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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:34 PM Jan 2015

My thoughts about Manhattan, from a periodic visitor

Last edited Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:16 PM - Edit history (1)

1- Been to Manhattan in 1964, 1978, 1984, 1989, 1996, 2006 and just a few days ago.

2- I absolutely love the place. Too pricey to live there, though. Big shoebox sized condo = $230,000, no thanks. Don't want to be a renter. Not interested in living in NJ, CT, Brooklyn, etc. (sorry for mistype, conveyed totally wrong impression, wow!)

3- Everyone was great. Even the sedan driver who charged me way too much for a round trip to Jersey City was quite pleasant.

4- I kept getting lost, no sun to orient me. Meh, it was ok. Lost = walked wrong direction for ONE block, so it wasn't that bad. Next time I'll know tips for orienting myself without the sun.

5- Next time I'm flying, no more 20 hours of driving, ugh.

6- I'll go again next year, maybe.

7- Next time I'm paying the money for cabs, to heck with walking!

eta: It sounds like next time, I need to make Brooklyn and/or another borough my destination instead of too-pricey Manhattan.

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My thoughts about Manhattan, from a periodic visitor (Original Post) steve2470 Jan 2015 OP
You don't need the sun hollysmom Jan 2015 #1
Right --but that's why you can walk a block before you realize the number just got bigger or smaller pnwmom Jan 2015 #11
You can't see the numbers short block away? hollysmom Jan 2015 #29
A short block away? Maybe we have longer blocks than you? pnwmom Jan 2015 #33
I meant a short block as opposed to a long block hollysmom Jan 2015 #37
more like 20 or so blocks to a mile North/South. 10 is about a half mile. and e/w about 6 per mile HERVEPA Jan 2015 #20
... KMOD Jan 2015 #2
oh but I hurt now omg... steve2470 Jan 2015 #3
have you actually visited Brooklyn? Brooklyn is very much part of the city of NYC in a way La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #4
yes, been to Brooklyn steve2470 Jan 2015 #6
no, it's not manhattan but its not NJ and CT either La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #10
Hoboken has some cool aspects, too. pnwmom Jan 2015 #12
honestly, i dont even think Manhattan is manhattan anymore. there is nothing really cool or cutting La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #17
The same thing is happening in San Francisco. The people with money are taking over everywhere. n/t pnwmom Jan 2015 #18
yup, its why i have not really wanted to revisit San Francisco. i want to remember it La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #21
They still have the only bones store I've ever seen anywhere. pnwmom Jan 2015 #34
Greenwich Village is all bought up now by non-artists ? steve2470 Jan 2015 #16
yes, which artist can afford greenwich village, most of the artist studios are not in Bed-Stuy La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #19
sorry for my tone earlier, was feeling cranky for some reason steve2470 Jan 2015 #25
meh, its fine. i sounded cranky too. nothing to do with you, but mostly my sadness about La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #28
Use the subway, not cabs Sanity Claws Jan 2015 #5
And the bus from Jersey City! WinkyDink Jan 2015 #8
Seconded. The subways are fast, easy, and sometimes entertaining. HERVEPA Jan 2015 #13
No smart phone? PennyK Jan 2015 #7
I'll have to learn how to do that, thanks! nt steve2470 Jan 2015 #24
I was treated to a trip to NYC about14 years ago. panader0 Jan 2015 #9
I went to the Rainbow Room years ago steve2470 Jan 2015 #27
Big Shoebox Condo? Where? LynneSin Jan 2015 #14
it was a listing in one of the local real estate web sites steve2470 Jan 2015 #15
it was here, can't find it now steve2470 Jan 2015 #23
It was probably sold. n/t Yavin4 Jan 2015 #30
you can get a house for 230K in some neighborhoods. depends greatly on proximity to transport and bettyellen Jan 2015 #39
Manhattan in 1964 was so much different than Manhattan today. rug Jan 2015 #22
I love going to the city. HappyMe Jan 2015 #26
NY is great but not for everyone, which is cool. Yavin4 Jan 2015 #31
You don't need the sun...it's on a grid. mnhtnbb Jan 2015 #32
I never worry aboit getting lost in Manhatten olddots Jan 2015 #35
does not apply, nope steve2470 Jan 2015 #36
any other comments ? nt steve2470 Jan 2015 #38
try to stay in another neighbor aside from midtown, because downtown is less touristy. bettyellen Jan 2015 #40
Queens now has a number of conveniently located hotels - I know of LiberalElite Jan 2015 #41
it was here, cannot find it now, probably sold steve2470 Feb 2015 #42
Sounds like you had quite the adventure, Steve! Cha Feb 2015 #43
answers steve2470 Feb 2015 #44
So you had some good luck with your car not being towed.. Great! Cha Feb 2015 #45

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
1. You don't need the sun
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:40 PM
Jan 2015

you just have to learn about the streets - for the most part,the numbers go down when you go south or east with a few named streets out there to confuse people.

