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Good Barbecue is really addicting (Original Post) Arcanetrance Dec 2013 OP
Nope, no BBQ fans here HarveyDarkey Dec 2013 #1
Shame I guess peace shall never be achieved Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #2
Actually I go out my back door to make the best BBQ I know of HarveyDarkey Dec 2013 #4
That has to be a fun job Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #7
It's a rough, thankless job HarveyDarkey Dec 2013 #12
How did you get into it Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #13
Join the KCBS, sign up for a judge's certification class and get started HarveyDarkey Dec 2013 #17
I judge too! Phentex Dec 2013 #27
My favorite is Texas BBQ Brisket OriginalGeek Dec 2013 #3
Since I moved to Texas brisket is about the only thing I get Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #5
one of my first ever jobs in High School was a BBQ joint OriginalGeek Dec 2013 #9
Lol I think it's that way in all food establisments Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #11
I make it myself. Chan790 Dec 2013 #6
I have a smoker coming for my bday/xmas Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #10
My Grandpa recently bought me a Char-griller OriginalGeek Dec 2013 #14
I live in the Panhandle of Texas blogslut Dec 2013 #8
I've lived in Texas for like 6 months so I guess it still is awesome how plentiful it is here Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #15
Yeah blogslut Dec 2013 #16
Being normal is overrated Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #18
What you call good BBQ, is what they sell in the grocery store here... Javaman Dec 2013 #19
I moved to Texas 6 months ago Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #23
Very cool. Then you know. ;) Javaman Dec 2013 #31
Yep Texas bbq I think is what made me truly love bbq Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #32
Now you've done it.. sendero Dec 2013 #36
You are correct in that doing it right is not easy Major Nikon Dec 2013 #46
Get our meat at Swingle's in Jackson CA blueamy66 Dec 2013 #20
Oakland! KamaAina Dec 2013 #21
The Shack, way out in the middle on nowhere in Bodunk, Alabama. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #22
There was a *really* good joint in Rockwall/Rowlett, TX that had some great stuff. AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #24
The only BBQ I like is my own mainer Dec 2013 #25
That sounds delicious Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #26
I DO crave it! Phentex Dec 2013 #28
The little hole in the wall places are the best Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #29
BURNT ENDS! PassingFair Dec 2013 #30
I see the Jets logo. Any recommendations in north Jersey? badtoworse Dec 2013 #33
To be honest in northern jersey I went to more Portuguese bbq type places and had traditional bbq Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #38
A number of years ago, I did Seabras in the Ironbound - excellent then. badtoworse Dec 2013 #39
Fernandes on Fleming in Newark Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #41
Just checked out their menu - looks great and thanks. badtoworse Dec 2013 #45
My son has just been introduced to... Wait Wut Dec 2013 #34
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but... KamaAina Dec 2013 #35
I've learned in a very short period of time... Wait Wut Dec 2013 #37
Hickory Hollow is probably my favorite - TBF Dec 2013 #40
I have my own smoker Major Nikon Dec 2013 #42
DH has a homemade smoker, thanks to my nagging. mopinko Dec 2013 #43
Used to get it at Arthur Bryant's in KC flying rabbit Dec 2013 #44
Martin City Smokestack! lastlib Dec 2013 #47
What do you get when you go Arcanetrance Dec 2013 #48
 

HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
4. Actually I go out my back door to make the best BBQ I know of
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:39 PM
Dec 2013

I've been a certified BBQ judge for 14 years, so I much prefer the competition BBQ. Commercial joints are OK, but the competition fare is the best, although the competitors will never refer to their food as fare.

 

HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
17. Join the KCBS, sign up for a judge's certification class and get started
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:57 PM
Dec 2013

Was a member of KCBS for several years before starting to judge.
At that time classes were few and far between, they're everywhere now.
I took my class in Tullahoma, TN the day before the Jack Daniels International Invitational BBQ Championship in 1999.


http://www.kcbs.us/

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
3. My favorite is Texas BBQ Brisket
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:38 PM
Dec 2013

but I've learned to like the pulled pork here in the east.

Especially when my wife's Georgia cousins call us up and say "Hog's in the ground!" We have a day or two to get there for the pullin' and the eatin'.

