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Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:36 AM Oct 2013

While we're pissing off music fans...

You know, I never really liked Nirvana. I was 18 when that first album came out and while "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was cool for a bit, it quickly wore thin and I just didn't think they made any other music that was truly noteworthy.

But here they are about to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and their heavy influence can still be heard on the new hard rock stations. Guess what. I've been wishing someone else would come along and change rock for a long time now.

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uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
1. Most rock leaves me cold...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:18 AM
Oct 2013

I take the highlights and escape back into other genres. Mind you I have a library of approx 20,000 songs, so I listen to something for a while... listen to something else... listen to something else... listen to something else... then come back to the first playlist and it it sounds fresh again.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
2. I'm of that generation, and I could never get into Nirvana.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 01:12 PM
Oct 2013

But my kids like them more than I ever did. Go figure.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
3. i was ten when nevermind came out
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 01:30 PM
Oct 2013

loved them through my teen years, now all i can stand is unplugged and a few songs off incesticide.

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
5. If there was one before Nevermind
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:44 PM
Oct 2013

I'm sure it was even worse because Nevermind was bad and that's the one they're remembered for.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
11. Bleach was first. It's a more "scattered" album, a mixed bag. It is at-times their best and worst.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:39 PM
Oct 2013

In some sense, it feels like the music they'd have made if it were up to them; if they'd never hit it big and had to meet producer and fan expectations. Of their albums, it's the one that sounds the least like the classic Nirvana sound.

Part of the album is a more angry, hardcore sound than Nirvana fans would come to expect from their later albums. Songs like Downer, Scoff and School are straight-forward and brief, punctuated by their surf-thrash guitar riffs straight out of the California hardcore scene and played fast and angry over prominent repetitive bass lines. The lyrics are more angsty and anthemic but forgettable. This isn't a message, it's rage. They want to say something but it seems they don't know what it is.

The other half of the album is at-once a more layered harmonic sound. It sounds more like classical Nirvana but presents as a more complex sound than they'd ever show again, excepting some flashes on In Utero. Tracks like Floyd the Barber and Love Buzz show the actual talent of Cobain as a guitarist and Novoselic as a bassist as they overlay multiple layers of melodic riffs, often building to a crescendo from which it does the only thing it can do in the closing of the song: it collapses into chaos. The lyrics here are more repetitive and less significant but it passes because it's less about the content than the use of Cobain's voice as just one more instrument in the swirling mix. This sound is best captured in the one single from Bleach, About a Girl, a song they'd re-record on later albums and live albums. It's never as good as the Bleach version:

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
6. I like nirvana okay,
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:04 PM
Oct 2013

But when are they going to induct Warren Zevon into the HOF? A gross oversight, IMO.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
7. Can't stand Nirvana
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:03 PM
Oct 2013

but I love Dave Grohl/Foo Fighters/Probot/Them Crooked Vultures/anything else he does.

I quit trying to figure it out. I just enjoy what I like and ignore what I don't.

I don't think I like much of anything considered "grunge" but I love the Melvins who influenced a lot of grunge bands.

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
10. I love the Foo Fighters too but I detest the Melvins...
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:35 PM
Oct 2013

I just got rid of everything by the Melvins that was in my iTunes library. For some reason they just annoy me...

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
12. THe funny part is
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:04 PM
Oct 2013

I can completely understand that. They got some flat-out weird stuff. For now I'm OK with the weird but I could imagine a time where I'm just like "WTF?" I get the same vibe from the Butthole Surfers and Swans. Some days I hear something come up in the random winamp playlist and I just get lost in it and sometimes it's just "Huh? skip>>..."

nolabear

(41,986 posts)
8. I learned to like them over time but don't own them. Being in Seattle they're pretty revered.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:17 PM
Oct 2013

I do think they were incredibly influential and probably did about all they could given the genre's fondness for outsiders and garage grunge.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
13. I was a prime target for grunge. Not my genre.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:11 PM
Oct 2013

I'd already fallen hard for electronic music by then. I liked my music crisp and grunge sounded like it was recorded on instruments stuffed with insulation on analog equipment that needed to be cleaned with Everclear and q-tips.

Which is not a bad thing, but it got old pretty fast.

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