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Coventina

(27,172 posts)
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:33 AM Jul 2014

Went to a MLB game yesterday (warning! Grump ahead!)

So, I was taught, and all my etiquette books say that women are exempted from the "hat removal" rule for the national anthem.
Yet, the PA announcer says, "Ladies and gentlemen, please stand and remove your hats...."

What's up with that?
And yes, I had a hat, and no, I didn't remove it. Am I suddenly not patriotic now?

Secondly, during the "7th Inning Stretch" we were told to stand for "America the Beautiful"!?!?!?

Americans stand for TWO songs: the National Anthem and Handel's "Hallelujah Chorus" that's IT!
I went to the restroom (I had to go anyway). Since when do we stand for "America the Beautiful"?
I'm not gonna do it!!!
It only cheapens the significance of standing for the National Anthem!



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Went to a MLB game yesterday (warning! Grump ahead!) (Original Post) Coventina Jul 2014 OP
I don't like to stand for any of it, especially prayers. Kali Jul 2014 #1
Well, thank God (hahaha!) there were no prayers at the game. Coventina Jul 2014 #2
ha! Kali Jul 2014 #4
Fans were encouraged to come in costume. There was a costume parade, and a costume contest. Coventina Jul 2014 #5
"God Bless America" during the stretch is usually the time Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #3
Is this a "thing" now that all MLB games do? Coventina Jul 2014 #6
"God Bless America" has been a part of baseball since Sept. 17, 2001 Blue_Tires Jul 2014 #7
Huh, I guess I haven't been to any games since then! Coventina Jul 2014 #9
What? "No Take Me Out to the Ballgame"? amandabeech Jul 2014 #16
At Nationals Park (Wash DC), they play Take me out... during the stretch, but on Sundays and FSogol Jul 2014 #20
That sounds okay for holidays. amandabeech Jul 2014 #23
Kinda ugly on the outside*, but the inside is a real comfortable place to watch a game. FSogol Jul 2014 #24
Thanks for the info! amandabeech Jul 2014 #25
We stand for the Hallelujah Chorus? Sheldon Cooper Jul 2014 #8
Interesting! I've never been to a performance where it wasn't done. Coventina Jul 2014 #10
The story goes that LibertyLover Jul 2014 #14
What happened to "Take me out to the Ballgame"? hedgehog Jul 2014 #11
I think that they might have sung it after "America the Beautiful" Coventina Jul 2014 #12
And let's not even talk about the Designated Hitter... malthaussen Jul 2014 #13
I went to a Norfolk Tides game on Saturday and they played "God Bless America" alarimer Jul 2014 #15
I was happily surprised that the USGA Senior Open did not have the 17th green CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #17
It's been a few decades LWolf Jul 2014 #18
Is 'cammo'' your national color? CanSocDem Jul 2014 #19
'Green' is our national color. Every special uniform tweak means marketing opportunities. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2014 #29
You shouldn't waste your time and money on MLB. Find a Peewee or a minor league game. A Simple Game Jul 2014 #21
I'm married to a die-hard Cubs fan. Coventina Jul 2014 #22
Don't care for the "God shed his grace on thee" either rurallib Jul 2014 #26
I love baseball locks Jul 2014 #27
Why the hell is the national anthem still played before sporting events? Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #28

Kali

(55,019 posts)
1. I don't like to stand for any of it, especially prayers.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:37 AM
Jul 2014

(I do it sometimes as to not offend others, but I resent it and sometimes do not stand)

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
2. Well, thank God (hahaha!) there were no prayers at the game.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:39 AM
Jul 2014

Actually it was "Star Wars" day at the game.
Would have been interesting to mix in a prayer to the Force!

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
5. Fans were encouraged to come in costume. There was a costume parade, and a costume contest.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:46 AM
Jul 2014

They played bits of the soundtrack during the game, and the photos of the players as they were at bat were photoshopped into costume, which was pretty funny at times.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
3. "God Bless America" during the stretch is usually the time
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:42 AM
Jul 2014

I make a run for the can and/or snack bar...

But typically, since it's the 7th inning stretch, most of the ballpark is already standing, so I usually hear "Please remain standing..."

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
9. Huh, I guess I haven't been to any games since then!
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:54 AM
Jul 2014

I've been to spring training games.
They don't do it there.

(not a sports fan)

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
16. What? "No Take Me Out to the Ballgame"?
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 02:34 PM
Jul 2014

I remember Harry Carrie leading the crowd in that song at both Old Comiskey and Wrigley fields.

Harry must be rolling over in his grave!

One patriotic song is plenty.

FSogol

(45,526 posts)
20. At Nationals Park (Wash DC), they play Take me out... during the stretch, but on Sundays and
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 04:56 PM
Jul 2014

Holidays (4th, Memorial Day, etc) they also play God Bless America. Perfect time to hit the beer vendor for last call.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
23. That sounds okay for holidays.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 05:53 PM
Jul 2014

How do you like the park? I'm back in the area and figure that I should go over there once the weather cools off.