Outside of home cooked in Georgian the only great places are non-chain, family owned joints. Sonny's huge here in FLorida and they are remarkably average. Not terrible but so underwhelming for the impression you;d get from their advertising. Smokey Bones is another just like Sonny's. Ok but nothing I'd brag about.

Cecil's in Orlando is real nice Texas style brisket complete with hot beans and white bread. Bubbalou's Bodacious BBQ is the best pig around (that I've had anyway). Their hot sauce actually has some heat in it.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
9. one of my first ever jobs in High School was a BBQ joint
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:42 PM
Dec 2013

in Duncanville, TX. I miss that place every day. But back then we would routinely trade food with the Jack In The Box next door. God we were stupid! lol

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
6. I make it myself.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:40 PM
Dec 2013

It's too easy and cheap not to. Really. You can make yourself a smoker at home (albeit an absolute POS) for under $100. Beyond that, it's just another recipe to learn. The cost of the rub obviously depends what you use...but pork shoulder is cheap. Time it right and you can get one at Safeway for under $2/lb.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
14. My Grandpa recently bought me a Char-griller
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:45 PM
Dec 2013

dual side grill - one side gas and one side charcoal but the cool part is there is a bolt-on smoke box you can add to the charcoal side to make it a smoker. I haven't yet but I can't wait to start trying some pork shoulders and briskets in that sucker.

blogslut

(38,000 posts)
16. Yeah
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:54 PM
Dec 2013

My BIL does nice barbeque and I get that about once a year, which is enough for me. I like smoked brisket but I can do without the whole treatment of beans, potato salad and cornbread. I don't hate that stuff, I just don't crave it.

But then, I never was a normal West Texan.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
18. Being normal is overrated
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:58 PM
Dec 2013

I can definitely do without cornbread I'm not a huge fan of it. I do like potato salad in small doses, and the beans I could take or leave.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
19. What you call good BBQ, is what they sell in the grocery store here...
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 01:25 PM
Dec 2013

Come to Texas and I will have some GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD BBQ.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
32. Yep Texas bbq I think is what made me truly love bbq
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:27 PM
Dec 2013

Before I tried it I liked bbq okay but wasn't a huge fan. The only bbq I usually got was North Carolina when visiting a friend down there and it doesn't compare to Texas bbq.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
36. Now you've done it..
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:15 PM
Dec 2013

... .you can never go back to NC now!

I live in far north TX and the closest restaurant to my house in the boonies is a BBQ joint. Family run place, decent BBQ.

I've smoked a brisket a couple of times but in neither case was I particularly proud of the results. Doing it right is not easy.

When I eat BBQ out I find that many places are pretty similar, with average brisket (usually on the dry side), and that the distinguishing feature is often the sides. Some make good BBQ beans and others make glorified pork'n'beans using pintos, not edible. Potato salad, almost a must is easy to ruin with too much sweet pickle juice and the like. And likewise the sauce. The good places have at least 2, a spicy and a mild, and the others have one nasty catsup/brown-sugar mess. Ugh.

Now I am hungry for some BBQ but there is an inch of ice on the road and I'n not going anywhere

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
46. You are correct in that doing it right is not easy
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 03:03 PM
Dec 2013

There is also quite a bit of attention to detail involved, which is why homemade BBQ done right is superior to commercial BBQ. One of my co-workers attends around 20 BBQ cook-offs per year, including some of the big ones here in Texas, and generally places in the top 3 every time he goes. I've learned a lot about really good BBQ from him. The reason why most of the commercial stuff is on the dry side is because they are either not pulling it off the pit at the right time, or they are leaving it in a warm environment (must be > 140F or they run afoul of health inspectors) for too long until it's served.

You might try smoking whole pork shoulder roasts or Boston butts if you can find them. I've found them to be a bit more forgiving than brisket.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
20. Get our meat at Swingle's in Jackson CA
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 01:32 PM
Dec 2013

BF marinates it and ones it. We both mske the sauce.

Pulled pork is my favorite.