I will say I have met NYers who have no idea about North/south East West - so you try not to say meet you on the North east corner. I was surprised they couldn't do distances in center Manhattan where it is 4 long blocks (east/west) to a mile and 10 short blocks (north/east) per mile.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
11. Right --but that's why you can walk a block before you realize the number just got bigger or smaller
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 04:56 PM
Jan 2015

and that you're going in the wrong direction.

I know, because we have the same number system here, and I depend on it.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
29. You can't see the numbers short block away?
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jan 2015

I admit I got glasses because I could not longer see far away, but when I was younger I could.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
33. A short block away? Maybe we have longer blocks than you?
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:53 PM
Jan 2015

No, I don't have perfect vision and I don't always wear my glasses.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
37. I meant a short block as opposed to a long block
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:12 PM
Jan 2015

I admit I was spoiled and did not appreciate my great vision when I had it, according to my doctor, I could see at 70 feet what otehrs saw at 20, but I could still focus my eyes normally on everything,just had super (as in super duper) vision.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
20. more like 20 or so blocks to a mile North/South. 10 is about a half mile. and e/w about 6 per mile
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:06 PM
Jan 2015
 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
2. ...
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:44 PM
Jan 2015
7- Next time I'm paying the money for cabs, to heck with walking!




It's a great way to get your steps in, cabbing is naughty Steve.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
3. oh but I hurt now omg...
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:47 PM
Jan 2015

blisters, soreness, exhaustion.... I walked more in 2 days than I have in 2 years. I was in Midtown and there was no way I was walking to the other parts of the borough. I did take the subway to the upper west side once, before I had to go back to the hotel and warm up and take a nap.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
4. have you actually visited Brooklyn? Brooklyn is very much part of the city of NYC in a way
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 04:07 PM
Jan 2015

that NJ and CT are just not.

how can you get lost in a grid?

Walking is the best part of NYC. well one of the best parts.

Glad you had a good visit

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
6. yes, been to Brooklyn
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 04:13 PM
Jan 2015

It's nice but it's not Manhattan, sorry.

Lost = I'd walk the wrong way for ONE block. I'd then turn around and go the correct way.

Walking, meh, too many freaking blisters. Subway or cab next time.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
10. no, it's not manhattan but its not NJ and CT either
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 04:56 PM
Jan 2015

parts of brooklyn are infinitely cooler than the city, especially now. years ago manhattan had an artistic/interesting vibe, now its a city of bankers and lawyers and other douches. Brooklyn has some parts of what used to make manhattan cool in the 90's and the early 2000's.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
17. honestly, i dont even think Manhattan is manhattan anymore. there is nothing really cool or cutting
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:04 PM
Jan 2015

edge in terms of arts/culture coming out of Manhattan, because unless you are already wealthy you just can't afford Manhattan. I think the only reason these days we all congregate in the city, is because the MTA makes travel to the city much easier than travel within Brooklyn.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
21. yup, its why i have not really wanted to revisit San Francisco. i want to remember it
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:07 PM
Jan 2015

as a cool, hippy, artsy city not a tech douche hangout.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
19. yes, which artist can afford greenwich village, most of the artist studios are not in Bed-Stuy
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:06 PM
Jan 2015

and east Williamsburg. Most (even successful) artists i know live in Carrol Gardens/Williamsburg etc.

Manhattan over the years is a place for tourists and super wealthy new yorkers and all the cutting edge coolness has been slowly but surely moving out.

The lower east side still has some remnants of what the village used to feel like.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
28. meh, its fine. i sounded cranky too. nothing to do with you, but mostly my sadness about
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jan 2015

what who can afford living in this city anymore

Sanity Claws

(21,852 posts)
5. Use the subway, not cabs
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 04:10 PM
Jan 2015

It's a lot more economical and often faster.

As for directions, when I walk out of the subway, I sometimes don't know which way I'm facing. I get oriented by looking to see whether I am on an avenue or a street and then whether the numbers on the buildings are going up or down. But once I'm oriented, it is very easy to stay oriented, regardless of the lack of sun.

