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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:40 PM May 2016

Do schools still use ditto machines?

Last edited Thu May 26, 2016, 12:07 AM - Edit history (1)

Or is getting high off the smell of that purple ink something kids today don't know about?

EDIT: h/t to Brother Buzz, I'm thinking of Ditto machines, which are apparently a different thing than mimeographs.

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Do schools still use ditto machines? (Original Post) Recursion May 2016 OP
I doubt they've been used in decades. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #1
We still used them in the 90s because they were cheap Recursion May 2016 #2
When I was in high school in the early 90s they used dot matrix printers 47of74 May 2016 #21
Our keyboarding class had one daisy-wheel printer per desk row Recursion May 2016 #22
When I started high school keyboarding was still called Beginnging Typewriter or something similar 47of74 May 2016 #23
Our "keyboarding" class was called "typing" and had manual typewriters. hunter May 2016 #34
We also had a "typing" class; the gender skew was almost 100% Recursion May 2016 #35
LMAO, the red powder. Had forgotten about that stuff. Hoyt May 2016 #3
I remember the smell of the green powder LiberalElite May 2016 #7
It's sawdust and wax... Callmecrazy May 2016 #28
Ah. Thanks. nt LiberalElite May 2016 #29
Per wiki: rug May 2016 #4
Kids today have no idea as to why this is funny Yavin4 May 2016 #5
Very funny! Rhiannon12866 May 2016 #15
My mother had subscriptions to several magazines - LiberalElite May 2016 #30
The early photocopiers were fun to use, too. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #6
I remember touring a company in town during high school 47of74 May 2016 #25
LOVED the purple copies. Laffy Kat May 2016 #8
Me too! And I can see some of the pictures in my head... Phentex May 2016 #18
Now I remember those. 47of74 May 2016 #20
I liked the smell of the correction fluid - LiberalElite May 2016 #31
Ditto machines (spirit duplicators) had the colored ink and the cool smell Brother Buzz May 2016 #9
Thanks for pointing that out jmowreader May 2016 #11
The janitors were pissed when they added methanol to their 'high octane'sauce Brother Buzz May 2016 #13
Does anyone know what the Germans use to denature alcohol? jmowreader May 2016 #14
Butanone and Isopropyl alcohol Brother Buzz May 2016 #26
Huh, thanks. I guess I've only ever known dittos, then (nt) Recursion May 2016 #12
My Dad used to use the cans the fluid came in for nail and screw storage. progressoid May 2016 #24
was that the purple ink? NJCher May 2016 #32
Purple seems to have been to most popular color Brother Buzz May 2016 #33
No all the schools now have copy machines. We have 5 copy machines at my school. mackerel May 2016 #10
Teachers were not allowed to touch the copy machine when I was teaching. hunter May 2016 #16
In *graduate school* the chalk was locked up Recursion May 2016 #17
I had a teacher in high school... 47of74 May 2016 #19
My high school still had one (in use) when I graduated in '95 Blue_Tires May 2016 #27
Hey, we're contemporaries Recursion May 2016 #36
Don't know about schools, but I'm betting some government agency somewhere MH1 May 2016 #37

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
1. I doubt they've been used in decades.
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:43 PM
May 2016

But I remember that odor very well. Also, the smell of that reddish powder the janitor would use to clean up when a kid puked, and the smell of library paste.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. We still used them in the 90s because they were cheap
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:44 PM
May 2016

I mean, the school had some bubble jet printers by that point, but asking to use them was like asking for the launch codes.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
21. When I was in high school in the early 90s they used dot matrix printers
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:07 PM
May 2016

There were a couple laser printers in the school, mainly in the art department and a couple other places, but most of the printers were the old dot matrix or even the old daisy wheel printers.

The IBM PC labs used IBM ProPrinters similar to this one;



None of them were networked, most of the PCs each had their own printer.

They were still using Apple II computers as well, I think they used Epsons or Apple printers with those computers.

