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NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:35 PM Feb 2014

Just got a call from the vet. Kitty has chronic kidney disease.

She's 14 years old, and I've had her since I was in sixth grade, so I'm not shocked that she finally started getting sick, but it's still a way to ruin a day.

I'm heading in to pick up some medicine and special food from the vet in the morning, but do any DUers have experience with this? I'm open to suggestions and advice.

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Just got a call from the vet. Kitty has chronic kidney disease. (Original Post) NuclearDem Feb 2014 OP
She'll appreciate your love and care, no matter what. CurtEastPoint Feb 2014 #1
Thanks for the thoughts. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #3
Good. I have one who LOVES the little flea comb on his face. The rest... meh! CurtEastPoint Feb 2014 #5
We've had this happen to several cats. It's common. onehandle Feb 2014 #2
I've got plenty of practice giving cats medicine, so that shouldn't be too hard. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #4
if you have to do sub cu fluids- warm the bag first by dunking it in a sink of hot water, hang it bettyellen Feb 2014 #11
Been awhile Feral Child Feb 2014 #6
500 milliliters is an giant, enormous amount anasv Feb 2014 #13
Sorry. Feral Child Feb 2014 #25
Sorry to hear this...is it chronic renal failure? joeybee12 Feb 2014 #7
{{{{hugs}}}} shenmue Feb 2014 #8
My daughter has a cat with this, and she'll be 20 in April. hamsterjill Feb 2014 #9
You've given your kitty many happy years My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #10
she can live for years with this if it is not severe anasv Feb 2014 #12
+1 Blue Owl Feb 2014 #16
Yes, I used to warm up the bag by floating it in sink of warm water for awhile before Arugula Latte Feb 2014 #24
Sorry to hear that davidpdx Feb 2014 #14
Do the renal injections Blue Owl Feb 2014 #15
She'll probably be with you a while yet spinbaby Feb 2014 #17
Vet says she hasn't progressed to the stage where sub-cutaneous is necessary. NuclearDem Feb 2014 #19
I've had cats with kidney disease - LiberalElite Feb 2014 #18
Azodyl GoCubsGo Feb 2014 #20
Wife and I will keep sending out healing thoughts to your kitty. diabeticman Feb 2014 #21
I'm dealing with this disease with one of my cats too TuxedoKat Feb 2014 #22
my best to you and your kitty fizzgig Feb 2014 #23

CurtEastPoint

(18,663 posts)
1. She'll appreciate your love and care, no matter what.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:53 PM
Feb 2014

And when the time may come, you will know and she will love you still. I know, as I've been through it, too. My warmest thoughts to you and Kitty.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
2. We've had this happen to several cats. It's common.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 06:01 PM
Feb 2014

She probably won't like the food. Eventually you will have to inject subcutaneous fluids. If you've never done it before, it's unnerving to do at first, but you'll get used to doing it. The cat won't feel the needle, but won't like being held while you inject the fluid.

We've kept them going for a couple of years after diagnosis. It ain't pretty, but it's doable. And they will stay mostly happy.

Sorry for your kitty.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
4. I've got plenty of practice giving cats medicine, so that shouldn't be too hard.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 06:05 PM
Feb 2014

Glad to hear this isn't necessarily a death sentence. We'll do everything we can.

Thanks!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
11. if you have to do sub cu fluids- warm the bag first by dunking it in a sink of hot water, hang it
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 06:57 PM
Feb 2014

high to max out the gravity when it's very full. when it gets less than 1/2 full you can squeeze it (under your arm) to get the fluid going faster. If you use warm water, the cat may actually learn to like the whole thing because they feel so much better afterwards.

Saline bags and Terumo titanium needles (finer needle for same flow rate) can be ordered online for 1/4- 1/10 the cost at the vetenarian's office.

My cat had total kidney failure and thrived another 10 years on Feline KD food. She hated it so the first month I had to add it to her regular food, one little spoon at a time. She had no symptoms for many years, no need for fluids or anything.
Good luck!

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
6. Been awhile
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 06:10 PM
Feb 2014

but I've had three w/ CRF (Chronic Renal Failure). It's not uncommon in older cats.

If I remember correctly, I had to infuse 500 milliliters Ringer's Lactate subcutaneously daily, + medication.

A bit tedious, the saline solution has to be warmed to near body temperature or you risk hypothermia, then the drip has to be adjusted carefully so that it feeds in steadily but slowly. The cat develops a "pillow" on the shoulder-yoke that dissipates over an hour or so.

