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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsSONDHEIM (no less) joins me in canning Gaga's Sound of Music performance
Over the years I have found myself in contrariness to DU conventional Kook-Aid a good dozen of times, all of those being more GD-important than this one. But more importantly than having been validated later (which I was, every single time), I never once bruited about any I-told-you-so. Exceptions are made to be exceptions, so I'll bruit this one.
In this very place Lady Gaga's tribute to Julie ANDREWS and The Sound of Music was hailed, as the motivation for it should be, but I was left cold by it, mostly by the triteness, like, just another sameness of rendering. I get that it was Gaga's break from herself that mostly caught everybody's attention, but listening with eyes closed was a ho-hum. Eyes open, otoh, the underarm tattoo was jarring.
Now, when Gaga originally burst on the scene, I dismissed the buzz until I was won over by Bad Romance, first for the pop commerciality that I love from a GREAT MELODY with GREAT HOOKS, but then, the more I listened, by her FULL, RIPE, THROATY voice. I can't credit myself with corresponding intuition, so I didn't guess the Italian connection, but when I looked up her Wiki background on why her "Gaga" masked her ethnicity, her Eyetalian heritage caused me eruptions like, "Ahh!1" and "So THAT's it!!" and "I should have guessed!1" Italians, music, singing --- who'd have guessed such a thing!1
That all said, the over-played familiarity of the material and performance was further wrecked for me in the instant she raised her arm and those TATTOOs snaked errectedly. It's like I love Christina PERRI's Jar of Hearts, the loveliness, the simplicity, the melody, but am grossed out looking at the whole tapestry of tats on her. By the bye, *I* have a tat on each upper arm (under short sleeves), of the old school military heritage, but my blessing to humanity is not going tank-topped or worse (that's what Dark is for).
But lookee here, Master SONDHEIM renders his opinion. I bow.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/17/lady-gaga-stephen-sondheim_n_6884704.html
[font size=5]Stephen Sondheim Calls Lady Gaga's Oscars Performance 'A Travesty'[/font]
Not everyone was thrilled by Lady Gaga's "Sound of Music" tribute at the Oscars. Stephen Sondheim, the award-winning 84-year-old composer of shows like "Sweeney Todd" and "Into the Woods," slammed the pop star's performance in a recent interview with British newspaper The Times.
"On the Academy Awards she was a travesty," Sondheim said. "It was ridiculous, as it would be from any singer who treats that music in semi-operatic style. She had no relationship to what she was singing. What people liked was her versatility."
Gaga's tribute was greeted with mostly positive reviews, the best coming from "Sound of Music" star Julie Andrews. "The minute I got home from the Oscars I called her," Andrews told ABC News after the ceremony. "She sang superbly and then so lovingly handed me the evening on a platter, if you know what I'm saying."
Can't please 'em all, Gaga.
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valerief
(53,235 posts)whether it's Gaga or Andrews, meh.
UTUSN
(70,700 posts)hunter
(38,316 posts)I thought her performance was one of the brighter, or at least endurable, parts of a rather dreary show. I happened to be watching it with family who still have some connection to that industry. (I was a Hollywood kid of sorts. Two of my siblings tried to survive as actors for a time, taking small rolls in television and film.)
Gaga's tattoos didn't bother me. There are many sorts of art I can appreciate, even when they are "not my cup of tea," and I do confess, some sorts of tattoos I find attractive.
All my siblings have various tattoos, but I do not, and I suspect my needle phobia is the only reason.
One of my grandfathers was a shipyard welder in World War II and had the usual sorts of tattoos for that sort of work, which he kept under his shirt in "respectable" company.
UTUSN
(70,700 posts)* "can appreciate... even when not my cup of tea"
* "some sort of tattoos I find attractive"
* "needle phobia"
* "usual sorts of tattoos"
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Julie was happy then I'm happy and I bet Gaga is ecstatic.
UTUSN
(70,700 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)did was pleasing then Julie then -I- know (if I were Gaga) I would be totally and completely happy and not at all upset with Sondheim's comments, after all he called her versatile and I would think that HIGH PRAISE coming from Sondheim.
Honestly, it all sounds like a left-handed compliment to me and what got the worse for wear was The Academy the way I read it.
After all, it was a Rodgers and Hammerstein collaboration, iirc.
UTUSN
(70,700 posts)First, I knew that!1 (that it's R&H, not SONDHEIM), but the inestimable T-A's implication is that SONDHEIM's opinion (should?) be more pertinent if regarding his own work, not that of others. But I prostrate myself in submitting that Senor SONDHEIM has sufficient credits notched on his belt at least with regard the "H" half in the R&H as a peer, plus working with the "R" kind of practitioners *and* with execution in rehearsing (what works, what doesn't work), therefore at fairly much the highest qualification in judging these matters.
If T-A's implication (above) makes a distinction of opinionating, then might I say that this further implies that opinions belong within like-categories (lyricists only judge lyrics, singers only judge singing, composers only judge material)?
Yes, SONDHEIM said she was versatile, but he also said her performance was a TRAVESTY!!!1 I take this as my self-justification for my own puny opinion.
Yes, Dame Julie was graciously pleased, which is fine. But at the most surface plane, being grateful and flattered at being honored starts with common courtesy and intensifies on up from there, the more effusive the more prominent the bestower.
*****************************This has been a beauteous product of a years' long collaboration between T-A and UT-sie.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)what I am eluding to is I don't think Gaga should feel all that insulted or even damned with faint praise.
so it was a travesty ... who then, Sondheim would do Dame Julie justice?
That is MY question for Stephen.
back over to U-Tbone.
Peace_maker
(12 posts)"Music is a part of us and either enables or degrades our behaviour" - Boethius (470 - 524 AD)
Isn't Ga Ga the involuntary sound one makes before you up-chuck your stomach contents?
UTUSN
(70,700 posts)But re: your last sentence::
A word from many hard knocks,
Enrique
(27,461 posts)it reminds me of wine experts that complain about things that no one else would ever notice.
olddots
(10,237 posts)THE SOUND OF MUSIC ............ it might be utubeable .
elleng
(130,946 posts)I rarely care for Sondheim!
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)I'm not a fan of his work at all.
elleng
(130,946 posts)after all, he's a big guy in the business, but we surely don't have to give his opinions much weight!
UTUSN
(70,700 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)etc etc etc?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category aul_McCartney_songs