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EastTennesseeDem

(2,675 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:03 PM Oct 2013

EastTennesseeDem's First Year of Freezing His Balls off (ergo, advice request)

So two and a half months ago I moved to Madison, Wisconsin for graduate school.

Great city. Great, great, great city. I'm as liberal as they come, but when you grow up in an uber-conservative part of the country, the sight of two people of the same sex holding hands in public is surreal. It's awesome, but I'm still trying to shake my shock over seeing it.

But holy shit.

This is the kind of cold I experience for two weeks maybe in January.

Now, when I say "cold" I don't just mean the 40-degree highs. That I can and have dealt with (I tend to deal with it in early February rather than October, but that's neither here nor there).

What I mean is the 40-degree highs plus fucking, biting, lakefront monsoonal winds. The virtual entirety of Madison is an isthmus, sitting between two fairly large lakes. My apartment and the university are smack in the middle of this isthmus.

So, how do my northern friends deal with it? Thus far, I have dealt with it with booze. And it helps. But as much as I love beer (especially the fact that I moved from the state with the highest beer tax in this great nation to the state with the lowest, meaning that a 12-pack of a microbrew stout here costs about the same as a 12-pack of Natty or Keystone at home), I can't go to class every other day protected by a beer blanket. How do you guys deal with it when it's too cold to go anywhere? This city is so great that I spend almost all my time elsewhere. But there will come a time where restricting my boundaries to my studio apartment will become inevitable.

The reason I ask is that it's freaking October. Two and three months from now, this will feel like summer.



(The great irony of all this: I'm pursuing my master's in a discipline that owes its existence that seeks to curtail climate change.)

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EastTennesseeDem's First Year of Freezing His Balls off (ergo, advice request) (Original Post) EastTennesseeDem Oct 2013 OP
fur, fur ,fur. though modern equivalents work well loli phabay Oct 2013 #1
Alcohol, being a depressent, actually makes it worse. Best approach is to .... Scuba Oct 2013 #2
move to keep your blood flowing... handmade34 Oct 2013 #3
Vanity goes out the window Sienna86 Oct 2013 #4
Find love.............. mrmpa Oct 2013 #5
Never been in those climates, but I hear layering and the materials/order used has a lot to do Incitatus Oct 2013 #6
I am in Georgia and the temps are supposed to go into the 30s tonight. RebelOne Oct 2013 #7
New Englander pipi_k Oct 2013 #8
Hey d_r Oct 2013 #9
I hate cold weather. rrneck Oct 2013 #10
The secret is clothes, lots of them, in layers. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #11
+! layers layers layers struggle4progress Oct 2013 #18
+1. If you're buying some hiking boots, allow room for thick socks and/or multiple socks. winter is coming Oct 2013 #26
Invest in some quality Callalily Oct 2013 #12
I hate cold LumosMaxima Oct 2013 #13
Wear layers of clothing that won't restrict your movement. In_The_Wind Oct 2013 #14
I've lived in the NE for 34 years... Earth_First Oct 2013 #15
Hot, Hot, shower or bath and yankeepants Oct 2013 #16
Thanks, friends!! EastTennesseeDem Oct 2013 #17
Others mentioned it, but I'll say, #1, hats, elleng Oct 2013 #19
I've been living in the cold since 1975. Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #20
people should be able to hibernate like bears TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #21
I haven't experienced it myself but grew up with stories csziggy Oct 2013 #22
It's unusually cold for this time of the year, look for a warm up soon. But B Calm Oct 2013 #23
Cuddle duds femmocrat Oct 2013 #24
I'd get one of these to protect your face hedgehog Oct 2013 #25
it is only October awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #27
Go to your neighborhood pharmacy and buy Trailrider1951 Oct 2013 #28
 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
1. fur, fur ,fur. though modern equivalents work well
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:12 PM
Oct 2013

Stay dry no sweat, layers work well, keep head feet and hands warm and it makes a difference. Best thing is two roaring fires on either side of you with a couple of naked spooning buddies.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. Alcohol, being a depressent, actually makes it worse. Best approach is to ....
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:13 PM
Oct 2013

... toughen up a little. I'll bet you see people still wearing shorts, am I right?

Shed that parka, stocking hat and gloves and soak it in. By January you'll be used to it.






