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nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 07:48 PM Dec 2015

Help! I have no job or personal references

So in a nutshell - I lost my job at the end of 2007. Went through a crapload of tragic losses the next couple of years (grandparents who were like my parents, and 2 wonderful dogs). In 2010 I got a contract position that had a specific end date.
The last 2 1/2years have been dealing with my mom's major health crisis and finally moving her to a senior living apt. That has been a huge mess (only child of a single parent, her parents are the ones that passed and her siblings have washed their hands of her)

Haven't worked since then. My last two employers no longer exist - one was a non-profit that went poof, and another was absorbed by some other non-profit.

However I have been seeing a therapist since 2011 and have been working through my PTSD and my personality disorder. I have borderline personality and through therapy I have finally seen what a frickin train wreck I was. I have insight to my past behavior that frankly distresses me to no end that I acted so erratically. Like Keith Obermann has said, I don't just burn bridges, I napalm them.

I have no friends in the area - a handful of acquaintances that I say happy birthday to on Facebook. My husband and I really are a couple of loners (surprisingly managed to stay happily married for over 16 yrs).

I am terrified of getting back in the public realm - either through volunteer work or employment. My therapist has repeatedly assured me that not only have I made great progress, but now because I am seeing him if things do start to go to shit or I have issues I can talk them out with him before they get really bad.

I have always worked in non-profits, I have a passion for working with victims of crime and domestic abuse. And I am an excellent advocate - even past employers have agreed with that. But in the past I have gotten too wrapped up in trying to save everyone and stepping on a lot of toes in trying to get results for clients. I repeatedly say "fuck it" to authority and go ahead with what I feel is right. I now know how big of a problem that was. And I took too much of the emotional strain of working with victims personally and became an emotional drain on my co-workers.

I mention all this because I am all too aware of where I went off the rails and I am continually working on fixing that.

I have wanted to at least start volunteering, but I seriously have no one who could write a letter for me. I have not kept in touch with former co-workers or colleagues and like I said I have no close friends around here. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Help! I have no job or personal references (Original Post) nadine_mn Dec 2015 OP
Kicking for visibility nt LiberalElite Dec 2015 #1
Have you considered temping? BlueSpot Dec 2015 #2
If you have any love for animals, cwydro Dec 2015 #3
I second that. MH1 Dec 2015 #4
I love animals - all of our pets have been rescued nadine_mn Dec 2015 #5
Lol, I adopted a few when I volunteered lol. cwydro Dec 2015 #8
Do some quick volunteering for the Holidays GOLGO 13 Dec 2015 #6
I agree TexasBushwhacker Dec 2015 #11
There are some places where the initial interview is good enough. haele Dec 2015 #7
Caring for the sick IS WORK. Laffy Kat Dec 2015 #9
Along with the other excellent suggestions, look into volunteering at a hospice Fla Dem Dec 2015 #10

BlueSpot

(856 posts)
2. Have you considered temping?
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 12:27 AM
Dec 2015

I don't know what your skill set is, but a potential opportunity would be working as a temp for a while. You might end up answering the phone or billing invoices or something else that isn't your passion but you'd get a foot in the door, meet people and have the opportunity to show that you can get things done properly. If you could find a temp firm that would work to place you in non-profits, that would for sure be a plus. The good thing about temp work is that it can certainly be short-term. If you're fearful of the experience, you could go in knowing it is short-term. That might relieve some of the anxiety. And if you need to leave, well, that happens a lot with temps. No stigma there. But it could also be a way in to a full time job. A lot of companies use temps because it gives them a trial period before the actual hiring.

Good luck!

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
3. If you have any love for animals,
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 01:07 AM
Dec 2015

volunteer at your local shelter.

You don't have to deal with people that much, and you'll be helping those animals so much.

You'll be appreciated and get some rec letters just from that.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
4. I second that.
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 01:26 PM
Dec 2015

Also my experience is that most small, local organizations will pretty much be happy for ANY volunteer that just shows up when expected (even just most of the time) and makes any net positive contribution at all. So maybe start small with some local org that interests you and ask them "how can I help?"

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
5. I love animals - all of our pets have been rescued
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 03:18 PM
Dec 2015

That is a wonderful idea - thank you

(but how do I resist the overwhelming urge to adopt them all?)

GOLGO 13

(1,681 posts)
6. Do some quick volunteering for the Holidays
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 03:19 PM
Dec 2015

At a church = getting a priest/monsignor/rabbi as a personal reference is a big get!

At a hospital = getting Dr's, Directors of departments as references is highly respected. My wife did this & it led to a job offer & a whole new career for her. She's got a LOT of Dr's that will give her references that make her seem like the 2nd coming of Mother Theresa.

Go to a soup kitchen, animal shelter, any where but just get out there & try to get to know the big people there. This stuff really works.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,211 posts)
11. I agree
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:50 PM
Dec 2015

After being disabled, I landed my first new job because I had volunteered for a hospice and they provided me with a RECENT reference. Temping is good too.

haele

(12,674 posts)
7. There are some places where the initial interview is good enough.
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 04:11 PM
Dec 2015

They may not start out as paid positions, but I've known several people who worked into paid positions within six months to a year if they showed had the background (education, certificates, and 1099's or tax forms showing the 1099's from other non-profits that they had worked with) and were proven reliable.
Non-profits have networks across similar fields. So go ahead and use the organizations you worked with previously as references; even if they are no longer active, or were never active in the area you are currently applying in, or even if you don't remember who you could put down as a reference, remember - if the organization you apply for is interested in you from the interview, they will find out the information they need to bring you aboard.
I've worked over the past 25+ years as a contractor, for over a dozen companies; half which are no longer in business, and have lists of personal "references" that I have no idea where they are now, or if they're even alive.
I've never had an issue with prospective employers questioning what I did with a particular company or if I could get ahold of the supervisor I had when I was working on the other coast five years ago, etc...They've always been able to find whatever they wanted off my resume and off the interviews.

As for starting over as a volunteer, I'd suggest checking with the local non-profit/charity aggregates such as the United Way to see what sort of volunteer organizations are around that you are interested in and then call to see how you can help.
The most important thing to do when starting as a volunteer is to be available and dependable, and most places will be happy to bring you on.

On edit - the suggestion to check with "temp" agencies above is a good one, also. A good temp agency (Kelly, Apple, Mantech) will have the ability to verify where and for how long you had worked previously through the IRS, even if the organization is no longer in business.

Good Luck.

Haele

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
9. Caring for the sick IS WORK.
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:27 PM
Dec 2015

And you spent years doing just that. Highlight those skills. If the idea appeals to you, consider getting an CNA, as they are ALWAYS in demand and you WILL find work. You won't have to do it forever, just long enough to establish a couple of references. You will ace the classes. Good luck.

Fla Dem

(23,736 posts)
10. Along with the other excellent suggestions, look into volunteering at a hospice
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:37 PM
Dec 2015

or food pantry/kitchen. The hours may not be much, but it would get you out interacting with people, plus you would get the reward of helping people, especially at a food pantry/kitchen. Not sure you'd need many references, if any.

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