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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsWhy I love Coen brothers movies so much.
I was watching "Raising Arizona" a couple of days ago, and it suddenly dawned on me why the Coen brothers are my favorite writers/directors.
If you look at a lot of their movies, a lot of their characters on the surface come off as folksy, unsophisticated and provincial caricatures.
But the writing is so rich that it creates a delicious dichotomy between what you would expect from the character and what they actually are saying.
They've pretty much perfected the Wise Simpleton.
In Raising Arizona, you have H.I., a trailer dwelling ex-Con who delivers this wonderfully rich narration with complex analogies and allusions.
In Fargo, you had the folksy small town Minnesota-nice Margie Gunderson, who singlehandedly puts together all the pieces of a complex kidnapping/murder case.
In The Big Lebowski, you have Walter, a Vietnam vet bowler with a serious temper problem who still manages to quote Lenin (but not Lennon), distinguish the subtle differences between Nazism and Nihilism, and take the time out mid-rant to correct the Dude's politically-incorrect reference of "Chinaman."
In O Brother Where Art Thou, you have escaped convict Ulysses Everett McGill, whose quick to deliver sharp and verbose statements to his two fellow escapees.
And there's other examples as well. But the style of wit meets regionalism makes them hands down my favorite filmmakers of all time.
dawg
(10,624 posts)"Look upon me! I'll show you the life of the mind."
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)It's a mild spoiler, but anyone who hasn't seen the movie should read no further...
...Jerry Lundegaard's fate was perfectly executed.
I mean, if the cops shot him while trying to escape, or if he ACTUALLY escaped, it would have ruined the movie. What happened to him may have been "justice," but it is also the single worst thing that COULD have happened to him. All of his scheming and manipulation and attempt to stay ahead of the curve, BUT...
Love that and "Lebowski." Somewhat indifferent to "Arizona" and "Brother" after having seen both, but I HATED "Lebowski" on first viewing, so I may give the other two a chance some day.
panader0
(25,816 posts)I'm a huge Coen Bros fan and know "O Brother" by heart. The music is superb. I learned to play several of the songs.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Though maybe not on just one story:
Fargo opens with the following text:
THIS IS A TRUE STORY. The events depicted in this film took place in Minnesota in 1987. At the request of the survivors, the names have been changed. Out of respect for the dead, the rest has been told exactly as it occurred.
Although the film plot is completely fictional, the Coen brothers claimed that many of the events that take place in the movie were actually based on true events from other cases that they threw together to make one story. Joel Coen noted:
"We weren't interested in that kind of fidelity. The basic events are the same as in the real case, but the characterizations are fully imagined ... If an audience believes that something's based on a real event, it gives you permission to do things they might otherwise not accept."[5]
The Coens claim the actual murders took place, but not in Minnesota.[6] The main reason for the film's setting is the Coens were born and raised in St. Louis Park, a suburb of Minneapolis.[7]
On the trivia track of the film's special edition DVD, it is revealed that the main case that inspired the movie is the infamous 1986 murder of Helle Crafts from Connecticut at the hands of her husband, Richard, who disposed of her body through a wood chipper.[8] The end credits bear the standard "all persons fictitious" disclaimer for a work of fiction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fargo_%28film%29#Factual_basis
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)They were just playing around with that Upper Midwestern Tall Tales tradition.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)Because the opening explanation is an untruth ("The events depicted in this film took place in Minnesota in 1987. At the request of the survivors, the names have been changed. Out of respect for the dead, the rest has been told exactly as it occurred" . But, in the internet dawn of 1996, only a handful of critics decided to check whether such a crime had happened in Minnesota less than a decade earlier. So the myth that Fargo's brutally violent plot really did happen pervaded.
The Coens stuck to the story during the promotion of their film, too. In an interview with Premiere in March 1996, Joel is quoted saying: "we wanted to try something based on a real story, and tell it in a way that was very pared down", before adding that the script was "pretty close" to the actual event.
However, his brother Ethan revealed the truth behind the 'true story' in the introduction to Fargo's published screenplay, the closing sentence of which read: "[the film] aims to be both homey and exotic, and pretends to be true."
The closest Fargo's plotline ever got to real life was in 2001, when an office worker from Tokyo named Takako Konishi was found dead in a snowy field outside of Detroit Lakes in Minnesota. Her death was ruled as a suicide, after Konishi was found to have suffered depression from being fired from her job and found to have overdosed on sedatives.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)been hooked ever since!
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)I like how all of the main characters are constantly making decisions that lead to disaster, because they are acting from incomplete information (and sometimes panic). In most thrillers, the plot drives the character's actions, so a villain that has been established as smart will start making obvious mistakes so the hero can win, or the hero will make some ridiculous intuitive leap that only makes sense to the audience, because we are privy to information that the hero should not be.
It's also cool, as a movie that doesn't really have a hero vs villain structure. McDormand's character is more sympathetic than the other two leads, but she's fairly flawed and compromised too.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)and do not even know any who could/would or even know who LENIN was. Or who would know to reference any of the other stuff. Neither.
Dr. Strange
(25,921 posts)Chuggo.
It's like it was meant to be.
nirvana555
(448 posts)and they really do get better and better after each viewing. If I HAD to pick a favorite I guess it's Fargo but maybe because I've watched it the most because i own the DVD. Whenever any of their movies are on and I'm flicking channels, I always watch what's on 'till the end.
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)Even the smaller roles get some real gems, like:
"I don't know, they were jammies, they had Yodas and shit on em!"
"Well, sometimes I get them menstrual cramps real hard. "
I also really like old movies, so I like the way they are constantly working in references to Hollywood classics all through their movies.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,184 posts)Cool Hand Luke, The Wizard of Oz, Sullivan's Travels, just to mention a few.
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)I've spotted obvious references to that one in at least a half-dozen of their movies. IIRC, "The Hudsucker Proxy" has a scene that is practically a recreation of the scene where Joel McCrea and Veronica Lake's characters meet. They cast a wide net with their cinephile homages, but they always seem to come back to "Sullivan's Travels" and "Night of the Hunter."
Lots of Kubrick too, but spread across all of his films, instead of one in particular.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Both underrated, IMO
callous taoboy
(4,585 posts)Well no... unless round is funny.
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)judging by other posts, there's more than a handful of Coen Bros movies I haven't seen yet! And some I've seen but didn't know they were Coen Brothers. I need to fix that - I've loved every one I've seen... I should start collecting them on Blu-ray...
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Two of my fave!
KT2000
(20,584 posts)John Malkovich in a Coen brothers film - perfect!
actually, everyone was fun in that one - especially the CIA.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)(Warning! Major spoiler in the clip below! Watch only if you have no intention of seeing the movie
No spoilers in this one
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)K&R