I went through the school a couple years ago when we had our 20th class reunion but I didn't really pay attention to the kind of printers used there, I think they probably use networked laser printers now. Laser printers have gotten pretty cheap the past couple years, you can get a good color laser printer for under $300. Sure the bubble jet printers are down to under $50 now, but I think laser printers are more durable, do a better job printing, and you don't have to worry about the ink drying out if you don't use the printer for a while.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
22. Our keyboarding class had one daisy-wheel printer per desk row
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:08 PM
May 2016

They were multiplexed (the teacher had to get me and another student to hook them up right). It was actually pretty cool.

I really miss that line-printer perforated paper.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
23. When I started high school keyboarding was still called Beginnging Typewriter or something similar
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:20 PM
May 2016

And they still had rooms set up with typewriters that we used for that class. Most of the typewriters were the old IBM daisy wheels;



Most of the students took at least the basic first level typewriting course, I think it might have even been a graduation requirement to take that course.

I think by the time I graduated or maybe within a year or two afterwards they changed the course name to keyboarding and were using computers then instead of typewriters.

hunter

(38,316 posts)
34. Our "keyboarding" class was called "typing" and had manual typewriters.
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:26 AM
May 2016

I think I'd been directed to the class for my poor handwriting.

There were only three boys in our class of thirty, and all of us were considered queer in various ways.

My first computer class in college was Fortran, and the sex ratio was skewed the other way.

I was one of the few guys who could type, which gave me a slight advantage. My programs were prettier too because I didn't have much incentive to skimp on variable names or comments, unlike the hunt-and-peck typists.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
35. We also had a "typing" class; the gender skew was almost 100%
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:31 AM
May 2016
My first computer class in college was Fortran

My 3rd grade class in 1984 learned Forth and Logo on Commodore 64s. Still miss those systems. I saved up my lawn mowing money a couple of years later and bought a TRS-80. That was a great computer.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
7. I remember the smell of the green powder
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:00 PM
May 2016

the janitor pushed around on the school basement floor with a big broom. I wonder if he developed lung disease as a result of inhaling that stuff.

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
28. It's sawdust and wax...
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:38 PM
May 2016

It's used to keep the dust down while sweeping and to absorb liquids. I see it on construction jobs all the time. We call it Dry Sweep.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
4. Per wiki:
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:47 PM
May 2016
Mimeograph machines continue to be used in developing countries because it is a simple, cheap, and robust technology. Many mimeographs can be hand-cranked, requiring no electricity.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
6. The early photocopiers were fun to use, too.
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:00 PM
May 2016

The library at my college in the late '60s had a copier that was about the size of a Volkswagen. If you wanted to copy a few pages of a book you'd have to wait awhile for the student ahead of you to finish their copy project. Then you'd put the book down on the glass, close the lid, put a dime in the slot (in those days a dime would buy you a couple of big Mars candy bars or a soda or a cup of coffee), push the button and wait. And wait. And wait. The machine would hummmmmmmmmmmm, and gradually, after maybe a minute, it would emit the copy. Then you'd repeat the process. It was very, very slow.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
25. I remember touring a company in town during high school
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:25 PM
May 2016

They had a large laser printer, it was probably the size of a small car with a continuous feed for paper. The company performed business services for medical offices - billing, etc. They used the printer for printing out billing statements to send to people, along with putting them in envelopes, sorting them, and mailing them out.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
18. Me too! And I can see some of the pictures in my head...
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:22 AM
May 2016

very basic letters too. I can never forget that smell!

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
20. Now I remember those.
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:52 AM
May 2016

Yeah saw plenty of those in school. By the time I got to high school though they weren't being used as much.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
31. I liked the smell of the correction fluid -
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:54 PM
May 2016

i operated a mimeograph at a social service agency 40 years ago.

