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Orrex

(63,215 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:00 PM Feb 2016

Two questions about guns in movies

Why is it that when a random someone with a gun is threatening another someone, the camera shows the gunperson's finger visibly and conspicuously outside of the trigger guard? Presumably the actor isn't using a real gun with live rounds, so what purpose does this serve except to make it look like they don't know what they're doing?

Also, why is it that when a tough person with a gun is threatening/coercing someone else, they will at some point cock the gun for dramatic emphasis, which seems like a great way to say "I wasn't able to shoot you until just now."

Warning: if you cite the the worthless site "TV Tropes" or its thematic kin, then you're a bad person who wants Trump to be appointed President for Life.

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Two questions about guns in movies (Original Post) Orrex Feb 2016 OP
Worthless? WORTHLESS?? Iggo Feb 2016 #1
Trump-lover. Orrex Feb 2016 #2
(1) I don't watch gun movies and (2) TV Tropes is a fabulou site. How dare you! nt valerief Feb 2016 #3
Trump-lover. Orrex Feb 2016 #5
Is that you, Ivana? Marla? nt valerief Feb 2016 #6
Probably because directors are as clueless about guns as I am. chrisa Feb 2016 #4
Pretty sure the "finger outside the trigger guard" is LEO standard... Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #7
It is. Chan790 Feb 2016 #8
In real life, sure. But we're talking about movies. Orrex Feb 2016 #9
The Bear is correct NightWatcher Feb 2016 #10
If you don't cock the gun it will not fire catnhatnh Feb 2016 #11
I know--that's the point. Orrex Feb 2016 #14
That cocking thing always cracks me up - particularly when it follows a long petronius Feb 2016 #12
Yeah, but it is so dramatic... Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #13

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
1. Worthless? WORTHLESS??
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:16 PM
Feb 2016

I've gotten hours and hours of entertainment from that site. And that's just using the Random button.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
4. Probably because directors are as clueless about guns as I am.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:26 PM
Feb 2016

The cocking the gun out of anger thing is pretty funny, though. It's like we're supposed to say, "Oh boy! Stuff just got real!"

By the way, making a movie where someone is firing a gun that is visibly out of bullets or a gun with no magazine makes you an instant Trump fan club member, no exceptions.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
7. Pretty sure the "finger outside the trigger guard" is LEO standard...
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:13 PM
Feb 2016

The finger is close to the trigger, but not on it where one might have an accidental discharge.

At least that's how I always figured it. Don't know what TV Tropes is.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
8. It is.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016

Never finger the trigger until you're ready to fire; never point a gun at anything you don't intend to shoot.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
9. In real life, sure. But we're talking about movies.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:27 PM
Feb 2016

And it's not even LEOs in the movies. It's average characters in hostile scenes, when an accidental discharge would be the least of their worries.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
11. If you don't cock the gun it will not fire
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:07 PM
Feb 2016

On a revolver the gun can be cocked by either pulling the trigger back until there is a distinct click (double action) or by pulling the hammer back until there is a distinct click (single action). Either way when you here the click all it will take is a bit of trigger pressure and the gun will fire...

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
14. I know--that's the point.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:47 PM
Feb 2016

Prior to that moment, they're waving around an inert hunk of metal, seemingly for no other reason than to give the victim (or opponent) plenty of time to disarm them.

It's a lazy narrative gimmick by which writers are trying to convey an "it's serious now" vibe.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
12. That cocking thing always cracks me up - particularly when it follows a long
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:42 PM
Feb 2016

episode of yelling, gun-waving, and threatening...

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