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denem

(11,045 posts)
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 11:17 AM Jan 2016

David Bowie Dead - I can't tell you how much he changed my life.

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Intellectually he was the most gifted song writer of his generation. Musically he was average. His work is more significant to me than The Wall and that is saying something

Sweet Thing / Candidate / Reprise changed my view on life, starting with prostitution "If you want it boys get it here thing", the politics of sex "I'll make you a deal, like any other candidate. We'll pretend we're walking home 'cause your future's at stake", Capital Punishment ''Someone scrawled on the wall "I smell the blood of les tricoteuses", the media:

I'm having having so much fun with the poisonous people, spreading rumours and lies and stories they made up

A cut up vivisection of fucking-militarism:

Well, I guess we must be looking for a different kind
But we can't stop trying 'til we break up our minds
'Til the sun drips blood on the seedy young knights
Who press you on the ground while shaking in fright


ending with a King Hit at his own addiction to cocaine:

Is it nice in your snow storm
Freezing your brain?
Do you think that your face
Looks the sane?


Thia is only one example of brilliance. Connsider the lethal lines in Young Americans on Vietnam "I've got a suite and you've got defeat" and consumerism "Do you remember the bills you have to pay, or even yesterday' followed by "Is there a woman I can sock on the jaw"?

There is much more: The Idealogue Clique in Cygnet Comiittee (1969) ends up killing everyone like the SkyNet style computer was weighing in The Savior Machine (1970) Extinction was one of Bowie' consistant themes - the human race dying off in a Slow Burn. Remarbly, Bowie admitted that his personas were fakes in,Changes (1971) before he actually got going with them and above all Ziggy Stardust is a practical implementation of Warhols theory that Celibrity is nothing more than being famous for being famous. Ziggy was a fictional Rock Star who Bowie was always planning to impersonate hiim stage. " I could fall to sleep at night as a Rock'n'Roll Srar ... Just watch me now"

Bowle's last album BlackStar has a track called Dollar Days which includes these lines:

We bitches tear our magazines (while)
Those Oligarchs with foaming mouths come
On the phone now and then


If there is a better comment on Dinald Trump's America, I haven't heard it.

I miss David Bowie beyond reason which is somewhat appropriate for a man haunted by insanity.

Zane, Zane, Zane
Ouvre le Chien

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David Bowie Dead - I can't tell you how much he changed my life. (Original Post) denem Jan 2016 OP
The demo reprise of 'Candidate' is hands-down my favorite Bowie song. Aristus Jan 2016 #1
Oh yeah. denem Jan 2016 #2
His songs showed up in the unlikeliest of places. alarimer Jan 2016 #3
Did you know that Golden Years was a reworking of Broadway denem Jan 2016 #4
Mj's Black or White is a great song and video. gvstn Jan 2016 #5
I agree denem Jan 2016 #6
A punch to the gut. Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #7

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
1. The demo reprise of 'Candidate' is hands-down my favorite Bowie song.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jan 2016

Although 'As The World Falls Down' is a close second.

It seems odd that an obscure demo track would be my favorite song of his, but it amazes me to this day.

I'll make you a deal:
I'll say I came from Earth
And my tongue is tame...

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
2. Oh yeah.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 12:10 PM
Jan 2016

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The stuff he discarded from the Leon project was superb, but in the man's own words, 'I am a grasshoppwe. I jump and see things in quite different ways. Excepting Ziggy, !this is the truth behind the phony parade of characters .whom Bowie once described this as norhing more than a new sets of trousers.

If Bowie found patience, it came to him very late in in life. The Orwell 1984 stage show was doomed whatever the Blair Eatate was thinking because David coul barely devote six months to anything. On the Ziggy album he insisted on no more than three takes on each track. If. none of the ttakes met his expectations there was hell to pay, No one can approach a theatre project like thi?approach a theatre project like this. The ins gestation is of Lazarus should give the fanatics enough to chew on beyond the span of a new set of dentures.

During the recorsing sessions for 1. Outside David decided to junk Heart's Filthy Leasob, but was talked out of it by everyone else involved. Ultimately, he listened to Brian Eno. Mr Jpnes was keenly aware of the edges of sanity. Jump they say, Jump.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
3. His songs showed up in the unlikeliest of places.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jan 2016

I got a real kick of some elderly people doing "Golden Years" for a choir performance in a PBS show a few years back. I'll see if I can find it on YouTube. (They also did "Road to Nowhere" and other non-Bowie songs, but the whole thing is well worth watching).

There was also an old TV science fiction show (maybe late 1980's) where the family traveled (through wormholes or something) from one world to another and, in one of them, there was no music, so they recorded some David Bowie songs. I guess copyright didn't apply in a parallel universe. Anyway, it made no sense, but it was the first time I really started to appreciate the music.

Also, when Jessica Lange sang "Life on Mars" in American Horror Story. Weird, but it sometimes takes other people's interpretations for me to appreciate the original artist. (I mean this as no slam on Jessica Lange, but it makes me go back and listen to the original). I've done this with other artists as well, notably Bob Dylan.

And many, many movie soundtracks. One I saw recently was called "Hunky Dory" and starred Minnie Driver as a high school teacher who was putting on a musical version of The Tempest with rock songs, including at least two Bowie songs. There may have been more. I know now that the title references one of Bowie's early albums.

I've only been a casual fan, but I like his music a lot more than, say, Paul McCartney's non-Beatle output. And way, way, more than Michael Jackson, whom I detest on many levels. MJ was weird, but not in a good way.

So I'm listening to a Spotify playlist and I am struck by how much I like these songs and how familiar so many of them are. I have never consciously sought out a David Bowie song that I know of, but I hear them all the time and they hold up well, unlike a lot of other 70s music, in particular.

Many people have said that David Bowie, through his music and his various personas, made it okay to be different. While I embrace weirdness now, as as teenager, I was a complete goody two-shoes and I guess the glam rock think must have put me off in some way so I David Bowie is one of the artists I have not paid much attention to. And I think that was a mistake.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
4. Did you know that Golden Years was a reworking of Broadway
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jan 2016

According to Carlos Alamos, David though he could take those cords wholesLe. The bands efforts were directed at changing enough to avoid a copyright lawsuit. Broadway first appeared in the title song on Aladon Sane. Bowie apparently believed that great artists steal.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
5. Mj's Black or White is a great song and video.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jan 2016

Detest the guy but he had some good songs along the way. And his New York concert (Madison Square?) was great too. Man in the Mirror had some great lyrics as well.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
6. I agree
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:10 PM
Jan 2016

and Billie Jean gets my vote as the best ever MV, finding a nealy perfect balance between art and commerce.

And there is at least one off the YouTube multi millionaire who has the same view: Park Jae Sang who currently has 5 Billion views on YouTube starting off with the infamous Gangnam Style.

When asked on Reddit what is the greatest video of all time 'PSY' typed back Billie Jean in less than ten seconds, Well he's got one thing right.

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