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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsI guess I don't know a lot about ancient civilizations.....
but it seems like 99.99% of the history we know and understand about humans comes from the past 10,000 years or so which is a teeny, tiny blip in the history of the Earth.
Could it be possible that there were civilizations as advanced as we have today around say 500 million years ago, and they were just buried and all turned back into dirt so there is no proof of them today? How about 1.5 Billion years?
Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)Just because of all the extreme damage that we "civilized" humans do to the planet. There'd be evidence of radioactive waste buried somewhere, no ozone left, things like that. Things that may not even repair itself in a billion years.
Or, I could be wrong.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:53 PM - Edit history (1)
Ok... Ok... Fine.
No, I don't believe that there would have been, but to me is pretty much improbable.
If we say that Earth is about 4.54 Billion years old.
Then we say that first evidence of life is around 3.8 Billion years ago.
Then the first evidence they say of complex life forms were about 2.7 billion years ago as single celled organisms such called eukaryotes.
Soooo, 1.5 Billion years ago, I sincerely doubt it.
Oldest dinosaur fossils are around 120 Million years ago.
500 Million years ago, I mean, I seriously doubt it, but anything is possible.
A lot can happen in a million years.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Modern humans have only existed for last 135k years or so.
Some things would be hard to miss. For example abandoned giant copper mines, dams and the ilk.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Ilk are still around.
In Montana, I think...
Maybe Wyoming, too.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)But no one is allowed to see them, real "Top Secret" type of stuff.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)through earthquakes, floods, glacial periods, volcanos, meteor strikes, and the ilk. A lot can happen over 1.5 Billion years.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)That's a lot of Ilk poop.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)Modern Homo Sapiens have always born the conceit of thinking of themselves as the most advanced species...but what if we are not? What if we are on our way back to the apes...or earlier still? Advanced beings would know how to cover their tracks...leaving few clues.
HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)We can see it by the number of Neanderthals in the Republican Party.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)Shall we collaborate and publish?
Aristus
(66,462 posts)was actually a documentary. That's our future, and we're making it now...
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)such a depressing meme as that!
Aristus
(66,462 posts)It just worries me to see our national debate dullied and debased by such stupid people. I'm not talking ignorance here; ignorance can be cured. I'm talking about the deliberate, willful, prideful stupidity of such people as Michelle Bachman, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, and the Republican "rape" congressmen who all lost their seats in the last election, etc.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)I find myself sitting slack-jawed in disbelief at some of the things being put forward... often wondering just when it became so desirable to return to the nineteenth century!
Aristus
(66,462 posts)and forward thinking compared to what the extreme right-wingers want for the country.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)which witnessed the flowering of the labor movement, the national park system, etc. The right wingers envision an America of J P Morgan, John Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie...3 of the worst robber barons, but not the only such. The progressive movement was an outgrowth of the backlash created by such greedy and sociopathic con men. I sometimes fear it will take a return to those 'bad old days'
before we see real forward movement here.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)By that I mean a high level civilization, equivalent to ancient Rome or Greece, that was destroyed by some sort of natural cataclysm, and those that survived fled to different parts of the world. Then they stared rebuilding from scratch. They left no records, or at least none that we have ever found. I think this happened some where around 10,000-15,000 years BCE.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Under the ocean, way beyond the sea...
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)bluedigger
(17,087 posts)cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)not to mention 500 Million or 1.5 Billion years.
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)They did a remarkably good job keeping out of the fossil record overall, I guess.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)And they were probably not quite human ... maybe slightly human-like, though. Who knows ... There are billions upon billions of galaxies, let alone planets, so you've got to figure there has been all sorts of life occurring for hundreds of millions of years throughout the universe.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Not only is it possible but they could travel through time and came from outer space and impregnated wimmens of a different species and they turned out to be us.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)dawg
(10,624 posts)I do think that it is likely that something approaching what we call "civilization" arose during the last ice age and was severely disrupted by the change in climate and the extreme rise in the sea level. This would explain various commonalities among known early civilizations and would also explain lots of the myths and legends that have come down to us through the ages.
The most likely locations for such a civilization would now be under the ocean, and, in fact, mysterious stone structures have been located at depths that would have been above water in glacial times. Most serious academics consider this to be "woo-woo" stuff, but I think it warrants some serious investigation.
I don't think there was anything approaching the sophistication of the Greeks, Romans or Egyptians that far back in time, but I do think it's possible there was a highly sophisticated neolithic culture, with extensive maritime and overland trade relationships, that was destroyed only to be reborn centuries later in various corners of the world.
talkingmime
(2,173 posts)They'll probably think they were Frisbees or something. But then again, the earth is only 6,000 years old, Jesus rode dinosaurs and Noah had dinosaurs on the ark.
We have enough trouble figuring out what their tools were used for, and those aren't that old, relatively speaking. Our entire "known history" will probably fade into oblivion along with all of our "artifacts". We only count in the context of our present. It isn't like we've done anything of significance other than kill off species. Future cultures will wonder why they died and it will take them a few centuries of study to figure out that humans were the culprits.
Have a nice day.
hunter
(38,328 posts)They left no fossilized cell phones because they didn't need them. They didn't need shelters because they just toss up a force field if the weather was bad. They didn't need to write because they had perfect memories. They fought with teeth, claws, telepathic, and telekinetic powers. A strong warrior could simply will another warrior to surrender. If that didn't work they could use their telekinetic powers to fling rocks at one another.
Then two great nations got into a fight over whose sky god was real. The Eastern nation used their superior telekinetic powers to fling a large space rock at the Western nation, figuring they'd be safe themselves because, duh, it was the other side of the earth. Their miscalculation wiped out all intelligent life on earth.
The End.