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DFW

(54,436 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:38 PM Jan 2016

It's such fun to be an invalid--NOT

Yesterday, I had surgery on my left knee. It wasn't a replacement, so I hope to be up and about within ten days. But for now, I'm hobbling around with crutches when I get up at all, and it takes me two minutes just to get off this /&$&=// bed.

My hat goes off, and my heart goes out to people who live with handicaps every day. My day job takes me to a different country practically every day, and being stuck in a bed in Dallas is just one step up from a jail cell to me, especially with my wife back in Germany.

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It's such fun to be an invalid--NOT (Original Post) DFW Jan 2016 OP
My dear DFW! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2016 #1
I was told the surgery went well. DFW Jan 2016 #7
I was happier in a cell than in a hospital bed. Downwinder Jan 2016 #2
I'm not in a hospital bed DFW Jan 2016 #5
Hope you are up and around soon... Phentex Jan 2016 #3
Been here, done this DFW Jan 2016 #6
Well repair soon, and elleng Jan 2016 #4
Let someone else break a leg! DFW Jan 2016 #10
RIGHT! elleng Jan 2016 #13
bummer, get well soon and back to Germany to be with your wife! :) nt steve2470 Jan 2016 #8
Nothing would please me more DFW Jan 2016 #11
know what you mean - take good care rurallib Jan 2016 #9
That's the difficult part DFW Jan 2016 #12
Having had medial meninscus removed from two knees, then total replacement of both csziggy Jan 2016 #14
The house in Dallas has permanent residents DFW Jan 2016 #15
That helps a lot - you really need assistance for the first few weeks csziggy Jan 2016 #16
That last part is something I constantly need to remember DFW Jan 2016 #21
I had major knee surgery in the middle of December 2014 mythology Jan 2016 #17
Well, they haven't cloned any of me yet DFW Jan 2016 #18
Get well soon. panader0 Jan 2016 #19
Thanks! DFW Jan 2016 #20
I'm sorry to hear that! happy wendy Jan 2016 #22
Oh, I'll get over this. I've done it before DFW Jan 2016 #23
Progress report DFW Jan 2016 #24
Ouch! redwitch Jan 2016 #25
I have NO intention of remaining immobile for ten days!! DFW Jan 2016 #26
I like your style! redwitch Jan 2016 #27
And I like your optimism! DFW Jan 2016 #28
Heal up! I hope your knee feels better! a la izquierda Jan 2016 #29
I don't knowwhen was the last time I spent 6 weeks in one place DFW Jan 2016 #30
They just cut me loose from the hospital. Thor_MN Jan 2016 #31
86 over 53? Sounds like something was amiss DFW Jan 2016 #32
They told me that I lost 25%+ of my blood volume. Thor_MN Jan 2016 #33
My last colonoscopy had a complication, too DFW Jan 2016 #43
I've read the thread and you've given me hope Duppers Jan 2016 #34
Knee cartilege can be a degenerative affliction DFW Jan 2016 #35
Thank you! Duppers Jan 2016 #36
Whoa!! I only had arthroscopy DFW Jan 2016 #37
Wow. Thanks for the clarification. Duppers Jan 2016 #38
Hopkins has good facilities DFW Jan 2016 #39
Knee replacement is indeed a much more involved procedure and takes months mnhtnbb Jan 2016 #40
I hear you! Had my hip replaced in 2007. mnhtnbb Jan 2016 #41
Actually, I AM working on a second novel DFW Jan 2016 #44
My mom lives with a handicap Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #42
I'm not sure which I'd want to have go first DFW Jan 2016 #45

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,693 posts)
1. My dear DFW!
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jan 2016

I am really sorry to hear this news...

Especially since your wife's not here to help.

Take care and I expect you will be up and at 'em soon.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
5. I'm not in a hospital bed
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jan 2016

This is the USA, not Germany. I was back at the house 3½ hours after my surgery began. It doesn't make me any more mobile, unfortunately.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
3. Hope you are up and around soon...
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jan 2016

doesn't sound like much fun. Take good care and do what they tell ya to do!

DFW

(54,436 posts)
12. That's the difficult part
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:13 PM
Jan 2016

I have to get used to the fact that going up or down the stairs now takes minutes and not seconds.

