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True Dough

(17,331 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:41 PM Feb 2017

Penny stocks. Have you ever played them?

I have stories. Quite a few stories.

Got started with self-directed investing eight years ago at age 36. It was 2009 and the recovery from the recession was underway. I started out with an oil index fund, figuring that was a sure thing. The problem is that it moved slowly. Meanwhile I was watching some other "blue chip" stocks at terrible lows moving faster, namely Visa and CBS. I was like a kid in a candy store. I wanted a little of everything. Of course I didn't have enough funds to buy 'em all, so I jumped around and then jumped around some more. Most often I took a small loss or broke even, then I was off pursuing the next possible big mover. Boy, did I lose a lot of money in commissions getting in and out like a revolving door!

Anyway, I started reading stock trading discussion forums and became convinced that penny stocks were the way to go. I bought many, but my two largest holdings were a base minerals exploration company with a promising project in Canada and a micro-cap tech company that was developing an online translation program. The former put me up six times my initial investment within several months. The latter had me ahead seven times my buy-in within a couple of months. In both cases the "most informed" investors on the discussion forums were insistent that much better things were to come. I watched the tech company nosedive and pulled out most of my money just a few cents above my original purchase price. With that cash on hand, I started sinking it into the mineral exploration company, which was also experiencing a stock price decline, but at a slower rate. I figured I was getting these shares at a bargain basement price.

Years go by. There have been some positive developments (including a partnership with a mid-cap developer) and the "pounds in the ground" are still there in that promising mineral site, but the stock is worth only a fraction of what I had paid for even my cheapest shares. I continue to hold it because I won't make these paper losses real and I believe, perhaps stubbornly and in futility, that the stock will once again resume its upward climb when this commodities cycle plays out.

So, yeah, many painful lessons. Many golden rules of investing broken, primarily "don't put all your eggs in one basket" and "don't get greedy." Fortunately I didn't get in over my head. A couple of the posters on the discussion boards said they were taking out second mortgages to free up more money for their investments. Yikes!

Other stumbling blocks that come out of nowhere, particularly with penny stocks, are share dilutions to raise finances, "short" reports that cast companies in a poor light and cause their shares to tumble, lawsuits that can drop share value by 10% to 50% in a single day and disappointing drill results/sales figures/quarterly revenues that put a large dent in share performance, and share manipulation that can cause a "whipsaw" effect, whereby shares plummet 20 to 50% within hours and then recover before the end of the day.

It's not for the faint of heart. And yet I still find myself tracking the latest flash in the pan, still fascinated by the potential to make big money quickly, even though losses are the more likely outcome, just like Vegas.

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Penny stocks. Have you ever played them? (Original Post) True Dough Feb 2017 OP
Play with money you can afford to lose Lochloosa Feb 2017 #1
Well, I have bought some stocks for x dollars that wound up being worth x pennies... Rollo Feb 2017 #2
Stay away from them. I tried it for a minute and was up quicky, then down even quicker brush Feb 2017 #3
Penny stocks are absolute losers. PERIOD. democratisphere Feb 2017 #4

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
2. Well, I have bought some stocks for x dollars that wound up being worth x pennies...
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:48 PM
Feb 2017

That was in the late 90's...

OTOH, IMHO, the best stock buys were employee stock purchase plans, and/or stock options. In one case I was able to buy thousands of shares for less than $5/share, and today they are worth more than $40/share, and have gone as high as $70.

I have also monitored (but not purchased) the stock of some firms that have plummeted to less than $1/share, only to surge back up to over $10 share. A lot depends on being able to discern how pricing is related to the company's true value vs. the herd mentality. In a couple cases, had I more info and/or thought about it more, I could have scooped up the stocks when they were way down and done fairly well when they rebounded.

As they say, when everyone is talking gloom and doom, a buying opportunity IF you have the $$$, may present itself. It does take some faith in the world, something that has been a bit in short supply since Nov. 8 2016...

Sage advice: limit one's speculation in equities to 10% of one's portfolio.

brush

(53,883 posts)
3. Stay away from them. I tried it for a minute and was up quicky, then down even quicker
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:59 PM
Feb 2017

ETFs, Index funds and dividend paying stocks are what I stick with now.

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