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Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 02:39 AM Dec 2013

Very disturbing event yesterday

I'm visiting my daughter in another state. I brought along a friend, who lives on my property, maintains it. He's a bit "ghetto-ish," but I like that, because my home is located in a depressed area, and he knows the area well, and steers trash away from where we live. I've known him for about two years, no problems.

Anyway, yesterday, he goes out onto the streets, come back with a little buzz on. Then, he starts drinking with my daughter and her friends. In the middle of it, he goes to the bathroom, stays an inordinate amount of time and comes back out, and pulls some cocaine out of his pocket and plunks it onto the table. My daughter and all but one of her friends is outside, enjoying a small bonfire in the backyard, and doesn't see this. When they come back in, my friend is clearly wanting to fight.

They get him calmed down for a minute, and he comes into my room, sits on the bed, ranting and raving. He wants to go home. So, I call him a cab to take him to the bus station, and I'm in the process of trying to find the website to buy him a ticket, and he pulls his arm back and wallops me across the face. Then he proceeds to tell me that he's getting a gun and going to kill me and the rest of my family.

I go outside, to the driveway, call 911, and wait for the cops. They have to take him down with a tazer, and take him to the hospital, where they find the cocaine. Now, he's being charged with a felony.

The difference between who he was and who he turned out to be is startling. And I have to find some way to keep him off my property, while making sure he gets his personal effects, without getting injured.

Not sure what to do or how to do it.

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CaliforniaPeggy

(149,623 posts)
1. That is very disturbing.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 02:45 AM
Dec 2013

I don't have any idea how to handle it either.

Did you have any idea of his drug use history?

I hope someone will come along with some good ideas on how to proceed.

Good luck.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
3. No, I didn't, but (I should have done this before) I paid to get a report on him today.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 02:53 AM
Dec 2013

Cocaine possession--two counts in the past, are on his record. He's obviously got a problem and fell off of the wagon. I can understand and even forgive that. But him knocking the hell out of me? No. AND, the worst of it, telling me he's coming back with a gun and killing me and my family, oh HELL NO. He's got to go. Obviously, he's violent when he's partaking. And I'm not about to start babysitting someone to keep them off of drugs.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
2. call and attorney or local law enforcement
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 02:53 AM
Dec 2013

is your arrangement more of a rent agreement or an employment situation? it might matter if you have to evict him or if you can just get an order of protection (or similar) and then they either escort him to retrieve his property or may have some other options.

of course if he is poor, (and/or non white) and caught with cocaine he may be gone for a long while

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
4. He is poor and non-white.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 02:55 AM
Dec 2013

He's a black male, in his 50's. And we are in a different state than the one he lives in. As I said, we are here visiting my daughter, from another state. He has two felony convictions on his record, for cocaine possession, and I'm not about to bail him out, or help him in any way. I am now officially terrified of him.

I met him a couple of years ago, when he came by my home to ask for work, ie., yard work, etc. I gave him some work and paid him for it. He did a great job, and I found out he was living in a piece of crap little airstream with no running water, stove, air conditioning, etc., so I offered him a place to live on my property. He doesn't pay any rent, just makes himself useful mowing the lawn, or doing odd jobs here and there. He gets social security. Everything is in my name and I pay all the bills for his house and for mine.

Kali

(55,008 posts)
5. I meant local to where your residence is.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 02:57 AM
Dec 2013

daughter might want to get an order of protection as well.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
7. He's going to have a hard time getting back home without me to take him there.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 03:04 AM
Dec 2013

Of course, he'll probably still be getting social security while he's in jail. So that will mount up. He might be able to buy a bus ticket back on his own. That is, if he doesn't go down for a few years on the possession charge. This is his third offense, but I think he had less than 4 grams, which in this state, counts only as a Class Six felony and isn't subject to the repeat offender laws that would triple his time. I think the penalty is eighteen months to four years here.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
6. could you afford to talk to a lawyer at home...
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 03:02 AM
Dec 2013

...about how to manage this there?

While you are visiting your daughter, and because it's where this happened, you could get a restraining order easily, I would wager, and some supervision if he comes around.

But if you find out that he has been released, you might want to also get someone to watch your property at home in case he heads back there while you are still away

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
8. I'm definitely going to have to get someone on my property.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 03:07 AM
Dec 2013

I don't think a restraining order really does much good. I hate guns, but I might have to get one. If he comes on my property, I have no compunctions about putting a bullet or two in him. This is really scary, to think that he can get a gun and come back to kill us.

My daughter lives with a couple of really big guys, and really protective pit bulls. She has a small child, though, and is expecting another baby soon, so she doesn't want a gun in her house, and I don't blame her.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
11. There really is no punchline to this, MrScorpio.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 04:46 PM
Dec 2013

It's just someone who has messed up their life, and is bringing that misery on others. It's a sad state of affairs. We really need to end the war on pot and start using some of the taxes that are levied on it, to pay for treatment for people who are hooked on other drugs. Society would be much the better for it. I don't think anyone chooses to be hooked on drugs, but they get caught up.

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Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
13. I hope you are not implying that I am a liar?
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 05:56 PM
Dec 2013

Because I have a case number from the police department, if you are. Not that I'd publish it here, but I'd give it to you in a pm. Plus, I have no reason to lie. And I am very upset about this. I have lost a friend.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
15. Put his stuff in a storage unit immediately and mail him the key and entry codes.
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 06:39 PM
Dec 2013

Tell him you've paid the first month's rent, taken out an order of protection etc etc.

Don't let him back on the property whatever you do.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
17. The1onein has me on ignore. Please feel free to copy my post
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 11:51 PM
Dec 2013

Add anything else and re-post.

Seriously. Her situation is far beyond internet squabbles.

Thank you.

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