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January of 2040 that is.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
3. move to keep your blood flowing...
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:20 PM
Oct 2013

Also:
Down
long johns (wool or silk)
balaclava
gloves

you will learn to love it





Sienna86

(2,149 posts)
4. Vanity goes out the window
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:24 PM
Oct 2013

And, you will acclimate in time. I made a move years ago to Minnesota as winter was starting. Yikes. Invested in a down coat, and good hat and gloves. A nice scarf to wrap around the exposed parts of your face too. Find some smartwool socks on sale on Sierra Trading website too. You will survive and find a Tom and Jerry to drink when it's really cold some night.

The good news is that if and when you ever move south of Madison! you'll be running around in winter without a winter coat. Your body will adjust.

Take care.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
5. Find love..............
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:59 PM
Oct 2013

before the next snow. You want this person to not be introduced to you while the snot is freezing on your face.

You want him/her to laugh at the site of your red cheeks, eyes tearing from the cold and wind (this will happen once you're in love). Once you fall in love, then there will be no need to leave the apartment (except for classes) & your partner will keep you warm all winter.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
6. Never been in those climates, but I hear layering and the materials/order used has a lot to do
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 10:08 PM
Oct 2013

with keeping warm.

This s from a quick search.

http://www.backpacker.com/gear/ask_kristin/103

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
7. I am in Georgia and the temps are supposed to go into the 30s tonight.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 10:12 PM
Oct 2013

But I don't mind the cold at all. It is easier to get warm in winter than it is to get cool in summer. In winter, you can always bundle up with lots of clothes when you go outside. But in summer, there is just so much you can take off without being arrested for indecent exposure. I love the cold weather, so I am not complaining. I lived in South Florida most of my life until I moved up here to North Georgia. At least we have seasons and not just year-round summer.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
8. New Englander
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 10:20 PM
Oct 2013

here.

Like others said, layering.

Wool is good.

Hot cocoa.

For around the house, I have a pair of flaxseed filled booties. Microwave them for a few minutes and slap those babies on your feet...instant warmth for at least 30 to 45 minutes.

Also, like others said, by the time January rolls around, you'll be a bit more used to the cold. If you get midwinter thaws out there (we do), then a 40 degree day can feel like summer.

All this winter crap makes springtime even more enjoyable when it finally comes.



d_r

(6,907 posts)
9. Hey
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 10:30 PM
Oct 2013

we are from down here and lived in Lansing MI for 8 years.
You get used to it.
If they can handle it, you can handle it.
You find out it isn't the depth of the cold, it is the breadth of winter.
Right now, they think it is fall. You think it is winter. And you are going to think it is winter until April. That's the hard part.
Here's what helps.
Find an outlet mall and buy some fleece.
Fleece is your friend.
Layer that stuff.
Fleece in layers keeps warm but on the top you want something to break the wind. Because the wind can cut right through the fleece.
So layers.
Fleece vest. Fleece jacket. outer coat. Fleece gloves. Fleece hat.
Long underwear under your jeans. I still love my fleece pants.
All that stuff you've heard all your life - wear layers, wear a hat, well, this is what they were talking about.
Find some reasons to be outside. Find an interest in winter activities and get out. You can't stay inside all the time. You'll start to get used to it. If you stay inside you'll get depressed. Get out.
In the snow keep your feet dry. Get some slip on snow boots. Lined in fleece.
Don't wait to shovel that smack, just get out and shovel it.
Oh, beer outside in the cold is wonderful. get a beer glove. It is so great when you have a cold beer and it just stays almost frozen because it is so damn cold. You'll get used to it.
It gets really gross when it starts to melt. These first snows are so white and so pretty, but soon it will be dirty and black and nasty. But then a new snow will cover it again.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
10. I hate cold weather.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 10:34 PM
Oct 2013

I heat with wood and refuse to light a fire until after Halloween at least. It's not unusual to be reading DU in a forty five or fifty degree living room. I just wear lots of clothes in the house and sleep under an electric blanket. I have a fancy I'm getting used to cold weather.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,722 posts)
11. The secret is clothes, lots of them, in layers.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:01 PM
Oct 2013

And when it starts to snow, don't wear jeans; cotton doesn't hold heat and you will really freeze your nuts off if your pants are wet. Wool sweaters and socks are good. Get a good quality down or synthetic down jacket, a pair of warm gloves, a hat and a scarf, and boots. Sneakers are not good in the snow.

