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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:11 PM Feb 2016

Picky grammar question about sentences starting with And, Or, and But....

I was always taught not to start a sentence with the words And, Or, and But. However, it's been a good 40 years or more since I learned any English grammar or composition. Are those rules extinct now ? Maybe I was taught wrongly ? Very possible.

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Picky grammar question about sentences starting with And, Or, and But.... (Original Post) steve2470 Feb 2016 OP
I was taught the same thing. LiberalElite Feb 2016 #1
the UR for "your" or "you're" tends to grate on me, yes nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #6
THAT's what that means? LiberalElite Feb 2016 #7
that's clever :) nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #8
I think it depends on what you're writing. If it's a short story or novel, starting a sentence with valerief Feb 2016 #2
good article, thanks! :) nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #4
Ding! Ding!! Ding!!! hamsterjill Feb 2016 #11
I've never seen that. I must not be reading enough! nt valerief Feb 2016 #12
I saw "an" in front of a word that begins mackerel Feb 2016 #16
I recently had this debate at work. A Little Weird Feb 2016 #3
thanks for the link! nt steve2470 Feb 2016 #5
You Know, I Was Not Taught That ProfessorGAC Feb 2016 #13
I think you shouldn't do it. Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #9
Old grammar rules never die... malthaussen Feb 2016 #10
And this is how flame wars start. OriginalGeek Feb 2016 #14
hehe steve2470 Feb 2016 #15

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
1. I was taught the same thing.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:18 PM
Feb 2016

BUT I'm unlearning it.

IMO texting is wreaking havoc with grammar, spelling, capitalization, sentence structure.... A younger coworker's emails look like haiku - extremely short sentences with no punctuation.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
7. THAT's what that means?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:48 PM
Feb 2016

It has nothing to do with Mesopotamia?

Well, that helps my reading comprehension!

LOL (I mean, haha)

valerief

(53,235 posts)
2. I think it depends on what you're writing. If it's a short story or novel, starting a sentence with
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:19 PM
Feb 2016

those conjunctions is pretty common. However, if you're writing a business document, it's not appropriate.

Grammar Girl thinks it's okay. Check this out.
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/can-i-start-a-sentence-with-a-conjunction

hamsterjill

(15,224 posts)
11. Ding! Ding!! Ding!!!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:46 AM
Feb 2016

We have a winner. And, I am a grammar Nazi! LOL

For creative writing, it is up to the author. For formal writing, it is not acceptable.

Speaking of grammar misuse, exactly what is it with people not using "an" in front of words that begin with a vowel? That drives me nuts. I see it all the time - "I'm going to get myself a apple". Ugh!



mackerel

(4,412 posts)
16. I saw "an" in front of a word that begins
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:42 PM
Feb 2016

with a consonant the other day, in a the newspaper no less. LOL

A Little Weird

(1,754 posts)
3. I recently had this debate at work.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:37 PM
Feb 2016

I was in the "never start a sentence with And, Or, But" camp. Mrs. Williams scared the bejeezus out of me when I was in school, so that's probably why it stuck with me all of these years. I was sure there must be a hard and fast rule against it, but after spending some time looking into it, I found that it was never a formal rule. I still only use it for informal writing that I want to sound conversational, but apparently it's ok whether it's formal or not.

Here's a link with some info:
http://grammarist.com/grammar/conjunctions-to-start-sentences/


ProfessorGAC

(65,191 posts)
13. You Know, I Was Not Taught That
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:27 PM
Feb 2016

Grammar School in the 60's, HS in the early 70's. All i was taught was that you needed the comma after any of those words before the context began, with the exception of connective modifiers. (As in: "And furthermore," where the comma comes after the second word, not the "and".)

I had a couple strict grammarians in my time too, and i've never heard the "don't do that" rule.

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
10. Old grammar rules never die...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 11:15 AM
Feb 2016

... they just fade away.

It's considered colloquial/informal, but there is no hard-and-fast rule about it. "And," "or," and "but" are used to introduce dependent clauses, so if they have nothing on which to depend (a primary clause), then why are they being used? That's the rationale, anyway. However, especially in informal communication, it is usual to keep sentences short, with as few dependent clauses as possible. Ergo, those particles (and others, "also," e.g.) are often used to begin a new sentence which is really a dependent clause.

The practice of making dependent clauses new sentences goes hand-in-hand with the decline of the semicolon, which hardly anyone uses properly these days.

-- Mal

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