Yummy.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
21. Oakland!
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 01:50 PM
Dec 2013

The place I went to happened to be right down the street from a budget demo I went to. I can't remember the name, and it appears to have changed.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
22. The Shack, way out in the middle on nowhere in Bodunk, Alabama.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:22 PM
Dec 2013

So tender it melts in your mouth. Good basic slaw, biscuits, pintos (nothing fancy) and corn on the cob. Good eating.

Also, good variety of sauces.

Vinegar base and/or Tomato base. Both in Hot, Medium or Mild.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
24. There was a *really* good joint in Rockwall/Rowlett, TX that had some great stuff.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 03:44 PM
Dec 2013

I forget the name of it, but it wasn't Sammy Walker's I don't think....it was awesome, though.

Also, the Rudy's chain offers some good stuff; their brisket is to die for paired with their sauce.....

mainer

(12,022 posts)
25. The only BBQ I like is my own
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 03:47 PM
Dec 2013

Most joints I've been to make it far too sloppy and sweet.

I have a great Mexican-based recipe for pork baby back ribs, dry rubbed with chili powder and cumin, then glazed while on the grill with a super-spicy honey/lime/garlic/tabasco/jalapeno sauce.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
28. I DO crave it!
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 05:30 PM
Dec 2013

especially when I haven't had any in a while. I like to try new places but my faves are the little hole in the wall joints spotted when I'm not really looking for them.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
38. To be honest in northern jersey I went to more Portuguese bbq type places and had traditional bbq
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:27 PM
Dec 2013

In NYC. If you're in the city I recommend either hometown bbq in Brooklyn or if you're in Manhattan hill country barbecue market. If you want the name of he Portuguese places tho I will share them

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
34. My son has just been introduced to...
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:09 PM
Dec 2013

...the Kansas City, MO BBQ battles. He said that three different people in as many days told him about the 'best' bbq in KCMO. All three were different places. So, he decided to check online...it got worse. Apparently, there is no such thing as the 'best' bbq in KCMO. He makes his own, so he's looking forward to spring/summer when the local battles start. He had to leave his smoker behind when he moved, though. Has plans to build his own, but it won't be for a couple of years. His BBQ sauce has a subtle Asian flavor, thanks to his wife. He started experimenting with more citrusy flavors before he moved.

I'm in AZ, so I go to my cabinet and pull out a bag of JD marinade and some JD bbq sauce, find something to marinade/bbq and have a messy/awesome dinner at home. I also make my own Asian BBQ sauce.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
35. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but...
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:11 PM
Dec 2013

there's also a contender across the state line in Kansas City, Kansas. It's called Oklahoma Joe's and is housed in a converted gas station!

Also, Asian BBQ is hardly an oxymoron. Koreans have their own style, featuring bul go gi (beef) and kal bi (ribs).

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
37. I've learned in a very short period of time...
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 06:19 PM
Dec 2013

...that everything KCKS sucks. That valuable piece of info has come from the people of KCMO.

Seriously, I'm surprised there hasn't been a war...

And, I grew up on Asian BBQ (Chicago), though I have yet to try Korean. I've heard it's amazing. My (Okinawan) DIL loves it as does my (Chicagoan) son. Alas, Arizona is not the hotbed of Asian cuisine, so I'll have to wait. I do have to say that Asian style is my favorite.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
42. I have my own smoker
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 07:33 PM
Dec 2013

It's a Smokintex model 1100 electric smoker. It's basically as easy to operate as an oven. Put the food and wood in, slap a temperature probe in, set to desired temperature, and remove food when done. It also works as a cold smoker and a jerkey dryer if you have the right accessories.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
43. DH has a homemade smoker, thanks to my nagging.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 09:33 PM
Dec 2013

we had a smoked turkey for turkey day. it's a crazy little thing.
but this being chicago, good bbq grows on trees.
i can literally walk to great texas bbq. or grub hub all day long.

lastlib

(23,233 posts)
47. Martin City Smokestack!
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 05:15 PM
Dec 2013

Best barbecue in Kansas City, and we are famous for it!

Gates, Arthur Bryant's, Oklahoma Joe's, Smokestack (noted above, aka Jackstack), yumyum--can't be beat!

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