Also, liquor will make you colder, not warmer. Coffee is much better for staying warm.

I've lived in Wisconsin or Minnesota all my life. You do get used to it. I might get around to wearing a hat and buttoning my jacket some time in January. Right now a windbreaker is plenty warm. But if you're not used to it, it will seem a bit nippy for the first couple of months. Lots of clothes and hot coffee is all you need.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
26. +1. If you're buying some hiking boots, allow room for thick socks and/or multiple socks.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 11:33 PM
Oct 2013

I have lived in places where I wore 2-3 layers of socks in the winter.

Also, get something to cover your as much of your face/head as possible.

Callalily

(14,889 posts)
12. Invest in some quality
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 06:15 AM
Oct 2013

long underwear/base layers. Also invest in flannel lined jeans/pants - they are the BEST!

Don't worry, you'll toughen up in no time. 40 degrees will soon seem balmy to you!

Good luck with degree - Madison is a great town!

LumosMaxima

(585 posts)
13. I hate cold
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:15 AM
Oct 2013

I grew up in the midwest and I never really got used to it. I'm already one of those people who are cold all the time, so it hits me pretty hard. The long underwear comes out in October & comes off in April (in a good year). I have found that how I feel about the cold has a lot to do with how I feel about the rest of my life: if I'm generally happy, I deal with the cold better than when I am unhappy. So try to be happy, I guess?

I have a friend who lives on Lake Monona, and I know what you mean about the cold winds blowing off the lakes. It can be so intense it almost makes me panic.

Anyway, someone already suggested long underwear. Also keep your head covered. Don't watch the weather forecast unless people are talking about a blizzard and you really need to know what's coming, because it's all just going to be varying degrees of yuck & it's worse if you dread it. Sometimes you just have to focus on doing what must be done, and try not to think about how cold it is. Good luck!

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
14. Wear layers of clothing that won't restrict your movement.
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:21 AM
Oct 2013

Personally ... I rarely venture out after the sun goes down in winter months. I'm a transplanted southerner living in upstate New York. Twenty five years ago, I'd bundle up and track animals through the snow just for the fun of it.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
15. I've lived in the NE for 34 years...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 07:22 AM
Oct 2013

You could say that I've been acclimated to it, however having never lived elsewhere; I guess I've dealt with it.

The best advice not yet given: have a sense of humor about it!

You cannot change the weather, but you sure as hell can adjust your sense of humor to roll with it.

Enjoy the transplant experience!

yankeepants

(1,979 posts)
16. Hot, Hot, shower or bath and
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 08:19 AM
Oct 2013

immediately dress in all the clothing that the aforementioned folk have suggested for either indoors or out. Put clothes in the dryer for a few minutes prior to wearing. The point is, avoid that first chill at all cost. Don't bunch up and raise your shoulders to your neck. Move!

I live in northern New York. I'm a pro.

All best,
Yankeepants

elleng

(130,956 posts)
19. Others mentioned it, but I'll say, #1, hats,
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 12:22 AM
Oct 2013

cause LOTS of body head escapes via heads, and don't worry about wearing one/them around the house.

Have fun!!!

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
20. I've been living in the cold since 1975.
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 12:25 AM
Oct 2013

My best advice? Layer up. If you're going to be outside for any length of time, wear some thermal undies, then your jeans, then snow pants. Hoodies are great over your thermal top and regular shirt, then get a nice down parka. Something on your head. Gloves inside of mittens. A scarf around your neck. That ought to do it. Sorels or some other kind of lined boot works well, although my feet stay pretty warm if I wear some kind of sneakers with thick soles.

I've spent hours outside dressed like this at subzero temperatures and lived to tell.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
21. people should be able to hibernate like bears
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 07:15 AM
Oct 2013

I'd love to be able to go to bed in October and wake up in April.

Booze is stupid. It actually makes you more susceptible to cold weather.

