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cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:01 PM Mar 2013

I guess I don't know a lot about ancient civilizations.....

but it seems like 99.99% of the history we know and understand about humans comes from the past 10,000 years or so which is a teeny, tiny blip in the history of the Earth.

Could it be possible that there were civilizations as advanced as we have today around say 500 million years ago, and they were just buried and all turned back into dirt so there is no proof of them today? How about 1.5 Billion years?

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I guess I don't know a lot about ancient civilizations..... (Original Post) cbdo2007 Mar 2013 OP
I'm thinking no Duer 157099 Mar 2013 #1
Neither do I but... Xyzse Mar 2013 #2
Talk to Gramps McCain. He may remember. Scuba Mar 2013 #3
Probably would not have been from humans AngryAmish Mar 2013 #4
What are you talking about? Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #5
Oh sure, I bet you have pictures of Ilk riding a dinosaur too... AngryAmish Mar 2013 #8
Yeah, well....maybe I do! Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #11
I would think an abandoned copper mine would be filled in over 1.5 Billion years.... cbdo2007 Mar 2013 #9
How many Ilk would it take to fill an abandoned copper mine, though? Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #12
What if man is actually devolving.... Sekhmets Daughter Mar 2013 #6
There is some credence in this theory HeiressofBickworth Mar 2013 #7
Brilliant! Sekhmets Daughter Mar 2013 #14
We are. "Idiocracy" was billed as a comedy (although very depressing...), but it Aristus Mar 2013 #17
I am not equal to the task of handling Sekhmets Daughter Mar 2013 #18
I'm not actually that pessimistic. Aristus Mar 2013 #19
And you're correct to be worried. Sekhmets Daughter Mar 2013 #20
There are times when the 19th Century seems like a model of progressivism Aristus Mar 2013 #21
well certainly the late 19th century... Sekhmets Daughter Mar 2013 #22
I think there was a precursor civilization to what we know today. MicaelS Mar 2013 #10
And where was this? AngryAmish Mar 2013 #15
You got it! n/t MicaelS Mar 2013 #16
Not unless they forgot to invent plastic, no. bluedigger Mar 2013 #13
Any traces of plastic would easily be decomposed in 100,000 years.... cbdo2007 Mar 2013 #24
Yeah, probably. bluedigger Mar 2013 #25
I do think it is possible ... but on other planets, not Earth. Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #23
Watch the History Channel lunatica Mar 2013 #26
That is an interesting theory. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #27
Not as advanced as ancient Greece, but ... dawg Mar 2013 #28
Fast forward 500 million years. Will they know how to play a DVD? talkingmime Mar 2013 #29
Once there was an intelligent race of dinosaurs that did everything with biology and telepathy. hunter Mar 2013 #30

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
1. I'm thinking no
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:06 PM
Mar 2013

Just because of all the extreme damage that we "civilized" humans do to the planet. There'd be evidence of radioactive waste buried somewhere, no ozone left, things like that. Things that may not even repair itself in a billion years.

Or, I could be wrong.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
2. Neither do I but...
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:07 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:53 PM - Edit history (1)



Ok... Ok... Fine.
No, I don't believe that there would have been, but to me is pretty much improbable.

If we say that Earth is about 4.54 Billion years old.
Then we say that first evidence of life is around 3.8 Billion years ago.
Then the first evidence they say of complex life forms were about 2.7 billion years ago as single celled organisms such called eukaryotes.

Soooo, 1.5 Billion years ago, I sincerely doubt it.
Oldest dinosaur fossils are around 120 Million years ago.

500 Million years ago, I mean, I seriously doubt it, but anything is possible.
A lot can happen in a million years.
 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
4. Probably would not have been from humans
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:13 PM
Mar 2013

Modern humans have only existed for last 135k years or so.

Some things would be hard to miss. For example abandoned giant copper mines, dams and the ilk.



cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
9. I would think an abandoned copper mine would be filled in over 1.5 Billion years....
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:29 PM
Mar 2013

through earthquakes, floods, glacial periods, volcanos, meteor strikes, and the ilk. A lot can happen over 1.5 Billion years.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
6. What if man is actually devolving....
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:20 PM
Mar 2013

Modern Homo Sapiens have always born the conceit of thinking of themselves as the most advanced species...but what if we are not? What if we are on our way back to the apes...or earlier still? Advanced beings would know how to cover their tracks...leaving few clues.

