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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsSo I think my house is haunted by my Mother.
She died in bedroom in April and since then freaky things have happened.
1. I have folding doors from the den into living room. One of my dogs looked through crack into living room and whined and hair stood up on back on neck. No one was in the living room but oil portrait of Mother.
2. Things randomly falling off shelves and such.
3. My Mother loved birds and had bird prints. She raised a baby abandoned Robin to adulthood and set it free. I found a robins egg in the dog's water bowl which is not under a tree.
4. I was dusting built in shelves in den where I have collectible 60's Barbies. I just cleaned a month ago. There was a birds nest behind them. How the hell did it get there? It wasn't there a month ago.
She loved this house. I hate it, inherited it and selling most all the furniture in estate auction. It is going out tomorrow. I have a few repairs to make and it's up for rent/sell.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Good luck.
bamademo
(2,193 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,399 posts)to me the other morning that he was awake the previous night--not dreaming--and had clearly felt Simba walking
on the bed as he would come up and get right in the middle between us.
We've seen indentations on the tightly made bed that match the exact spot where Simba would nap during the day.
No, the dog wasn't up there--she's much too big to make the indentation.
HarveyDarkey
(9,077 posts)when the eggs hatch the parents take the egg remnants and drop them far from the nest in order to keep predators from locating the nest. The other events I have no explanation, but I wasn't there.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)HarveyDarkey
(9,077 posts)A "ghost of the gaps" as it were
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)So many people on this site believing in ghosts amazes me.
orleans
(34,070 posts)my mom died three and a half years ago and i can't count all the signs she has given me in this house we lived in together. she didn't die at home but home is where the heart is. (lights turning off and on, flashing; knocking, her perfume smell, popcorn smell, literally hearing her say my name, etc.)
but i get a lot of signs from her outside the house as well--not so frequently anymore but the first few years it was amazing. i'd ask her for a sign or tell her to give me one and i'd find a car with her name or one of her nicknames on their license plate in front of me! songs on the radio, finding little items like pennies (although it wasn't pennies or money) that we had a running joke about for years.
talk to her. let her know you're picking up on these things.
it sounds like she plans on staying regardless of whether or not you sell the house. it's still pretty recent and if she loved the house then why leave?
bamademo
(2,193 posts)I don't think she wishes me ill but the lady who took care of her and was with her when she died told me she talks to her and says "Leave me alone, I mean no harm." She loved her life here. I'm glad I gave her the opportunity to die here.
AmyStrange
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about the haunted events?
Maybe a local ghost hunting group would be willing to check it out or even rent or buy it to hold meetings in. That would be kind of cool.
Anyway, sorry about the loss of your mother. She sounded like a nice person,
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bamademo
(2,193 posts)I just thinks it's her reaching out making peace. We didn't have a good relationship. When she got dementia, I moved in and took care after Dad died and she resented it because she was in denial about it. That's the worst part of Alzheimer's. That don't want to relinquish control.
AmyStrange
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I think it's kind of a nice thing that she's trying to make the effort... and that you believe it too.
She still sounds like a nice person anyway with the robin nursing thing, and what a horrible horrible thing to have going on inside your head (dementia), sorry, but you are a nice person too to try and take care of her. So frustrating, sorry ((((HUGz))))
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pscot
(21,024 posts)We make our own ghosts.
EvilAL
(1,437 posts)How an unprovable ghost presence holds water in court I don't know, but the way things seem to be going, people that can 'talk to the dead' will be testifying in court as the murdered person.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,804 posts)But my mother swore she had a cat ghost in her house. It was the ghost of her old cat who passed away at the age of 18. Mom said she kept seeing the cat out of the corner of her eye, darting behind the couch.
bamademo
(2,193 posts)I was wide awake and would feel that cat.
mnhtnbb
(31,399 posts)EdwardSmith74
(282 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts).... if its only been since April and she had dementia, she may be "in between" & not realize it.
My first BF died unexpectedly and afterward, he'd come in random places where we used to go & I would try to tell him "You can't be here" but it was like we were in parallel worlds: he couldn't hear me/see me but I could see him. Finally after a few years I was able to "get through" to him - actually made eye contact - and told him "it was time to go". He touched my arm, turned and walked away. Haven't 'seen' him since.
You might want to meditate or try to talk to her just before you go to sleep, or try some focused dreaming, to let her know that she needs to finish her journey to her 'new home'.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)lack of a grasp of reality.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)And you are free to not believe whatever you don't want to believe.
Go piss in someone else's wheaties, asshole.
AmyStrange
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I believe in life after death, only because when I die and if there is life after death, I will harass all the pricks who didn't believe in it and they can NEVER do the same back at me if they're right,
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HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)nolabear
(41,990 posts)Respect for others' points of view is a good quality, even as you stand your own ground. Imo your response was designed to hurt feelings, and I can't see how that's a positive in any way.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)When I see it, I usually comment on it, as is my right. You of course also have the right to object to my comment.
nolabear
(41,990 posts)Really interesting analytical thinking involves asking questions and having a genuine interest in the answers. Your reply was more along the order of throwing out an accusation. Why not be curious and find out where the belief comes from, what purpose it serves, consider your own and what they serve, and open up an interesting opportunity to analyze those things? As I said I don't believe in ghosts but I'd enjoy hearing more and appreciating the clearly important aspect of the idea put forth.
bamademo
(2,193 posts)without analytical skills. I am a tech support specialist so I apply those skills every day. There is no logical reason a birds nest got built on my shelf in the den. There were no birds in here.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)And a ton of things happen to everyone every day. So there are going to be coincidences
AmyStrange
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are more than just coincidences. Not EVERYTHING can be explained away as just being a coincidence.