Cold wind chill is so much worse than much lower temperatures with no wind chill. It royally sucks. Wear warmer wind resistant clothing on the outside and layer your clothing underneath. Invest in a good pair of long johns both tops and bottoms, warm socks (double them up if necessary without making your footwear too tight since that will make them colder faster by restricted blood flow), warm gloves or mittens. Try to keep your hands in your pockets or tucked up your sleeves as much as possible so they can suck up the body heat of the warmer midsection of your body. The worst is the face though since other than a ski mask which makes people nervous there's not much else to do other than invest in a good long warm scarf to wrap around as much of your face as you can and still be able to breath and see. WEAR A HAT. Most of our body temperature escapes through the top of the head, so wear a good warm hat with earmuffs or that covers your ears.

Get used to having to bundle up like a mummy and still try to walk. Eventually your body will acclimate. I froze my ass off walking the dog tonight in only slightly less clothing that I wear in the worst of winter though it was only 34 degrees with no windchill. By January when it's 17 or less with constant winds it actually won't feel as bad since I will have acclimated to it.

Invest in a good quality real flannel shirt with a quilted or faux fur lining. They keep you amazingly warm. I even sweat in mine sometimes in the winter and have to unzipper my coat. I also wear it around the house all the time during the winter so I don't have to put the heat up so high. I think I got mine in the mens' department at Sears last fall since the one I had for ages finally fell apart though I'm still kind of bummed about that since it used to be my Dad's. This one even has faux fur lined pockets to put your hands in, but I just like them for putting keys, smokes and stuff like that in though it still has the usual front pockets with the flaps on the chest.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
22. I haven't experienced it myself but grew up with stories
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 07:38 AM
Oct 2013

After my parents met in Hawaii at the end of WWII, my Dad took my Alabama raised Mom to Houghton, Michigan so he could finish his engineering degree at Michigan Tech. Mom told us stories about the cold - none of their children opted to live farther north than Florida!

One of the best stories was that they had no refrigerator in their uninsulated attic apartment, so Dad came up with the idea of putting their perishables on the windowsill outside. That worked until the window froze shut and Mom couldn't make dinner, LOL!

It doesn't help that our family carries a gene that makes our blood flow slow when cold - probably from Mom's side since Dad's side was from Escanaba, Michigan. It's called Raynaud's syndrome and makes it very hard to deal with cold.

Mom taught us Floridian children to use layers - and the few times it's gotten very cold here that worked - we layered up with all the warm clothes we owned. We may have looked like Peanuts characters, but we stayed warm. I live farther north than my sisters - in North Florida - and ran a horse farm so had to be out in the weather more.

Invest in sweaters and in a good outer coat that will block the wind - get one a few sizes larger than you'd normally need so you can wear several sweaters or sweatshirts underneath. Long johns help, silk and/or thermal - layers help there, too. Good water proof boots - if your feet get wet, you will feel colder.

Good luck!

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
23. It's unusually cold for this time of the year, look for a warm up soon. But
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 07:39 AM
Oct 2013

in the mean time I recommend a Spotted Cow, a couple hits of good smoke, and lots of red hot sex to stay warm.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
25. I'd get one of these to protect your face
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 09:39 PM
Oct 2013
http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens/mens-outerwear/headwear/75030.aspx

Have gloves - if your fingers get cold, get some silk liners.

Warm socks and dry feet are a must!

A quilted jacket that covers your butt and has a windproof shell is what you need.

Long johns under your jeans.

Also - check out your apartment - you may need to seal the windows and base of the door. The home supply stores ghenerally have a plastic film that you can shrink wrap your windows with for an extra layer of insulation.

All kidding aside - alcohol plus cold temperatures can kill people. Be careful when bar hopping!

You didn't mention if you're driving - but - here in Upstate New York at the end of Lake Ontario, we generally get several wet snowfalls at the start of winter. This snow is greasy and packs to ice under your tires - very slippery! Also, once it gets much below 15 degrees (correct me on this, someone) the road salt doesn't do any good and the packed snow can be slick.

Finally - if the locals tell you to stay in, listen to them! They know the conditions better than you!

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
28. Go to your neighborhood pharmacy and buy
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 04:04 PM
Oct 2013

a heating pad, the kind that shuts off after about 2 hours. Put this at the foot of your bed and turn it on a few minutes before bedtime. It will keep your feet toasty no matter what the temperature is. I've found that if my feet are warm, so is the rest of me. Best $12 I ever spent.

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