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DFW

(54,405 posts)
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:59 AM Nov 2016

Good vibes, good luck or a combination of the two, and we're not home free yet

First of all, thanks for all the good wishes for my wife on my thread last week.

This morning, we just got the word: her biopsies were all negative: no further cancer detected. We have a big conference with Herr Professor Doktor (Germans are obsessed with their titles) tomorrow, but for now, she is cancer-free. We are hoping mightily that he recommends no chemotherapy. She went through that last time, and said it was two months of pure torture.

She is still in the hospital. The operation was a long 5 hour affair, and you don't just get up from one of those and go grocery shopping. But she is now up, can walk around on her own, but has to learn how to walk without a stoop. They took out quite a bit of her, and she compensates by walking stooped over. We were warned about this before the operation, and knew what to expect. It won't be easy, but we can now face just about anything (except more cancer), knowing that the danger, at least for now, is past.

Good vibes, good luck, maybe just the fact that she is strong and her genes dictated she was going to get past this, but whatever the how and why, we'll take it.

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Good vibes, good luck or a combination of the two, and we're not home free yet (Original Post) DFW Nov 2016 OP
So glad to read this news! redwitch Nov 2016 #1
So were we! DFW Nov 2016 #2
Wonderful news! Arkansas Granny Nov 2016 #3
Maybe it was the crossed toes that did it.... n/t DFW Nov 2016 #18
Hey, you cross whatever you can, right? Arkansas Granny Nov 2016 #33
The stoop is a bit distressing if you aren't forewarned. MADem Nov 2016 #4
This is a clinic that specializes in these ailments DFW Nov 2016 #6
huge sigh of relief. barbtries Nov 2016 #5
You enunciated the plan of action exactly! n/t DFW Nov 2016 #19
Great news!!! It will take time, but the human body is very resilient japple Nov 2016 #7
We don't have Thanksgiving here DFW Nov 2016 #20
Very best to you both... Raster Nov 2016 #8
No Thanksgiving here, but thanks! DFW Nov 2016 #22
Yes, coincidence. It is the US flag over an outline of the continental US... Raster Nov 2016 #31
Great news. Granny M Nov 2016 #9
We're not out of the woods yet, BUT... DFW Nov 2016 #23
Great news! CottonBear Nov 2016 #10
Thanks! DFW Nov 2016 #24
Wishing quick recovery to good health for your wife and strength for both of you. TexasProgresive Nov 2016 #11
We'll need all of that, thanks! n/t DFW Nov 2016 #25
That is great news DFW!!! MissHoneychurch Nov 2016 #12
The Austrians are even worse, we know DFW Nov 2016 #14
Sending you all good wishes today, for you and your wife and her continuing recovery. secondwind Nov 2016 #13
It's appreciated, thanks! n/t DFW Nov 2016 #26
Was not back on here last week TNNurse Nov 2016 #15
It was indeed abdominal DFW Nov 2016 #17
My husband had TNNurse Nov 2016 #21
I've already started. DFW Nov 2016 #28
Wishing her a good recovery. I'm glad the surgery went well. yardwork Nov 2016 #16
It was severe DFW Nov 2016 #27
I'm glad. For you, as well as your wife. yardwork Nov 2016 #29
Thanks! DFW Nov 2016 #30
That is good news! I'm happy for your family! Solly Mack Nov 2016 #32
Thanks for that! DFW Nov 2016 #45
That's excellent news. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2016 #34
She already had a brutal round of chemo the last time she had cancer DFW Nov 2016 #46
So glad for you, so far so good. Good thoughts for speedy recovery. Fla Dem Nov 2016 #35
Great news......much to be thankful for eh?? a kennedy Nov 2016 #36
Wonderful news! hermetic Nov 2016 #37
You're right--each day has her returning slowly to her old wonderful self DFW Nov 2016 #47
This is such wonderful news, my dear DFW! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2016 #38
sounds like good news for sure. Kali Nov 2016 #39
Yes, FINALLY DFW Nov 2016 #48
WHEW! elleng Nov 2016 #40
That's wonderful news. Lionel Mandrake Nov 2016 #41
Good to hear n/t hibbing Nov 2016 #42
What great news! femmocrat Nov 2016 #43
Germany doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving DFW Nov 2016 #50
So glad to hear it DFW. mahina Nov 2016 #44
Mahalo! DFW Nov 2016 #49
Rec for good news. nt awoke_in_2003 Nov 2016 #51
It's about time for some DFW Nov 2016 #52
It was a real groin kick awoke_in_2003 Nov 2016 #53
So glad the biopsies were negative. panader0 Nov 2016 #54
excellent news, dfw. did not know about this, but sending loving, healing thoughts for niyad Nov 2016 #55
Thanks to all that posted. We had the big meeting this morning. We dodged a MAJOR bullet DFW Nov 2016 #56
EXCELLENT news, DFW. elleng Nov 2016 #57
Great news, DFW Flaxbee Nov 2016 #58
Great news! Hoping for a quick and complete recovery. discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2016 #59
for some reason I am hearing good news all day today - great to hear! rurallib Nov 2016 #60