FSogol

(45,526 posts)
24. Kinda ugly on the outside*, but the inside is a real comfortable place to watch a game.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 06:32 PM
Jul 2014

* partially due to 1/2 of the surrounding neighborhood being giant holes in the ground for future construction sites.

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
10. Interesting! I've never been to a performance where it wasn't done.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:57 AM
Jul 2014

I thought of you yesterday (as the character) during the costume parade!

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
14. The story goes that
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jul 2014

at the 1743 introductory performance of The Messiah in London George II stood when the opening bars of the Hallelujah Chorus were played and everyone in the theater was obliged to stand as well. But there is nothing to back that up sadly. Another story I heard about standing was that Prince Albert heard the opening bars and thought it was the national anthem, so he stood. Again, nothing to back it up - just cute stories. But yeah, any performance I've been in, to or watched on tv, the audience has stood for the Hallelujah Chorus. It's a fun tradition.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
11. What happened to "Take me out to the Ballgame"?
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:57 AM
Jul 2014

I have to say, something bad happened when baseball moved from summer afternoons to week-end night games. And don't get me started on replacing the pennant race with play-offs!

Baseball is not football lite, and it's been on a downhill slide ever since that became the management model.

Baseball is not meant for big screen color tv with instant replay; it's meant to be listened to on transistor radios in vegetable gardens or front porches by retire guys and grandchildren. The World Series is meant to be heard surreptitiously by kids hiding radios in their school desks.

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
12. I think that they might have sung it after "America the Beautiful"
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 11:31 AM
Jul 2014

but I was in the restroom by then.

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
13. And let's not even talk about the Designated Hitter...
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 11:44 AM
Jul 2014

Thank Whoever the NL doesn't have that, or the SF Giants would be out two Grand Slams this year.

-- Mal

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
15. I went to a Norfolk Tides game on Saturday and they played "God Bless America"
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 01:07 PM
Jul 2014

And some flag-waving troop-praising in the bargain.

I call that the "Seventh Inning RETCH"

I stayed in my seat. Fuck that faux-patriotic bullshit. It's just so the people who never served can feel good about their pathetic selves.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
17. I was happily surprised that the USGA Senior Open did not have the 17th green
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jul 2014

flag stick adorned with a US flag so they could hand it to some marine and we could all act like this here golf is some really solemn shit like they do on the PGA now. Jingoism makes sports even MORE of a turnoff for me.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
18. It's been a few decades
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 04:27 PM
Jul 2014

since I went to a major league baseball game, but my son is a regular, and he hasn't reported anything like this.

I stand for the pledge of allegiance every day at work. I don't put my hand over my heart. I don't say it. But then, I'm not patriotic.

I don't wear hats in the building. There's a rule, so I honor it. I also have to enforce it, and that enforcement is gender neutral.

Edited to add: I'd be happy if they just got rid of the "no hats inside" rule, because I don't really care and I get sick of having to be the hat enforcer, among the many other parts of my job.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
21. You shouldn't waste your time and money on MLB. Find a Peewee or a minor league game.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 05:33 PM
Jul 2014

Much more exciting and fun. Same with basketball and football.

But the peak of entertainment has to be a T-ball game.

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
22. I'm married to a die-hard Cubs fan.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 05:38 PM
Jul 2014

Usually, he goes with his childhood friend (they're both from Chicago), but this time the buddy couldn't make it.

On the plus side, I've improved my scoring skills!

My scorecard could probably be understood by an outside party now!

rurallib

(62,448 posts)
26. Don't care for the "God shed his grace on thee" either
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 09:03 PM
Jul 2014

I quit going to baseball games about 10 years ago. Baseball just sucks any more.

BTW for you whipper-snappers, Bill Veeck (owner of the White Sox at the time) kind of invented all this 7th inning foofarah. Back @ 1974, Veeck snuck the PA mic into the announcing booth to catch Harry Caray singing "TRake me out to the Ball game" to himself during the 7th inning stretch. KaBoom a tradition was born.

Prior to that the 7th inning stretch was quite quiet.

When Caray went to the Cubs with the superstation, they really pushed that 7th inning singing.

locks

(2,012 posts)
27. I love baseball
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:15 PM
Jul 2014

mostly of course when our guys are winning. I guess I like it because I understand it most of the time and the players usually don't try to kill each other as in football and hockey. I like to pretend that the players are all good guys who play fair, love the game and their teammates, and not just the millions they are making.

I like the 7th inning stretch, Take Me Out to the Ballgame, Hey Baby, Sweet Caroline, but I can't pretend to like God Bless America. Had enough of that false patriotism in WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan.
I hope the kids in Little League will ask their baseball heroes why we ask God to bless our country so that we can kill our neighbors.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
28. Why the hell is the national anthem still played before sporting events?
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 10:38 PM
Jul 2014

I always get a weird "1984" vibe out of it. Gives me the creeps...Forced jingoism/nationalism for no apparent reason -- yech.

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