But I've had this before. I'll get over it and be back to normal in a few weeks. It's the first few days of immobility that go by so slowly.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
14. Having had medial meninscus removed from two knees, then total replacement of both
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:29 AM
Jan 2016

I found that I healed faster from the total replacements than from the meniscus removals. Of course, going from torn and folded meniscus to bone on bone was extremely painful while the knee replacements really only hurt at the incisions - I hurt LESS the day after each replacement than I did the day before.

I agree that getting a serious injury or major surgery - or even minor surgery - can give an appreciation of what people who are permanently handicapped go through.

A tip - religiously follow the physical therapy recommendations so your knee heals the best it can. I didn't for my second meniscus removal and it never healed right. Although the other knee had been bone on bone for much longer, it was the pain from that second knee that finally forced me to get the replacements done.

I don't how you are doing this without your wife! Without my husband I never would have made it through all my injuries and surgeries.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
15. The house in Dallas has permanent residents
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:41 AM
Jan 2016

I would never have done this alone.

I am doing my exercises. The hard part is getting up or lying down, and STAIRS!! But just tonight I took my first steps without the crutches. The longest journey, as they say.....

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
16. That helps a lot - you really need assistance for the first few weeks
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:54 AM
Jan 2016

In 2007 we signed the contract to build our house the week before my second knee operation. The new house has the entire ground level set up to be wheelchair accessible. It wasn't until I got both knees replaced in 2012 that I went upstairs regularly.

Three days after the first knee replacement the physical therapist had me walking up and down stairs. Remember to use the good leg correctly while the bad leg is healing.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
21. That last part is something I constantly need to remember
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 11:29 AM
Jan 2016

If you use the good leg wrongly, you never get back to walking normally.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
17. I had major knee surgery in the middle of December 2014
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 02:09 AM
Jan 2016

It was 7 weeks before I could stop sleeping in a full leg brace (and given I can't sleep on my back to save my life, it was 7 weeks before I could get a decent night's sleep). I spent a week not putting my foot down on the floor at all (not even touch weight bearing) and then 6 weeks of building up from crutching to hobbling a few feet at a time to being able to walk peg-legged before the doctor cleared me to begin walking with a bend in my right knee. Of course being my right knee, that meant no driving for 7 weeks either.

It took 4 months before my knee was safe enough to do stairs one foot at a time. It was a year before I could start jogging. I won't be fully cleared to return to my regularly scheduled life until the middle of June 2016.

But eventually it will heal and hopefully you will be better off for having had the surgery. I feel like I am, even if I can't fully test it out yet. Plus given my new cloned cartilage, I now feel like I can be my own evil clone.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
18. Well, they haven't cloned any of me yet
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jan 2016

For that matter, if they do, I wish they'd do the whole thing. Not only would my workload drop by half, I could do more guitar duets. Better clone my wife, too. I wouldn't want to share her even with myself.

 

happy wendy

(67 posts)
22. I'm sorry to hear that!
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:03 PM
Jan 2016

God bless you, hope you recover soon and have a optimistic view to face the thing that you encounter, so I believe you are in a different mood.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
23. Oh, I'll get over this. I've done it before
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jan 2016

Even some of the players were the same. The knee specialist that operated on me was the same guy that operated on me last time (1999, I think). I have my post-op check-up on the 27th. I am optimistically reserving a flight up to DC that same afternoon.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
24. Progress report
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 08:12 PM
Jan 2016

Today, I took my first steps without crutches. I couldn't believe it. They have made progress with this procedure, for sure, and I am doing the exercises they gave me to do.

I had sought out the same surgeon who operated on me 16 years ago, and he's still doing it. I have to assume significant progress in the technique has been made. If you had told me 2 days ago I would be hobbling around without the crutches less than 3 days after the operation, I would have lost a lot of money making a bet with you.

redwitch

(14,946 posts)
25. Ouch!
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 08:27 PM
Jan 2016

10 days can feel like an eternity when your body is not up to par. But you can do this! I am not sure how good I would be at the crutches thing either. Hang in there!

DFW

(54,436 posts)
26. I have NO intention of remaining immobile for ten days!!
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 08:33 PM
Jan 2016

I have done the crutches thing before. But they said the sooner I'm off them, the faster I'd heal, so I'm trying to do just that. If I'm hobbling around the house like Peg-Leg the Pirate, so be it. At least I'm doing something. I CAN do this, and I will.

