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I've been reading these books for about 18 years, but the weight of how long it has taken to get this saga finished hasn't evaded me. Here we are on the cusp of A Memory of Light, and God help us if it is as bad as Path of Thorns, which was a disgrace, likely due to RJ's health conditions.
I can't really discuss the things I think without creating spoilers, because 90% of the cool parts of the books are a mystery novel to discover who is what. I will say that there are liberal clues, but when they are shockingly offered, it is quite satisfying to realize that you were both right and wrong.
A Memory of Light comes out on January 8. You can find the prologue on the TOR site, like always. It's a tease from hell.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I've been reading these books since mid-90s.
I have to re-buy most of them.
I am just glad someone stepped up to write the end.
I read the first 5 in a row and then eagerly awaited Lord of Chaos in hardback. Just an amazing ability for world creation, a compelling idea, and research blended with believability out of the ass.
RIP Robert Jordan, and thank goodness your work is being finished.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Which is to say that something perfectly open to interpretation reveals so much more of the interpretor than it does of the thing being interpreted.
Where some see death and annihilation, I see a new era breaking.
I welcome the new beginning!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Sweetheart.
Please, honey, get it together. Your friends love you, but you seem like you are kind of deteriorating, and none of us want that for you.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Lounge and all.
Aristus
(66,446 posts)(and dreaded) customer inquiries was: "When is the new Wheel Of Time book going to be out?"
I heard that question hundreds of times.
Sometimes, customers got angry with me, as if I were author, publisher, distributor, and retailer all in one...
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)He would come out with one every few years, even when his health was deteriorating.
He never had more than a 2 year span without one of his series coming out, while even putting out some books like the Fallon Blood series, and his other Conan novels.
This is impressive considering GRR Martin who would have a time span of 3-6 years from one book to another, which is ridiculous... and his afterword in A Feast of Crows made me almost throw that book halfway across the street.
Though yeah, I can only imagine. Some people get passionate about getting the new books.
I fortunately don't get that way in getting angry with those that help me in book stores. I miss my Borders girls... I mean, the Borders Staff.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)and found a way to finish them all. Amazing man. Indeed he did continue writing until the nails were put in his coffin, and in his case, beyond, because it mattered to him to finish.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I've read the Reagan O'Neil books of his and the Conan series.
I am really impressed by Mr. Jordan. I am actually pretty happy his estate picked Brandon Sanderson, even if I don't particularly agree with his politics, I can see where he is coming from, and he seems to have humility enough to accept that he doesn't know everything.
Aristus
(66,446 posts)Cool guy. Loved books.
A pretty girl would have been nice to have as my "I found this for you; you'll love it!" bookseller.
But I was happy to have this guy. He loved his job.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I had three different girls giving me book advice.
when is the new Robert Asprin book coming out? He promised it'd be this year. I can't remember which one of his books it was where he just kinda wandered off for like four years between books, but I remember a friend being driven absolutely crazy by people demanding the next book in the Myth series.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)But I never got into Robert Asprin. I know he did the "Myth" series, but that never was one I liked or read beyond the titles.
You might make a new thread, though. Maybe someone else knows.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)if you worked at a book store. Many angry Myth/Phule fans whenever he took an unannounced break.
He died around 2008, I think it was.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Given the Prologue...
Mazram Taim. I think Jordan lied. He is Demandred.
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)Taim is promoted in the prologue to Chosen/Forsaken. Demandred is at the gathering of the remaining Forsaken where Moridin tells the others Taim is now one of the Chosen.
Scruffy Rumbler
(961 posts)I was in Goodwill looking for something to read. I saw the book called "Eye of the World" and liking SciFi/Fantasy, I picked it up...Part way through, I realized the story was not going to resolve itself by the end of the book. So I went looking for the second book....found the 6th. 6TH!?!" What the hell?" I thought. I did a little investigating and discovered ten books to the series. Yay! This would keep me busy for awhile. I get to the end of the 10th book... and damn. Not only had the story not ended... but I discovered the author had died. NOOOOOOO!!!
This has definitely been a series that keeps on giving! I was fortunate enough not to have 23 years of suspence... only about 5 or so. The next decision is how far back into the series do I go to reread and get the flow going for the las t book?
And just a side note for any DUers that like libraries, the last book that came out I read after moving back to my hometown after 25 years away and checked it out of our small town library where I had my first library card. Love that place and the ladies that work there!
I'll have to go and reserve "A Memory of Light"! Thanks for the heads up!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Because it is a masterpiece. You miss a lot the first read through. I used to re-read every time a new one came out to steep myself in the rich, well-detailed world. I'm on my 13th time.
. That's pretty much where I am. This series impacted me so deeply, and many of my friends that also read it. It isn't Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones exists because of Wheel of Time exists, as does the entire Sword of Truth series, which I also adore.
Robert Jordan brought depth and breathed life into not only people and places, but he gave life in his art that many could follow and understand. But few could do as well as he did. He captured people, places and things in a way that every author wants to do, but never achieves the way he could, regardless of the genre. His just happened to be fantasy.
Wheel of Time might be his final chapter, but his legacy is a message to those who come after him and would take up a pen. It is infused with the message of "finish, no matter how difficult" and "start as you want to continue, and then continue."
And I forgot to mention, something his books have always conveyed - be a producer. Produce whatever it is that is the best of you, and do what you have to do otherwise. But put your soul out there.
raptor_rider
(1,014 posts)So addicted!! My truck is named Moiraine!! Lol!!!
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)I couldn't stand the writing, or the plot. I see why people like them, but...
Aerows
(39,961 posts)After Knife of Dreams. That was pretty much another one that failed besides Path of Daggers.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)You didn't like the Shadow Rising, or the Fires of Heaven? Those two are definitive of the series, and probably had the best writing.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)...and looking at the covers, I actually read through Fires of Heaven. Which sounds funny -- why read five if I don't like them? Part of it is I like reading writing I don't like, because I'm an editor and I like finding what I would change in bad writing. Part of it was I kept thinking I was missing something, because of the wild success these books have. It's the same reason I read the "Inheritance" series. Totally hated it; read the whole thing.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I'm surprised that an "editor" can't find them.
I'm not calling you out, but you made the statement that "I am an editor". That could mean anything and your ideas of what an editor is could be different, so I am going to leave it at that.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)I can see what's appealing about them. It's just not something that appeals to me. I'm not a book editor, but if I were and the MS crossed my desk, I would give it a second and even a third read. There's just a lot more work I would have put into them before publishing them. Would they have been as successful? Maybe, maybe not.
ETA: I hope I don't come across as some writing snob who thinks she's too good for these books. A have a lot of friends -- avid readers whose opinions I respect -- who love these books, and we've had some lively discussions.