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'If steroids are illegal for athletes, photoshop should be illegal for models' (Original Post) Earth_First Mar 2012 OP
Does photoshopping lead to health problems later in life? taterguy Mar 2012 #1
The point is the performance enhancing aspect... Earth_First Mar 2012 #2
I'm sorry, but I agree with Taterguy. Wait Wut Mar 2012 #3
Gatorade enhances performance taterguy Mar 2012 #21
You start to get that swirly effect you can do on Photoshop on your face in real life chrisa Mar 2012 #4
It's a stretch, but I think the point is Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #5
Yes, that's how I understood it too. polly7 Mar 2012 #6
No but they lead to health problem for some that view those photos LynneSin Mar 2012 #7
I don't buy your argument. AngryAmish Mar 2012 #8
So you don't think an Eating disoder such as Anoexia or Bulemia is a Mental disorder LynneSin Mar 2012 #9
And your evidence is? AngryAmish Mar 2012 #11
Having a friend obsessed about modeling with an eating disorder LynneSin Mar 2012 #15
Yes, yes they do Taverner Mar 2012 #12
Well, indirectly... pipi_k Mar 2012 #13
Implants and starvation diets should be illegal for models KamaAina Mar 2012 #14
I don't "take" pictures. I "make" pictures. GoneOffShore Mar 2012 #10
I get the point quakerboy Mar 2012 #16
Dove Soap did this ad a few years ago...still blows my mind AmyDeLune Mar 2012 #17
I think un-shopped women are more attractive. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #18
I guess makeup should be illegal for them too n/t FreeState Mar 2012 #19
Hell yeah! And movies shouldn't be allowed to use artificial lighting or special effects, either! Orrex Mar 2012 #20
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Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
3. I'm sorry, but I agree with Taterguy.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:09 AM
Mar 2012

Steroids are harmful, even deadly. Photoshop is a computer program.

Years and years ago, I was one of the people responsible for Photoshopping the Playboy catalog. None of those women were going to suffer long-term effects from my use of a mouse. They just lost a distracting mole, line, scar, etc. from a photo. One of my closest friends is a model and all of her portfolio pics have been Photoshopped. She doesn't have an eating disorder, she's a healthy and fit woman.

Now, if you wanted to compare steroid use to eating disorders encouraged by modeling agencies, I'd be all on board with that.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
5. It's a stretch, but I think the point is
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:47 AM
Mar 2012

the young girls who try to emulate the impossible images of chopped/cropped models will have the physical/emotional health problems

polly7

(20,582 posts)
6. Yes, that's how I understood it too.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:54 AM
Mar 2012

We had a 13 y/o girl not far from me commit suicide two years ago after being bullied and developing anorexia. Those images are powerful.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
7. No but they lead to health problem for some that view those photos
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 09:55 AM
Mar 2012

Maybe not you or I.

But alot of young girls who read those fashion magazines believe that they need to be eating disorder thin in order to be beautiful.

If we just showcased healthy, normal-weight women as fashionable we could help teach young girls that being too thin is not a good thing.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
8. I don't buy your argument.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:36 AM
Mar 2012

I don't think that there is evidence (as opposed to supposition) that viewing pictures causes mental health problems.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
9. So you don't think an Eating disoder such as Anoexia or Bulemia is a Mental disorder
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:43 AM
Mar 2012

as someone who was once a young girl herself - trust me, it does have an impact. Eating disorders are a serious issue in this country and there are other countries who are starting to make changes with how they portray women in fashion. Several European countries will no longer use models with body fat under 18% and Israel is now making people note whether or not a photo was photoshopped.

Sure not every girl that looks at a model that is way to thing will develop an eating disorder but it does have an impact on it.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
11. And your evidence is?
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:56 AM
Mar 2012

Countries all over the world make foolish laws. Many people have written countless law review articles about the foolish laws in this country. The fact that certain countries have laws does not presuppose that those laws are based on reality or science.

Do looking at pictures of thin women make young girls sad or make them feel inadequate since they are not thin like the models? Based upon your testimony I grant that that is true. There are many things that make me sad. The fact that the Cubs have not won a world series in my lifetime makes me sad. But legislation mandating a world series win by the Cubs would be wrong. We do not legislate against hurt feelings.

Banning something is a big step. In order to do that we should have real evidence.


on edit: Eating disorders are clearly mental health problems. I don't buy that looking at pictures of thin women causes or aggravtes said mental health problems.



LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
15. Having a friend obsessed about modeling with an eating disorder
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 12:36 PM
Mar 2012

You learn alot from someone like that along with the countless articles written about there and the Pro-Ani sites that cater to young girls who want to be a thin as the models they see in the magazine.

But hell what do I know?

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
13. Well, indirectly...
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 12:11 PM
Mar 2012

Yes.

Photoshopping gives girls and young women false impressions on what they're supposed to look like.

If they feel insecure already, it only gets worse.

If they don't feel insecure, it can create a problem where none existed before.

Eating disorders. Unsafe dieting. Girls and young women believing their bodies and faces are not "good enough".

Yes...that can lead to health problems and/or unnecessary dieting or surgery.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
14. Implants and starvation diets should be illegal for models
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 12:34 PM
Mar 2012

and both do indeed cause health problems later in life.

GoneOffShore

(17,342 posts)
10. I don't "take" pictures. I "make" pictures.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:48 AM
Mar 2012

Photoshop is neither a drug or a cause of drug use. And its use is increasingly pointed out so that even the most unsophisticated person is starting to get that the images in fashion magazines are "fixed" in some way.

'If steroids are illegal for athletes, photoshop should be illegal for models' is really comparing apples to durians. A silly idea.
But some folks like a windmill to tilt at.

quakerboy

(13,921 posts)
16. I get the point
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 01:20 PM
Mar 2012

But I think a better comparison would be "if steroids are illegal for athletes, Eating disorders should be illegal for models"

Also plastic surgery for actors, coffee for truckers, etc

Orrex

(63,230 posts)
20. Hell yeah! And movies shouldn't be allowed to use artificial lighting or special effects, either!
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 08:46 AM
Mar 2012

I'm fed up with these computer-driven lies! Let's get rid of all of them!

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