Ted Bundy's credit card receipts showed he was in the area the day many people disappeared in Washington and Colorado and Utah back in the 1970s and 80s. Were these all coincidences too?
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HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)AmyStrange
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your logic, logical, doubly sorry for that,
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BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)And he had a great respect for the mystical, as well.
Carl Sagan wasn't nasty and arrogant.
Stephen Hawking isn't nasty and arrogant.
Neil DeGrass Tyson isn't nasty and arrogant.
Guess you're just not in their class, eh? Yeah, little man, it's important for little men to be nasty to people so people will respect them.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)He is indeed a little, little man.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)My post was utterly and inarguably logical.
It was everything he says he wants.
Why why WHY does he ignore me????
840high
(17,196 posts)warrior1
(12,325 posts)that don't involve your mother being a ghost.
You are trying finding meanings into things that ordinarily you would not have tried to give it a reason.
I am so sorry for your loss.
AmyStrange
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are not always the right one. The history of science proves this. If you don't believe me just look up spontaneous generation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_generation
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HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)AmyStrange
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but saying it's illogical don't make it so, anymore than calling me Captain (although I know you're pretending to be Spock when you say that) actually makes me a Captain,
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Iggo
(47,563 posts)Mine would.
bamademo
(2,193 posts)But I cleaned out a lot of drawers this weekend and I found a lot of awards she got working with international community here in Huntsville. She did make a difference in our community.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)She's from Thailand where apparently ghosts are almost universally accepted as real. She's superstitious and chews you out if you're in her home and knock on or hit something made of wood after dark because it supposedly calls forth the "poopi pissa" (spelling?), an evil demon.
When she was a little girl playing in the back yard of a house her parents had just moved into, she met another little girl and played with her for several days. One day she brought up the little girl to her parents and they spoke about her to the neighbors. The neighbors asked her about the little girl and my cousin's wife described her as someone who looked just like a little girl who used to live in that house and who had died when she fell down a well. She had the same name and my cousin's wife identified a little girl in a photograph as the one she had played with for several days in the back yard. There were no other little girls that age living in the neighborhood.
Apophis
(1,407 posts)AmyStrange
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Just wondering what you are using as proof?
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Apophis
(1,407 posts)Those who say ghosts do exist have to prove that they exist.
AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
besides, why are we the only ones burdened with having to prove something? Prove ghost don't exist first,
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Apophis
(1,407 posts)AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
and sometimes you can't.
You can prove that many many US laws don't exist, like the death penalty for all liars, or that two moons don't exist orbiting Earth, or that the sun exist four feet from Earth etc., etc.
Sometimes you can't even prove that something exist even when you know it does.
Such as character, personality, sensibility, righteousness, fear, hate, your mind and etc. etc.
It's all a matter of perspective really. If you don't want to believe, fine, but that doesn't automatically make it untrue.
Besides, if you don't believe in ghost, you really should go visit the most haunted place in America, Gettysburg, and tell the people there ghost don't exist,
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Apophis
(1,407 posts)You want to go down that road? Fine. Prove Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny doesn't exist.
See how silly that sounds?
Gettysburg isn't haunted. I've been there. I was there at night back in '05. No ghosts.
AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
actually you're the one that wants to go down this road. Like my roommate has always told me. Anything is possible, just not always probable. And as improbable as some things are (like a Royal Flush, Ace high) they still happen.
Same thing with ghost, as improbable as they are, there is still a probability (no matter how small) that they really do exist.
And THAT is all I'm saying,
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Prove to me that Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny don't exist.
I'm pointing out, to you, how silly proving something doesn't exist sounds.
AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
You're the one that said ghost don't exist and you don't have to prove it.
That's fine, that's what you believe, I can respect that, but I was just curious as to what you base your belief on if you can't prove you're right?
Anyway, I have issues with the ghost are dead people thing. I think ghost are just emotional residue. You know how some places feel different than others. They may be mind tricks, but hospitals and funeral homes feel different than most places, even cemeteries and churches. Whatever, I'm tired,
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Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)in the Waverly Hills Sanatorium in Louisville, Kentucky, reputed to be the most haunted building in America. Lots of people have claimed that lots of weird stuff happens there, especially on the 4th and 5th floors.
http://therealwaverlyhills.com/newsite/
Apophis
(1,407 posts)I'd do it. There's no ghosts. No poltergeists. No demons. Just mind tricks.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I'll be waiting for your report.
AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
this is in reply to your post Art, but it is rally in response to people who say ghost are mind tricks.