I had one cat live 1.5 happy years. I can't remember longevity for the others.

This is old information and there may be other therapies now.

 

anasv

(225 posts)
13. 500 milliliters is an giant, enormous amount
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:13 PM
Feb 2014

I think that would stress the heart. Normally one might start out with 50 a day, maybe 100 a day. The vet can tell the OP.

i think you must be mistaken thinking it was 500 ml.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
7. Sorry to hear this...is it chronic renal failure?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 06:15 PM
Feb 2014

If so, kitty can have a few more good years with treatment...if so, ask your vet about giving the kitty sub-q fluids...I've done it on 3 so far, and it really does help. I had no luck with special food...mine were too spoiled. Good luck.

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
9. My daughter has a cat with this, and she'll be 20 in April.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 06:24 PM
Feb 2014
Obviously, every situation is different.

This kitty was diagnosed relatively early in her disease. She's not yet ever had to have sub q fluids, but we know that's a possibility if it comes to that.

She has been on a medication called "lotensin" (benzapril is another name for it, I believe).

She does not eat special food, only because she would NOT ever eat it. She eats a prescription diet, but it is not specific for kidney issues.

I wish and your cat the very best of luck, and most of all, I thank you for taking such good care of her!!!



My Good Babushka

(2,710 posts)
10. You've given your kitty many happy years
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 06:25 PM
Feb 2014

and I'm sure she loves you. She will be comforted by you no matter what, I'm sure.

 

anasv

(225 posts)
12. she can live for years with this if it is not severe
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:10 PM
Feb 2014

Do note the suggestions to be sure the fluid is a comfortably warm, not cold or too hot temperature. Test it on your inner wrist like for a baby.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
24. Yes, I used to warm up the bag by floating it in sink of warm water for awhile before
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:15 PM
Feb 2014

administering the sub-Q fluids. You can also put it on your heater vent in colder months.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
14. Sorry to hear that
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:37 PM
Feb 2014

I'd be interested in hearing more after you talk to the vet. My cats aren't that old yet, but I suppose it's always possible down the road as they get older.

Blue Owl

(50,498 posts)
15. Do the renal injections
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 09:08 PM
Feb 2014

I got 2-3 more years out of my first kitty who had renal failure -- just gotta get used to the I.V. Procedure and you're good to go...

spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
17. She'll probably be with you a while yet
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 09:11 PM
Feb 2014

We've lost many cats to renal failure. It's a lingering disease that will leave your cat thirsty and peeing a lot. She may start peeing outside the litter box. She'll lose weight and become lethargic but won't be in pain.

Things we've learned:

Subcutaneous fluids help with the chronic dehydration associated with failing kidneys and make the cat more comfortable, but in our experience don't seem to prolong lifespan much.

Put out lots of bowls of water and change them often. Ice cubes are appreciated.

Many of our cats developed an obsession with butter when they had failing kidneys. I think they needed the energy in the fat.

When your cat becomes unreliable about where she pees, puppy pads are helpful.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
19. Vet says she hasn't progressed to the stage where sub-cutaneous is necessary.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:20 PM
Feb 2014

I'd never considered the puppy pads though. That might be worth a shot.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
18. I've had cats with kidney disease -
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:05 PM
Feb 2014

It's possible for a cat to live for years with kidney disease (if it's treated).
I found this to be a helpful website: http://www.felinecrf.com/

GoCubsGo

(32,089 posts)
20. Azodyl
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:26 PM
Feb 2014

Azodyl is a probiotic that slows down the uremic toxins build-up. It has no side-effects, and can be bought over the counter. Your vet may carry it. My handsome boy was nearly 15 when he was diagnosed with CRF. The Azodyl gave him another year.

You might also want to consider a pet drinking fountain, such as a Drinkwell. That may encourage your cat to drink more water.

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
22. I'm dealing with this disease with one of my cats too
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 01:12 AM
Feb 2014

He is 18 and was diagnosed last year. There is a lot to learn about this disease and I have been trying to educate myself as much as possible because my cat has recently developed high blood pressure and anemia too, which sometimes happens with feline CRF kitties. I will PM you some info because it is too much to write here but if anyone else reads this and wants to know the protocol (medicines, supplements, etc.) that I'm doing for my cat, PM me.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
23. my best to you and your kitty
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 02:13 AM
Feb 2014

one of my girls may have early stage kidney disease, but we're not sure yet. i've switched her food and we're going back to the vet in a few months and should know more then. she's about 13 and has been with me for eight years, but she's the first cat i've had on my own, so it feels a bit more stressful.

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