Thanks for the words of encouragement--I promise to live up to them!

redwitch

(14,946 posts)
27. I like your style!
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 09:56 PM
Jan 2016

Knees are really important and we don't even realize it until they aren't working the way they should. Attitude is everything, you will be better in no time I am sure.

a la izquierda

(11,797 posts)
29. Heal up! I hope your knee feels better!
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 07:55 AM
Jan 2016

I tore a hamstring and fracture my tibial plateau when I was in grad school. 6 weeks on crutches. What a pain in the ass that was!

DFW

(54,436 posts)
30. I don't knowwhen was the last time I spent 6 weeks in one place
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 10:26 AM
Jan 2016

But I think it must have been over 30 years ago. That would have driven me stark raving bonkers.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
31. They just cut me loose from the hospital.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jan 2016

Had the 50,000 mile check up, you know, the low budget SciFi movie focused on Uranus?

Anyway, I hit the wrong lotto and had complications leading to the ER and a BP of 86 over 53. I wasn't light headed at all and didn't have any pain, but it was annoying to have tubes and electrodes stuck in and on me for a couple days.

Take it easy and get better soon,

DFW

(54,436 posts)
32. 86 over 53? Sounds like something was amiss
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 02:26 PM
Jan 2016

Although, come to think of it, when I arrived, they took my BP and registered 160 over 85. I told them their device was off, which they said was impossible. Except that I had not eaten anything and it was 5 AM, and my usual is 115 over 70. They tried it again and came up with 152 over 78. I said they needed a new machine. They disagreed, of course, but 5 hours later when they released me, they measured it again with another machine, and it was 120 over 80--more like what I'd expect, even after an operation.

I think you got the worse adventure of the two of us, as I was freed of all tubes and wires within hours. In the USA, it seems, they bend over backwards to get you out of a hospital. In Germany, they tend to keep you until they are sure you are in shape to be released. Of course, it costs 2/3 less over there, too. I can't wait to see the bill. A quick $20,000 for the trouble, no doubt.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
33. They told me that I lost 25%+ of my blood volume.
Fri Jan 15, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jan 2016

Four liters of IV saline in the ER didn't bring my BP up. My pulse was going to 130 when I was walking to the bathroom (which they were surprised that I could do without tipping over). My hemoglobin went down, not horrible, but they decided to give me a transfusion and plant me in the ICU for a day to monitor me.

Bright side is I'm fine now two days later. I got the IV ports out this morning and they let me go home. Taking it easy today and back to work on Monday.

I'm anxious to see what it costs me to treat a complication from colonoscopy. Got the results back and they want me to do another in a year...

Good luck in healing up your knee.



DFW

(54,436 posts)
43. My last colonoscopy had a complication, too
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jan 2016

Namely, a heart attack!

They had told me to go off any blood thinners I might be taking ten days before the procedure, so I stopped my daily baby aspirin ten days before. In 2004, I had had two heart stents put in, as I had severe artery blockage. What I didn't know is that when people with my blood count stop taking blood thinners, it takes about ten days for an artery to clog up again. Sure enough, half an hour after I left from the colonoscopy, BAM! Back to the emergency room for my first genuine bona fide US certified Grade A heart attack. One of the stents was completely blocked. An angioplasty blew the crap out again, and I was warned never EVER to go off the baby aspirin again. This time, for the knee surgery, I had the surgeon contact my GP, and luckily they knew each other, and it was decided I would go off the baby aspirin ONE day before the arthroscopy. No problems at all--yet, anyway!

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
34. I've read the thread and you've given me hope
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:15 AM
Jan 2016

and courage that one day I'll jump in and have the surgery I've been putting off for years.

I too HATE being an invalid even for a few days. I've torn stitches from too much movement after abdominal surgery! One thing is that my hubs isn't too adept at doing things around the house (he's too old school and I'm picky, I suppose), so I hop out of bed to do what's necessary. I so dread having to ask and rely on him.

Seems as if so many are having knee problems lately -- my brother and folks here. I just posted this evening in another thread about mine...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1018&pid=831320


Thanks for this thread!

DFW

(54,436 posts)
35. Knee cartilege can be a degenerative affliction
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:50 AM
Jan 2016

So, it is only getting worse if you don't address it. Better sooner than later, and although during the first 48 hours you think you'll never walk again, after the next 48, you'll be wondering what all the fuss was about. Do the exercises they tell you to do--that is really important. They are not strenuous and they don't take long, but they help get the circulation going, and prevent clotting, which is vital. Be up and about as soon as you can--WITHOUT overdoing it, and you should be fine.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
36. Thank you!
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 05:28 AM
Jan 2016

Now I am convinced! I will have a replacement!

