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tavernier

(12,389 posts)
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 09:40 PM Dec 2014

OMG, dad has been in a a hospice respite wing

for three weeks, unconconscious. Three days is is the max, but he can't be transferred home in his condition. He is 92 and his heart is rock strong because he walked a mile every day.

But he is riddled with cancer.

We shoot horses, but we allow our loved ones and their families to suffer.



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OMG, dad has been in a a hospice respite wing (Original Post) tavernier Dec 2014 OP
Require not allow. Downwinder Dec 2014 #1
Huh? tavernier Dec 2014 #3
No, we require our loved ones and their families to suffer. Downwinder Dec 2014 #7
How dreadful for all of you... CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2014 #2
His wife can't care for him tavernier Dec 2014 #5
I am so sorry. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #4
so very sorry, tavernier, KMOD Dec 2014 #6
My sincere condolences,-- I wish him peace. easychoice Dec 2014 #8
Thanks to all of you tavernier Dec 2014 #9
My thoughts will be with you csziggy Dec 2014 #10
So sorry for what you're going through CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #11
In July of 2013 a new ant-hospice provision took place. NCarolinawoman Dec 2014 #12
My heart goes out to you and your dad tavernier. lovemydog Dec 2014 #13
So sorry..... a kennedy Dec 2014 #14
Very sorry, tavernier. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #15
I've been through hospice GreatGazoo Dec 2014 #16
sending much love to you, your dad, and your entire family orleans Dec 2014 #17
Hmmmm....Hospice care has been known to withdraw all nutrition. I know this first-hand. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #18
Dad passed away this afternoon. tavernier Dec 2014 #19
I'm so sorry Beaverhausen Dec 2014 #20
I am so very sorry. bigwillq Dec 2014 #21
I wish you and your family peace, tavernier. KMOD Dec 2014 #25
My deepest condolences. It's never easy. nt MADem Dec 2014 #28
So sorry UglyGreed Dec 2014 #29
I am so, so sorry. Still Blue in PDX Dec 2014 #22
Peace to you Tavenier and your family. Heartful sympathies. nt Fla Dem Dec 2014 #23
Blessings and peace. vanlassie Dec 2014 #24
Vibes to your family. applegrove Dec 2014 #26
I am so sorry for your loss, tavernier. mnhtnbb Dec 2014 #27
My sympathies. hamsterjill Dec 2014 #30
... progressoid Dec 2014 #31
tavernier irisblue Dec 2014 #32
I have no way to adequately thank you tavernier Dec 2014 #33

tavernier

(12,389 posts)
5. His wife can't care for him
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:07 PM
Dec 2014

and a nursing home won't take him since he is "imminent".

No, they are kind to keep him, wonderful facility, but even the docs are amazed how long he lingers.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
4. I am so sorry.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:00 PM
Dec 2014

I went through this with a friend of mine and it took a week because he was still phsical strong but he was dying of brain cancer.

They gave my friend lots of morphine.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
6. so very sorry, tavernier,
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:07 PM
Dec 2014

I went through this with my father-in-law last year.

I'll keep you in my thoughts.

tavernier

(12,389 posts)
9. Thanks to all of you
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:17 PM
Dec 2014

Dad is 92...

Bottom line, when you hit this age and have prostate and bone cancer, Stop Walking and Working Out... Your heart will be strong as an ox, and you will die slowly.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
10. My thoughts will be with you
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:10 PM
Dec 2014

We went through similar with my Dad August 2013. Dad was 90, had a catastrophic event that left him brain damaged and unaware. We put him in hospice thinking it would only be a day or two. He lasted a week. He'd always thought his heart would take him out - both his parents died of heart related problems. He heart was what kept him going.

No matter what your choices, it's heard. I'll be sending good thoughts your way.

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
11. So sorry for what you're going through
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:26 PM
Dec 2014

Your words certainly struck a familiar chord. You're undoubtedly exhausted, physically and emotionally. I know the similar situations I've been through have been the most draining experiences of my life.

It's not going to be much longer. I hope when this is over you will get lots of rest and stay far away from anything resembling a hospital for a good long while. Believe me, it will do you a world of good.

Wishing your Dad a peaceful passage and healing vibes for you and your family.

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
12. In July of 2013 a new ant-hospice provision took place.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 12:39 AM
Dec 2014

They took out the Failure to Thrive provision. FTT provided hospice care to be for a term of 6 months. You could even graduate and then later be put back on for another 6 months as long as the care was just palliative--no feeding tubes, surgeries, antibiotics for pneumonia, etc.

My Mom was on hospice for 5 months ( at home) . Her heart was failing and she had mal-absorption. She was 87 and didn't want to go back to the hospital for surgeries, etc. She hardly ate anything. She had little sense of thirst, which is not uncommon when the body is preparing to die. She was awake and cheerful but to the eye, she was wasting away. One morning she informed me that she wanted nothing to eat or drink--just wanted to listen to her favorite music. She passed away that evening, peacefully. There was never any pressure for her to die faster--back in 2005.

Oh, at the same time that Failure to Thrive was taken away, the salaries of home health care nurses was cut. This was all during the wheeling and dealing of 2009 between Dems and Repubs.
These cuts were to be done in increments, so no one would notice, I guess.

So they have been sending many people home from hospice care because they can't figure out exactly the time they will die.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
13. My heart goes out to you and your dad tavernier.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:02 AM
Dec 2014

May he have a safe and peaceful passage.

My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Still Blue in PDX

(1,999 posts)
22. I am so, so sorry.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 09:37 PM
Dec 2014

I think the only thing worse than the actual loss of a family member is when you are waiting and just want it over. So many painful and conflicting emotions.

tavernier

(12,389 posts)
33. I have no way to adequately thank you
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 09:50 PM
Dec 2014

for your kind words.

My original post was written out of frustration; I hated that we didn't have any other recourse but to watch him struggle and die. I still think that we shouldn't prolong the death of our loved ones.

But having said that, the hospice team kept him pain free and comfortable until the end.

Thank you to everyone who posted prayers and kind wishes. Your words made it easier for me and I love appreciate you all.

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