DFW

(54,405 posts)
2. So were we!
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:23 AM
Nov 2016

She called me from the hospital this morning, and sounded like she had just had a 16 ounce energy drink for breakfast.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. The stoop is a bit distressing if you aren't forewarned.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:52 AM
Nov 2016

She will get past that in time, though with therapy. Look forward to brighter days!

DFW

(54,405 posts)
6. This is a clinic that specializes in these ailments
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:03 AM
Nov 2016

So they knew what to tell us to expect in advance. We'll get this taken care of.

japple

(9,833 posts)
7. Great news!!! It will take time, but the human body is very resilient
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:37 AM
Nov 2016

and, if she made it thru 2 mos. of chemo., she will make it thru this recovery. Bless her and bless you for being her champion. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
20. We don't have Thanksgiving here
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:07 AM
Nov 2016

We usually have a bunch of friends over and do a big turkey dinner anyway, but that had to get canceled, as you can imagine.

We're happy enough that I can have her home in a few days. That's even worth foregoing the turkey dinner this time!

DFW

(54,405 posts)
22. No Thanksgiving here, but thanks!
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:09 AM
Nov 2016

And is it a coincidence that your avatar looks like a shark on the prowl?

Raster

(20,998 posts)
31. Yes, coincidence. It is the US flag over an outline of the continental US...
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:18 AM
Nov 2016

...and both are upside down, indicating our country in distress. But hey, shark on the prowl? I can go with that!

DFW

(54,405 posts)
23. We're not out of the woods yet, BUT...
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:10 AM
Nov 2016

At least now we have grounds for hoping we're done with this episode.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
10. Great news!
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:05 AM
Nov 2016

All best wishes for her during the recovery and healing process.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

MissHoneychurch

(33,600 posts)
12. That is great news DFW!!!
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:30 AM
Nov 2016

but I wouldn't say that we are obsessed with titles. At least not as much as the Austrians


Speedy recovery for your wife!! And those news definitely count as early Christmas present!!!!

DFW

(54,405 posts)
14. The Austrians are even worse, we know
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:51 AM
Nov 2016

But the Germans are still well up there. Herr Doktor Diplomingenieur Baron Rittmeister von Scheißegal! (oder beinah!)

TNNurse

(6,927 posts)
15. Was not back on here last week
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:51 AM
Nov 2016

but would have sent good wishes, also. My hope is also for no chemo....I told my husband that I would not ever do it again, I was truly afraid I would not survive it. As to the stooping (I do not know what kind of surgery it was), that is not unusual after a big surgery especially abdominal, I suspect as she gets stronger, she will work on getting straighter.

Good wishes to both of you, it sounds like she chose the right partner to help get her through this...."in sickness and in health".

DFW

(54,405 posts)
17. It was indeed abdominal
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:03 AM
Nov 2016

She is now minus uterus, ovaries, omentum and some lymph nodes down there, and she was already slender (5'10' and 130 pounds).

I don't know if SHE chose the right partner, but I definitely did, and after 42 years, I'm not going to lose her without a big fight.