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
17. We are. "Idiocracy" was billed as a comedy (although very depressing...), but it
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:51 PM
Mar 2013

was actually a documentary. That's our future, and we're making it now...

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
19. I'm not actually that pessimistic.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:59 PM
Mar 2013

It just worries me to see our national debate dullied and debased by such stupid people. I'm not talking ignorance here; ignorance can be cured. I'm talking about the deliberate, willful, prideful stupidity of such people as Michelle Bachman, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, and the Republican "rape" congressmen who all lost their seats in the last election, etc.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
20. And you're correct to be worried.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:05 PM
Mar 2013

I find myself sitting slack-jawed in disbelief at some of the things being put forward... often wondering just when it became so desirable to return to the nineteenth century!

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
21. There are times when the 19th Century seems like a model of progressivism
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:09 PM
Mar 2013

and forward thinking compared to what the extreme right-wingers want for the country.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
22. well certainly the late 19th century...
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:15 PM
Mar 2013

which witnessed the flowering of the labor movement, the national park system, etc. The right wingers envision an America of J P Morgan, John Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie...3 of the worst robber barons, but not the only such. The progressive movement was an outgrowth of the backlash created by such greedy and sociopathic con men. I sometimes fear it will take a return to those 'bad old days'
before we see real forward movement here.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
10. I think there was a precursor civilization to what we know today.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 02:34 PM
Mar 2013

By that I mean a high level civilization, equivalent to ancient Rome or Greece, that was destroyed by some sort of natural cataclysm, and those that survived fled to different parts of the world. Then they stared rebuilding from scratch. They left no records, or at least none that we have ever found. I think this happened some where around 10,000-15,000 years BCE.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
24. Any traces of plastic would easily be decomposed in 100,000 years....
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:22 PM
Mar 2013

not to mention 500 Million or 1.5 Billion years.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
23. I do think it is possible ... but on other planets, not Earth.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:19 PM
Mar 2013

And they were probably not quite human ... maybe slightly human-like, though. Who knows ... There are billions upon billions of galaxies, let alone planets, so you've got to figure there has been all sorts of life occurring for hundreds of millions of years throughout the universe.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
26. Watch the History Channel
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:32 PM
Mar 2013

Not only is it possible but they could travel through time and came from outer space and impregnated wimmens of a different species and they turned out to be us.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
28. Not as advanced as ancient Greece, but ...
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:06 PM
Mar 2013

I do think that it is likely that something approaching what we call "civilization" arose during the last ice age and was severely disrupted by the change in climate and the extreme rise in the sea level. This would explain various commonalities among known early civilizations and would also explain lots of the myths and legends that have come down to us through the ages.

The most likely locations for such a civilization would now be under the ocean, and, in fact, mysterious stone structures have been located at depths that would have been above water in glacial times. Most serious academics consider this to be "woo-woo" stuff, but I think it warrants some serious investigation.

I don't think there was anything approaching the sophistication of the Greeks, Romans or Egyptians that far back in time, but I do think it's possible there was a highly sophisticated neolithic culture, with extensive maritime and overland trade relationships, that was destroyed only to be reborn centuries later in various corners of the world.

 

talkingmime

(2,173 posts)
29. Fast forward 500 million years. Will they know how to play a DVD?
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 05:58 PM
Mar 2013

They'll probably think they were Frisbees or something. But then again, the earth is only 6,000 years old, Jesus rode dinosaurs and Noah had dinosaurs on the ark.

We have enough trouble figuring out what their tools were used for, and those aren't that old, relatively speaking. Our entire "known history" will probably fade into oblivion along with all of our "artifacts". We only count in the context of our present. It isn't like we've done anything of significance other than kill off species. Future cultures will wonder why they died and it will take them a few centuries of study to figure out that humans were the culprits.

Have a nice day.

hunter

(38,328 posts)
30. Once there was an intelligent race of dinosaurs that did everything with biology and telepathy.
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 07:27 PM
Mar 2013

They left no fossilized cell phones because they didn't need them. They didn't need shelters because they just toss up a force field if the weather was bad. They didn't need to write because they had perfect memories. They fought with teeth, claws, telepathic, and telekinetic powers. A strong warrior could simply will another warrior to surrender. If that didn't work they could use their telekinetic powers to fling rocks at one another.

Then two great nations got into a fight over whose sky god was real. The Eastern nation used their superior telekinetic powers to fling a large space rock at the Western nation, figuring they'd be safe themselves because, duh, it was the other side of the earth. Their miscalculation wiped out all intelligent life on earth.

The End.

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