That may be true that ghost are just mind tricks, but isn't everything we know and remember and see and hear and smell, just one BIG mind trick anyway? Who's to say what's really real and what's not?
But in reply to you Art, yes I've heard some scary stories about the Waverly Hills Sanatorium, but of course all that is just a trick of the mind, didn't you know?
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Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I certainly won't scoff at people who claim to have seen a ghost. I myself have had some experiences that were kind of creepy, including a series of dreams about a disaster on the other side of the world that, as it turned out, was actually happening at the time I was dreaming about it.
AmyStrange
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and I wouldn't scoff at people who said they saw one either, but me and my roommate have done some preliminary research into that subject and what we've learned so far suggest that some people may be more sensitive to things outside our five senses than the rest of us are.
Or it all may just be mind tricks?
I personally don't care. I just think it's fun to think and talk about,
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HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Apophis
(1,407 posts)HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)..than are dreamt of in your philosophy..."
Peace and remembrance, bamademo.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)But this was scary. One evening, I went to my mother's house and started to open the front door, but the door knob turned by itself and opened the door. I had not touched it. It was not my mother because she was asleep in the back of the house in the Florida room. And it was not the dog because he was not trained to open doors.
AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
and like some people here say, there may be a logical explanation for this (I have actually seen a cat open a door by swiping it with her paw), or it could have just been a ghost. Just because someone says an explanation is the right one don't make it the right one anymore than someone saying it's a ghost makes that the right answer either,
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
I do have some issues with Ghost really being dead people or that dead people can turn into ghost. Most of the ones I've ever heard of seem more like some kind of life residue, like a tape recorder caught in some kind of historical time-loop or some such nonsense.
But just because I have issues with it, don't mean that I'm right and ghost aren't really dead people, but really just residue from some emotional tragedy. I may be wrong.
Also, why don't more serial killer houses (where serial killers bury their victims) don't have more reported ghost sightings? Out here in Seattle, some of the places where Gary Ridgway (Green River Killer) left some of his victims are now Apartment Complexes and also where the third Runway for SeaTac was built. Wonder if there's anything weird going on there?
Anyway, sorry for rambling on and on,
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)My sisters old house was haunted and her guest that slept over were always scared to come back.
AmyStrange
(7,989 posts)-
but you're right, weird things do happen.
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)were nuts, until one afternoon I fell asleep on the couch. I felt something come up behind me and it scared me to death. At first I thought I just had a bad dream but after that day I kept on feeling and seeing an old man. The kids were terrified of the house and finally she felt the need to move. Her next house never had a problem.
AmyStrange
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just curious as to whether she told the prospective buyers about the haunted aspects of the house.
Sometimes, things are so weird that the only way some people will believe they happened is if they see it happen in front of them.
Thank you for sharing justin,
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)RiffRandell
(5,909 posts)I believe in ghosts; call me stupid...don't care. Never encountered one, but if a house I was interested in buying had rumors of it being haunted I would pass.
There are things you can do to "cleanse" a house like burning sage.
I am not a religious person and have a hard time with the demon aspect, but those were the scariest episodes.
Those are some strange occurrences. I'm sorry for your loss.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)AmyStrange
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that you have disclose to a prospective buyer if house is "known" to be haunted. the "known" part is the tricky part. or something like that.
I love the Discovery channel and I don't think you're stupid,
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Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)Did the dog know her? Does he act defensive or friendly when he looks through the door?
AmyStrange
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are a very interesting subject. Some people believe that animals can see things that we humans can't see, because they aren't encumbered with the ability or need to think things through.
Anyway, I certainly hope you get an answer to your question,
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Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)I was part of what was known as the debunk squad. One of the things we would ask is how the animal was reacting. Was he upset or happy.
Just hearing the animal was reacting w would get air samples anyway. If there was some sort of gas in the house, dogs in particular , have been known to reacted.
Now if we on the debunk squad could not find any explanation for at lest 25% of the report, we would send in the other part of the team that would investigate it as a haunting.
If we could knock out over that 25% and the people still wanted it checked, then the others would come in. But many, if we could prove a reasonable explanation, would not care.
So that is why I ask about the dog. Two questions are, and it would be asked by team 2, "did the dog know her and was s/he acting friendly or upset?" Debunk would only ask if s/he was reacting to anything and was it in a particular are or in multiple areas.
AmyStrange
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thank you for the explanation. Not the explanation I was expecting, but definitely interesting. So basicly, you were the team that went in to separate the wheat from the chaff?
What was the name of this group, if you don't mind my asking?
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Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)We were a recognized college group of MSSU. We were a mix of Communication, History, Sociology, Physiology, Physic, Biology, and IT Majors.
AmyStrange
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Is there any one book you would recommend to read about ghost or hunting them?
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Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)If you get a chance, try Skeptic Magazine. Yes, it is big on debunking. But that is a big part of ghost hunting. It is when you can not come up with answers is when you know something is going on.
If you are interested in some of the darker parts of investigating, try "Shadows of the Dark" by John Zaffis and co-author Brian McIntyre.
AmyStrange
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nothing wrong with being a skeptic, my roommate's a skeptic, and we both appreciate your suggestions,
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