When the surgeon want to just remove the cartilege, I said "hell no" to the bone on bone outcome. Bad idea, I thought. He didn't offer me a straight up replacement and after talking to two of his post-operative patients in his waiting room, I knew I was in the wrong office. I thought I'd go doc shopping if and when the pain became too severe for me to bear.

In the meantime, I've overused my left leg to compensate and all the while doing leg lifts to strengthen the rt leg ligaments, thinking that would help take pressure off the bones. It seemed to have helped.

But 9 weeks ago, damn it, I tripped giving my big Lab pup a bath and pulled the hell out the ligs surrounding my left knee. Am just now able to ease off pain meds. The good news there is that my GP and I both are sure that problem is on its way healing.

There are other big physical and nonphysical issues I'm having to deal with. Once some of that is resolved, I'm seeking the best orthopedic surgeon I can find.


Thanks again!




DFW

(54,436 posts)
37. Whoa!! I only had arthroscopy
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 05:42 AM
Jan 2016

From what I hear, you will NOT be quickly out and about after a full replacement. THAT is a different matter entirely. You will have a much longer period of immobility and need physical therapy for a while after the OP. A replacement is a completely different animal from an arthroscopy.

But DO make sure you get very competent care either way. Having an orthopedist who knows what he is doing makes all the difference in the world. My guy has been taking care of the Dallas Cowboys for 15 years, and those guys smash their knees to bits all the time.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
38. Wow. Thanks for the clarification.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 05:55 AM
Jan 2016

The guy told me my tear was bad enough that he wanted to remove the whole meniscus. When it happened, I went to the floor and had to used crutches for quite awhile. Then the pain let up. My pt is that it wasn't a small tear.

I'll be revaluated and probably have to have another MRI. Being claustrophobic, I hate those things too.

I should just visit my son in Bmore and let one of the guys at Hopkins do an evaluation.


DFW

(54,436 posts)
39. Hopkins has good facilities
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:04 AM
Jan 2016

That's a good place in general, so you're probably in good hands there.

mnhtnbb

(31,402 posts)
40. Knee replacement is indeed a much more involved procedure and takes months
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:40 AM
Jan 2016

to rehab.

I have two friends who have done replacements in the last year--and were very dedicated to their PT, exercises, etc.
afterwards--and still took months and months before they felt 'normal'.

The key is finding a really good orthopedic surgeon who does knee replacements. Talk to physical therapists, ortho nurses,
sports medicine docs/PT's to get names. You want someone who does LOTS and LOTS of procedures (more the better)
and if you have to wait several months to get on their surgery schedule it's a good sign that the surgeon has good results
because of the demand for his (her) services.

When I had my hip replaced I did not go to UNC or Duke or even a doc in Raleigh in 2007. Nobody near by was doing the anterior approach.
Found a doc in Charlotte who had been doing it for several years (he did a fellowship in Canada to learn the procedure that
was developed by an ortho doc in California) and had to wait 4 months to get on his surgery schedule. His RN told me that
the real reason for having to wait so long was the demand for him to do knees...so, if/when I have to do a knee I'm going
back to him.

Ortho docs will try to sell you on doing whatever procedure they know how to do. You want to be sure--if there are variations on a procedure
(like there are for hip replacement) that you find a doc who does the particular procedure you need and that the doc does LOTS of them.
It will make all the difference in your rehab to be at the best starting point you can.

mnhtnbb

(31,402 posts)
41. I hear you! Had my hip replaced in 2007.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:46 AM
Jan 2016

Take care! Do those exercises! Do your walking! Hope you are able to return to Germany as soon as you can.



Are you working on another novel? Using this time to write?


DFW

(54,436 posts)
44. Actually, I AM working on a second novel
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:15 PM
Jan 2016

Full of fun characters like the last one, but very different, all the same. But it's very slow going, this time. Last time, Bush and Cheney had conveniently left us with a depression, and the world slowed down long enough for me to complete the first one. Obama has done me no such favor, although he did do the world a favor. he result is that I have not had anywhere near as much time to complete the next one.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
42. My mom lives with a handicap
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 07:58 AM
Jan 2016

It's really hard for her to get around, but she keeps at it. Her mind is still sharp, but her body is making things difficult for her.

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