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NJCher

(35,731 posts)
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 02:00 AM Jun 2015

Family Flees NJ Home After Receiving Creepy Letters

I travel through this town to get to work. In fact, because it is such a nice town, I do a lot of my shopping there.

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Terrifying letters forced a New Jersey family to flee their new home, and what happened left residents in the quiet community more than a little unnerved.
As CBS2’s Valerie Castro reported, the large six-bedroom home in Union County is being watched – according to a lawsuit filed by its new owners.
They paid $1.3 million for their “dream home” in the picturesque town of Westfield. They claim the previous owners were aware of a man who calls himself “the Watcher,” but they never said anything.
“I would be pretty upset if I bought a house and found out that the previous owners knew about it,” said Robert Hagen of Westfield.

More at link. They tell what some of the letters say and they do indeed send shudders down the spine.


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/06/23/residents-say-they-fled-after-being-watched-in-westfield-n-j-home/


Cher

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Rhiannon12866

(206,016 posts)
1. I heard about this - somewhere - and it's about the creepiest thing I've ever heard.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 02:08 AM
Jun 2015

It sounds more like a horror flick than real life. I feel terrible for all the people involved, really hope they can get to the bottom of it.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
2. Here is a hint, you get letters from a idiot, throw them out.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 04:25 AM
Jun 2015

suing the previous owners does not seem like it should be reasonable, some people are just sue happy. If I got letters like that I would use the circular file. The perpetrator is most likely 12.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. Suing may be reasonable if NJ has a real estate law like Cal.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 06:49 AM
Jun 2015

Where all significant problems with a home have to be revealed to buyers.

This may or may not fall under any such law.

I am curious how long the previous owners had the house.
And why the letter sender cannot be found.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
4. But is that a significant problem?
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 08:05 AM
Jun 2015

The other poster is right, throw them away. The previous owners were unharmed.

The sender is a real creep and they should look for them. But it appears at most to be "disorderly conduct."

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,339 posts)
6. Do we know the previous owners were "unharmed"?
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 09:54 AM
Jun 2015

If they told the neighbors and friends they sold because of the watcher, then there might be some responsibility.

It all hinges on what the plaintiff can prove. So far, it seems the previous owners have said too much in admitting receipt of the letters previously.

I too would have tossed the letters. But I don't have kids.

I would think the Feds could get involved since the U.S. Postal Service was used. Hopefully, the "watcher" didn't cover his tracks beyond the FBI's capability.

It sure doesn't help the house looks like The Amityville Horror house.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
10. If they sold because of the watcher, then the previous owner was not too bright
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 12:04 AM
Jun 2015

really, I heard about someone who bought a house with Cat pee in it for far below cost, it was being sold by the children of a cat lady who were open about the dozens of cats that lived in the house and peed on the floor., but when the new owners moved in they found they had to replace all the floors, they sued the previous owners and got the price of the house back, sounds like they got a good deal even though they were informed before hand, Sorry, Now this would be the real nanny state if this crap keeps up. They saved enough on the price of the house that they could afford to replace the floors.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
7. The letters are pretty specific and terrifying
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 09:57 PM
Jun 2015
The plaintiffs say The Watcher also wrote that "I asked the [previous owners] to bring me young blood," and said that "once I know their names, I will call to them and draw them too [sic] me."
Two more letters, dated June 18 and July 18, "were in the same vein as the first letter," the complaint states.
"I am pleased to know your names now and the name of the young blood you have brought to me," one allegedly said. "Who has the bedrooms facing the street? I'll know as soon as you move in."
The Watcher also said, according to the complaint, "it will help me to know who is in which bedroom, then I can plan better."

<SNIP>
The plaintiffs seek damages for fraud and breach of contract, claiming that they "are entitled to a refund of the entire purchase price [of the home] with interest, while also being entitled to retain fee title to the home."
http://www.courthousenews.com/2015/06/16/creepy-letters-ruined-nj-dream-home-couple-says.htm


The sellers received a letter just before the closing from "The Watcher" that indicated he knew the house was being sold and did not disclose this to the buyers.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
9. and if you believe that,I have a bridge for you.
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:56 PM
Jun 2015

this reads like the start of a bad horror movie where they run and hide behind the chain saws as seen on TV.
I would look for a teenager in the vicinity. Houses have for sale signs on their lawns and Sold signs after wards.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
12. Would you take a chance with your family after getting a letter like that?
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:10 AM
Jun 2015

I wouldn't.

Aside from whether or not the letters are real, in many states the sellers have the responsibility to disclose defects or problems with a property. Receiving threatening letters that acknowledge the sale and indicate a possible threat against the buyers should be considered a "defect." That is why there is a lawsuit - the sellers did not disclose receipt of the letter they got just before closing.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
14. i would ignore it, I don't like to reward people who annoy me.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 11:38 AM
Jun 2015

now if someone had told me I would receive phone calls 3 times a day from "microsoft" and they would need to access my computer - well, that would be another story,. Can't block them because they spoof their number.

This is just paper and ink of someone who is getting their jollies from these idiots (or clever scammers). What fun to read about this in the local paper, I still go with a teenager in the vicinity who is laughing their butt off.

Right now I am kind of concerned about a senior in our area that was killed by his lawn guy, since I had to hire a lawn guy.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. No doubt, many people told Rebecca Schaeffer that the creepy letters she received read like a bad ho
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jun 2015

No doubt, many people told Rebecca Schaeffer that the creepy letters she received read like a bad horror movie and her concerns were unfounded...

One wonders if she too, bought a bridge.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
16. you really had to reach for that one, didn't you
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 01:35 PM
Jun 2015

that case she was being stalked, not the house. not =.

NJCher

(35,731 posts)
5. I think I know this house
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 09:45 AM
Jun 2015

I'm going to drive by next time I'm there. If it's the one I'm thinking of, it really is huge.

Personally, I don't think I would let this bother me much. It's probably some nutty neighbor who liked having the house empty. Maybe the previous owner had five or six kids who weren't well supervised, thus he came up with this innovative plan for keeping the house empty.

It smacks of somebody who watched too many horror flicks.


Cher

NJCher

(35,731 posts)
11. Do you mean on the site of 431 Hillside?
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 12:29 AM
Jun 2015

Because the 19-room house itself was destroyed by arson:

The List home was destroyed by arson ten months after the murders, a crime which remains unsolved. Destroyed along with the home was the ballroom's stained glass skylight, rumored to be a signed Tiffany original worth over $100,000.[6] (Wikipedia)

There's another connection to macabre houses in Westfield, and that is through Charles Addams, who, along with Edward Gorey (Maine, I believe), both illustrated for The New Yorker. Here is an example of one of Addams' creepy houses:



Addams used the houses of Westfield as inspiration for the spooky houses in his cartoons.



Cher

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
13. No, it is a badly written article that conflates the situations
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:11 AM
Jun 2015

I thought the same at first. Then when it said the List house had burned, I had to re-read the article carefully.

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