusa Dec 2012 #37
I was 12 clyrc Dec 2012 #38
I don't think I ever had it. MadrasT Dec 2012 #39

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
6. Likewise a hard realization to have!
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:51 AM
Dec 2012

I suppose there's something to be said for "the sooner the better," but too soon is too soon.

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
7. My father was a total pervert. I knew it at five.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:31 AM
Dec 2012

Nice way for a five year old boy to wake up for his first day of kindergarten and see dear old Dad sitting at the dining room table in a white v-neck t-shirt with a padded bra underneath that made Dolly Parton look small.

Yup, real nice. Too bad I can't dig him up and sue him for the cost of my therapist.

lexx21

(321 posts)
8. I was five
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:38 AM
Dec 2012

I have a health condition for which life-saving surgery was required. I was aware that 1) I could die during the procedure 2) without it I would not live much past about 10 or 12.

Facing your own mortality at that age makes you a much different person than you otherwise would have been.

edit: I'm supernova. Forgot I was writing under lexx21's account.

pink-o

(4,056 posts)
9. I can think of 2 instances...
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:39 AM
Dec 2012

At 7 when I first felt anxiety after being approached by an African American child. (Up to that point, I played with anyone and had no consciousness of racial differences)

And again at 12, when I learned exactly the nature of the Vietnam war.

Today is my 58th birthday, so that all happened a loooong time ago! I'd like to think that innocence lost means compassion and empathy gained. I wouldn't trade a minute of my life, my hard-learned years, to go back to the days of innocence. However painful the truth may be, it's always better to know.

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
10. age 12 - couple pretty bad things happened
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:46 AM
Dec 2012

I was staying at a friend's house and his dad was murdered by an escaping thief at a restaurant.
Then a few weeks later, I was molested by a priest. The worst part was that he became my stalker for a year.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,640 posts)
15. I am so sorry, my dear rurallib...
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:27 PM
Dec 2012

I wish, however foolishly, that I could erase those incidents out of your life.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
11. I can't say
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:41 PM
Dec 2012

for sure that there was just one age when it happened.

It seems to have been a gradual thing, maybe starting from the age of 9 or 10 (?), when my parents' fighting became more frequent and violent.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
12. I don't think I was ever innocent.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:08 PM
Dec 2012

Somebody found a box of dusty old Pleistocene souls in their attic and decided to recycle them.

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
17. I was 8 when my father hit my mother in front of me.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:31 PM
Dec 2012

They fought verbally before that, but I don't think anything fundamental in me changed until I saw the violence.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
18. About 6 though not as traumatically as many here
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:44 PM
Dec 2012

I had saved and saved, hoping to buy a pony. When Dad explained I'd need a place to keep a pony, I figured out how much it would cost to fence in the two empty lots behind out house.

Then Dad explained "attractive nuisance" and "liability" and how if some other kid climbed the fence, rode my pony, got hurt, and their parents sued my parents we could lose our home.

I've been a pessimist ever since.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
19. I was 7.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:18 PM
Dec 2012

My brother was killed in a hunting accident. My mother was devastated and never recovered. She was killed by a drunk driver almost exactly a year later.

Innocence gone.

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
21. I was 6.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:25 PM
Dec 2012

It was the year JFK was assassinated. My dad and I saw Oswald murdered live on tv, then early the next month my brother (5) was killed in an accident and some other relatives were also killed that same month in a car accident. So sorry about your brother and your mom. My mom is still with us but in some ways she never recovered after losing my brother.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
23. It's very hard on mothers to lose a child.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:17 PM
Dec 2012

At least these days there's grief counseling available. At the time of the deaths in my family, we all just had to tough it out. That's what farm folk did.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
20. Haven't gotten there yet
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:22 PM
Dec 2012

I try to see the world through the eyes of my childhood as much as possible. That's not to say I don't think about the bad stuff, but I spend a lot more time thinking about the good. I enjoy life in general and try to have a good time wherever I am as much as possible.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
22. age 3
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:31 PM
Dec 2012
It is amazing that bad things can be remembered for the rest of your life from so young, but they can.
It is what has made me what I am today. What I went through is why I am liberal. I saw what the Conservative movement can do to hurt people, and hurt them bad.
It is what amazes me why my father is still with that movement. My mother was not due to it, I refused to go along with it. But he keeps yelling from the rafters that they are the only hope for America. I don't understand.

Baitball Blogger

(46,736 posts)
24. It was a slow process. I would say it started when I was 40, and the process
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:38 PM
Dec 2012

was complete by the time I turned 54.

I was only skeptical before.

kurtzapril4

(1,353 posts)
27. The day RFK was assasinated.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:29 PM
Dec 2012

I was 9. I fought my brothers and sister for the newspaper every day when my dad got home from work. June 6, 1968 was the day I became a cynic.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
30. around 10 or 12
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:39 PM
Dec 2012

it was when i was old enough to realize why there was dirt left over when we dug a grave for one of our pets

Broken_Hero

(59,305 posts)
31. 8 yrs old
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:54 PM
Dec 2012

physical abuse from my mother started at the age, ended when I was 14, seemed like an eternity.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
32. Damn. I'd say that about 24 of you have more dire tales than mine.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:42 AM
Dec 2012

Thank you for some quite helpful perspective, and thank you for sharing.

EastTennesseeDem

(2,675 posts)
33. Age 11; September 11, 2001
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:48 AM
Dec 2012

I didn't really get that anyone actually hated us until then. I feel like that is something that a lot of people tend to really just come to realize gradually. Not me.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
34. When I was 5 and we were living in Hawaii
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 09:40 AM
Dec 2012

My parents put my bro and I to bed on Christmas Eve and then went next door to a party. Unfortunately, I woke up to find them missing. I sat in the hallway and cried until they came home (which I didn't think would happen). I don't think that I was ever the same.

I guess in the early 70s, the islands were considered safe enough to do this....

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
37. I was four
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:59 PM
Dec 2012

when my dad locked me in my room at his house. My mother and him were divorced at the time, but I really wasn't privy to the infidelity that had been going on at the time, since I was only two. But I was there and I remember getting up and trying to use the bathroom and finding the door locked. I cried the rest of the night and he brought me home earlier than he usually did the next morning, complaining about my whining. I told my mom and she immediately tried to call him once he would have gotten home. Predictably, he never answered and I've never seen him since. Good.

clyrc

(2,299 posts)
38. I was 12
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:06 PM
Dec 2012

I've told the story several times, but I eventually realized that people don't believe me so I stopped. It was a bizarre situation, and it was my first experience with depression.

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