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raccoon

(31,111 posts)
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 06:10 AM Aug 2014

"The old Kansas myth. Every farmer with a good spread is supposed to have a hidden black box

somewhere filled with money."

The Alvin Dewey character says this in the movie IN COLD BLOOD.

Anyone ever hear of this "old myth" in regard to Kansas, or any other state?

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"The old Kansas myth. Every farmer with a good spread is supposed to have a hidden black box (Original Post) raccoon Aug 2014 OP
I thought that was just something he said to convince the other guy to commit robbery alphafemale Aug 2014 #1
Huh?? nt raccoon Aug 2014 #2
Been awhile since I had seen the movie. alphafemale Aug 2014 #3
Dewey was the Kansas state detective who worked the Clutter murders. Paladin Aug 2014 #10
I've never heard the myth outside of the context of the movie, but I can see how such a myth could.. JVS Aug 2014 #4
nope Kali Aug 2014 #11
That sort of thing is probably where the idea got started. raccoon Sep 2014 #12
They are farmers, not leprechauns Generic Brad Aug 2014 #5
"Secondhand Lions" panader0 Aug 2014 #6
Well, it was a myth . . . Brigid Aug 2014 #7
Saw it in the movie when I was a kid The Second Stone Aug 2014 #8
Farmers wish they did. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2014 #9
 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
1. I thought that was just something he said to convince the other guy to commit robbery
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 06:35 AM
Aug 2014

And that Dewey intended on murdering the family from the beginning.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
10. Dewey was the Kansas state detective who worked the Clutter murders.
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 04:02 PM
Aug 2014

A prisoner informed one of the "In Cold Blood" killers that he had worked on Herb Clutter's big farm, and that lots of money was constantly involved in keeping operations going. From there, the notion of a "little back box" took root. In fact, Clutter never kept cash on hand; he even paid for $1.50 hair cuts by check. After murdering the Clutter family, the two killers made off with a little over $40.00.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
4. I've never heard the myth outside of the context of the movie, but I can see how such a myth could..
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 08:18 AM
Aug 2014

Last edited Mon Sep 1, 2014, 11:38 AM - Edit history (1)

develop.

A farm is a business and especially in the days before credit cards it would behoove a farmer to keep a sizable stash of cash on hand to pay for expenses as they come up. Lots of stuff that breaks, needs to be fixed, needs to be fueled, people who need to be paid for some kind of service, deliveries that get made, etc. While I'd imagine that a lot of these things can be billed, there are probably circumstances where having cash is quicker and easier.



Personal experience with this: In late August, right before harvest one summer my family was visiting some friends who owned a farm. My mom had grown up with the the farmer's wife. So as the grownups sat and talked, us kids went off to play. At one point we were in the basement and in one corner of the basement was a desk. In the center of all kinds of bills and paperwork was a stack of $100 bills about 3 inches thick.

Kali

(55,013 posts)
11. nope
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 05:12 PM
Aug 2014

most run credit at the places they do business and pay at harvest or fall sales.

cash might be used to pay day labor or something but business expenses are usually paid by check

raccoon

(31,111 posts)
12. That sort of thing is probably where the idea got started.
Mon Sep 1, 2014, 08:16 AM
Sep 2014

Thanks for sharing your experience.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
8. Saw it in the movie when I was a kid
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 01:43 PM
Aug 2014

My social studies teacher showed us the movie. I've been paranoid ever since.

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