TNNurse

(6,927 posts)
21. My husband had
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:08 AM
Nov 2016

to coach me to stand up straight after my hysterectomy (which was not as extensive as this), I know you can do it gently. He was also a nurse at the time and used his nurse techniques on me.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
46. She already had a brutal round of chemo the last time she had cancer
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:07 PM
Nov 2016

She was dreading another round, and it looks like she dodged it this time.

hermetic

(8,310 posts)
37. Wonderful news!
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:37 AM
Nov 2016

I've had a few parts removed. It does hurt but the good news is, it gets better each day. Best wishes for you.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
47. You're right--each day has her returning slowly to her old wonderful self
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:08 PM
Nov 2016

That dazzling smile of hers was lighting up rooms again today.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,636 posts)
38. This is such wonderful news, my dear DFW!
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:51 AM
Nov 2016

I can imagine your relief, and hers!

Now to recover and go forward, away from this horror...

All my very best to you BOTH!

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
41. That's wonderful news.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 01:32 PM
Nov 2016

Your wife dodged a bullet. I'm happy for both of you.

Good luck with Herr Professor Doktor!

DFW

(54,405 posts)
50. Germany doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:12 PM
Nov 2016

But we got something better this year. There will be time for turkey and cranberries later on.

Thanks for the kind words!

DFW

(54,405 posts)
49. Mahalo!
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 05:10 PM
Nov 2016

We haven't been out to the Islands since our daughter graduated from HPA 13 years ago.

We miss the Big Island! And now we can look forward to going back again some day.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
53. It was a real groin kick
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:12 PM
Nov 2016

But nothing like a family member having medical problems. My wife has had more than her share, including a couple strokes last Christmas time. Luckily, no impairment. It is sometimes hard to remember to do, but enjoy the times you have now.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
54. So glad the biopsies were negative.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:41 PM
Nov 2016

You love her so much that I think you could cure her with just your heart.
All the best DFW and family.

niyad

(113,341 posts)
55. excellent news, dfw. did not know about this, but sending loving, healing thoughts for
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:51 PM
Nov 2016

your lovely wife, and prayers for all of you.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
56. Thanks to all that posted. We had the big meeting this morning. We dodged a MAJOR bullet
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 06:09 PM
Nov 2016

The had professor told us that there were basically two kinds of uterine cancer. One which is 80%+ of the cases, if caught in time usually be cured with a hysterectomy.

The other one is the one they call "Der Mörder," or "the murderer." It is less than 20% of the cases. It is extremely aggressive, and attacks surrounding organs like ovaries, omentum, liver, bones, lymph nodes, anything in the neighborhood. It spreads quickly and silently, and is usually only found when it's too late, which is why the doctors in her clinic named it "the murderer." This is what my wife had.

He said her case was highly unusual in that it was detected very early, and hadn't had a chance to spread at all. He said that if he had only seen her history on paper, he would have recommended a full round of chemo and radiation. However, since he was present at her operation, and saw how it didn't appear to have spread at all, and then got a confirmation when ALL her biopsies were cancer-free, he said he thought a chemo and radiation round would probably do more harm than good.

Strict observation on a frequent basis from here on in, but for now, NO chemo and NO radiation, PLUS she gets the usual 3 to 4 week stay at a rehab spa of her choice in Germany that caters to her kind of cancer. This is considered part of cancer treatment on Germany and is covered by insurance.

We were very lucky in that my wife got a quick appointment with her gynecologist when she thought something might be amiss. We were luck again when she got a quick scraping and biopsy to see what the scrapings told. We were lucky a third time when the gynecologist recognized that she had the "murderer" form of uterine cancer, and was able to get her an operation scheduled within 3 weeks. My wife is a "Kassenpatient," which in Germany basically means "tourist class care--hurry up and wait." It was just as possible that she might have been told to wait two months between appointments, during which time her cancer would have spread and possibly been fatal.

But we lucked out The first time she had cancer, 15 years ago, she was given the "don't call us, we'll call you" treatment," and her cancer spread in the 5 months between diagnosis and begin of treatment, which then lasted 7 months. This time she had better luck. We'll take it. The alternative would have been, shall we say, unpleasant.

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
58. Great news, DFW
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 08:09 PM
Nov 2016

So glad to hear that.

My sister is struggling with a relapse (different kind of cancer) and it's an aggressive bastard; she's starting a clinical trial next week (the hail-mary pass). I completely understand the anxiety, worry and relief you both must be feeling.

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