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
9. Ditto machines (spirit duplicators) had the colored ink and the cool smell
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:24 PM
May 2016

Mimeographs used simple mundane non smelling black ink. Dittos were good for, say fifty copies before they faded into nothing, while mimeographs were were strong for hundreds and hundreds of copies

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
11. Thanks for pointing that out
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:05 AM
May 2016

Lots of people think mimeograph and Ditto are the same thing, which they aren't. I wonder how many school fires went COMPLETELY out of control when they got to the room with the gallons of alcohol you needed to make the Ditto process work.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
14. Does anyone know what the Germans use to denature alcohol?
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:55 AM
May 2016

We used German denatured alcohol to clean our map boards...it smells WAY different from the kind you get in the US.

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
26. Butanone and Isopropyl alcohol
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016

Butanone (methyl ethyl ketone) gives it that unique sweet smell. From what I see, it's not just Germany, but a standard for the entire European union.

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
24. My Dad used to use the cans the fluid came in for nail and screw storage.
Thu May 26, 2016, 12:21 PM
May 2016

He'd cut off one side with a tin snips and have a nice little drawer that fit in a cabinet he made.

NJCher

(35,679 posts)
32. was that the purple ink?
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:30 PM
May 2016

My girlfriends and I had a little crime ring going in our junior year of high school. Our psychology teacher insisted on giving us the standardized tests provided by the publisher. The tests were difficult--either that or they just weren't good tests because they were made up by the publisher.

Regardless, we knew our teacher ran off the tests on the ditto machine prior to our 1 p.m. class.

After she ran off the test, she would throw the purple stencil in the office waste basket.

We would abscond with the stencil and the three of us would use it to look up the answers on lunch hour. Then we would all get As on the subsequent test.

We took turns swiping the test out of the wastebasket in the office. It happened to be Susie's day to swipe the test, and she somehow got the purple ink all over her hands. She couldn't get it off.

"Out, out damned spot!" But 1 p.m. came and Susie still had purple hands, despite all the scrubbing in the restroom. Regardless, she took the test. Our co-conspirator, Vicki, and I sat on either side of her and every time we would look at her taking the test with purple hands, we would go into a fit of laughter.

Sheer wonder our teacher never figured it out, and our crime ring operated quite happily until the end of the term.


Cher

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
33. Purple seems to have been to most popular color
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:17 AM
May 2016

But I also remember red and green. My arithmetic tests were always red.

Your friend in crime needed some strong alcohol to dissolve and remove the purple wax.

hunter

(38,316 posts)
16. Teachers were not allowed to touch the copy machine when I was teaching.
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:31 AM
May 2016

The big Xerox machine was for school administrators. It lived in its own special room. They'd print mountains of paper to send home with students. Much of it ended up littering the school grounds and surrounding neighborhood.

We teachers had to use ditto machines. When supplies ran out later in the school year we'd buy our own, or stop by Kinko's (a copy place now owned by FedEx), or use the chalkboard.

Science teachers were expected to do labs too, with a "budget" of a few cents per student.

My wife's sister is still teaching science. Not much has changed, except the school replaced chalkboards with white boards, so now teachers end up buying their own markers a few weeks into the school year.

I used to buy my own colored chalks, but the school rarely ran out of the ordinary yellow-white chalk.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
17. In *graduate school* the chalk was locked up
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:33 AM
May 2016

They had a lockbox on the chalk tray below the chalkboard that only tenured professors had access to (not adjuncts or non-tenure-track).

My advisor was convinced they were worried the students were going to snort it. And this was BU, so that may be fair...

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
19. I had a teacher in high school...
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:48 AM
May 2016

He bought his own TV and VCR for school, he claimed them on his tax returns. He did that so he wouldn't have to worry about the few TV/VCRs the social studies department had not being available when he needed them. At the reunion I learned he is still alive and is planning to make quite the donation in his will when his time comes.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
27. My high school still had one (in use) when I graduated in '95
Thu May 26, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

But I know it was about to get phased out -- It was old, in poor condition, and the print quality was very shoddy...

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
36. Hey, we're contemporaries
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:11 AM
May 2016

I asked one of my friends who now works at our old high school, and he said the district kept the ditto machine running until about 2003 when the one guy who knew how to fix it retired. Then they finally scrapped it.

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