PennyK

(2,302 posts)
7. No smart phone?
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 04:22 PM
Jan 2015

I used to get disoriented in Manhattan all the time (I'm from Long Island), but your phone will show you direction.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
9. I was treated to a trip to NYC about14 years ago.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 04:51 PM
Jan 2015

MY trip to the Met Museum was a huge highlight. On another night, my (then) sweetheart took me to a building close to the UN building.
We took the elevator to the 15th or so floor, where there was a nightclub. When we walked in, the band played a special song, arranged by the sweetie. You could see the UN building next door from the balcony. I had to do Greenwich Village, the beatnik bars, and a trip up the river to West Point. I loved it all.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
27. I went to the Rainbow Room years ago
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:22 PM
Jan 2015
http://www.rainbowroom.com/

Awesome view, great band, good food. Your post for some reason reminded me of that.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
14. Big Shoebox Condo? Where?
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 04:59 PM
Jan 2015

For $230K you're getting the slums in one of the outer boroughs and probably the size of baby shoes.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
15. it was a listing in one of the local real estate web sites
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:01 PM
Jan 2015

No idea how truthful it was, but yes, it was in that borough for that price. Something like 350 square feet ?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
39. you can get a house for 230K in some neighborhoods. depends greatly on proximity to transport and
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:58 PM
Jan 2015

condition.
The house I grew up in - two story/ two apartments, was valued at less than 200K recently, and it's very close to an express stop, and reasonably safe.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
22. Manhattan in 1964 was so much different than Manhattan today.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:09 PM
Jan 2015

Rent control was strong. There were dozens of working class neighborhoods with working class culture all up and down the island. It wasn't the playground of international capital that it is now.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
26. I love going to the city.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:21 PM
Jan 2015

In the summer or spring, plan a trip to the Bronx Zoo.

As others have said, Brooklyn is awesome.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
31. NY is great but not for everyone, which is cool.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:33 PM
Jan 2015

I love NYC, but I don't like Los Angeles. HOWEVER, I can clearly understand why others may love it. I'm not a car person. Can't stand being in a car for hours every day. But, I can see how there are folks who love living there.

mnhtnbb

(31,401 posts)
32. You don't need the sun...it's on a grid.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:46 PM
Jan 2015

Uptown, downtown, east, west. Easiest city in the world for getting around.

I was born there in 1951, but never lived in the city. Still, it's a wonderful town.
I grew up in Jersey. Can't count the number of times I've been in the city.

Take the subway. It will get you within a few blocks of anywhere.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
35. I never worry aboit getting lost in Manhatten
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 06:52 PM
Jan 2015

knowing I can ask anyone for directions and they will tell me to fuck myself.......an old joke I hope doesn't apply anymore .

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
40. try to stay in another neighbor aside from midtown, because downtown is less touristy.
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:00 PM
Jan 2015

And come in nicer weather so you can enjoy the walks- they are awesome.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
41. Queens now has a number of conveniently located hotels - I know of
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 08:07 PM
Jan 2015

1 located near the 7 train which goes into Manhattan along 42 St. and another hotel about 10 min. from the 7 that has a courtesy van.

http://www.comfortinn.com/hotel-maspeth-new_york-NY235

http://www.yelp.com/biz/la-quinta-inn-queens-long-island-city-2

There are others.

Where was the $230,000 shoebox sized condo? There are less expensive apts. for purchase.

Manhattan is now the Gold Coast. The "outer boroughs" are still affordable here & there.

Cha

(297,565 posts)
43. Sounds like you had quite the adventure, Steve!
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:30 PM
Feb 2015

Did you find some places to eat with good food and some good accommodations?

That's so cool that you have the adventurous spirit to get out on the road again to travel up to NYC! What did you do with your car while you were doing all those blistering walk abouts?

My sister lives in the Adirondacks but has a daughter who works in Manhattan.. she knows that place like the back of her hand! Especially they're all there for their Christmas in New York Tour with her Grand Daughters.

I even did Times Square on New Year's Eve 2001, with her family, when I lived up there for 12 years.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
44. answers
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:34 PM
Feb 2015

My hotel was pretty decent, on 44th Street in the theater district. No, I tried hard to save some money, so my food was simply life-sustaining.

I left my car in Jersey City at a parking lot for NJ Transit. Thank God it wasn't towed I took the train over to Manhattan, of course. New Year's Eve in Times Square, how crowded and how fun!

Cha

(297,565 posts)
45. So you had some good luck with your car not being towed.. Great!
Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:46 PM
Feb 2015

Food can be expensive but oh so necessary.. Especially when you're out and about on vacay..

So, you were glad you went but it was good to be home so you could at least enjoy your food and Sunshine?

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