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Short general aviation flight over Dallas county (Original Post) Major Nikon Jun 2017 OP
*sigh* I do miss flying. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #1
Skylane Major Nikon Jun 2017 #2
I always liked the Skylane - got a lot of time in them. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #3
I've thought about replacing it for something else Major Nikon Jun 2017 #4
A twin won't cost twice as much to maintain as a single - more like three or four times The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #5
There's just nothing like flying with a handful of throttles Major Nikon Jun 2017 #8
I had never even heard of Dallas Executive Airport DFW Jun 2017 #6
It used to be called Redbird Major Nikon Jun 2017 #9
My dad had a couple of planes when I was a kid. cwydro Jun 2017 #7
Very, very cool n/t hibbing Jun 2017 #10
what is the link to this Skittles Jun 2017 #11
https://vimeo.com/220480662 Major Nikon Jun 2017 #12
How short was the general? nt zanana1 Jun 2017 #13

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
1. *sigh* I do miss flying.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 12:37 PM
Jun 2017

Since I retired I've found it's just too expensive. I do keep my CFI current, though I'm not sure why - maybe because it was so damn much work to get it in the first place.

That was fun to watch. What kind of airplane do you have?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
2. Skylane
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 12:50 PM
Jun 2017

I never got any instructor rating. Not long ago I got typed in the Challenger 601 and have been doing a bit of contract work on the side, but the Skylane is my hobby. I haven't had time to fly it much in the last few months other than a bit of weekend flying and a couple of short trips. Next month I'm going to fly it to Lakefront in New Orleans, which is one of my favorite airports. I love the terminal there. Someday I'm going to fly the Skylane around Denali, but I'll need about 3-4 weeks of nothing else to do in August or September.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
3. I always liked the Skylane - got a lot of time in them.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 12:59 PM
Jun 2017

It's kind of the airplane equivalent of a good old Chevy station wagon; the only quirk is that they're nose-heavy and given to prop strikes if not landed well; but you get used to that quirk pretty fast. Most of the instruction I did was in the C-172, which is a pretty good airplane too. I had a student who bought a Commander 115TC - it wasn't fast but it was very luxurious, had all the bells and whistles. It was sort of the opposite of the 182 because you had to land it flat, or with a sight picture that at least looked flat, or it would bounce.

Instruction was fun most of the time, though there were a few students who scared me...

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
4. I've thought about replacing it for something else
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:26 PM
Jun 2017

Sometimes I think a twin or at least a retract would be nice, but then I remember that would just cost more and not really do anything more than I want to begin with.

I've always called it an old man's airplane, and now that I'm older it seems to fit me better all the time.

I do keep it IFR certified, which comes in handy sometimes.

http://vimeo.com/137554534

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
5. A twin won't cost twice as much to maintain as a single - more like three or four times
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 05:40 PM
Jun 2017

as much. They are yuuge maintenance hogs, especially if you get one that has engines with counterrotating props like the Seneca (I think) because a lot of the engine parts aren't interchangeable between the two. Light twins are also more dangerous because they aren't certified to climb on one engine; they just take a little longer to get to the scene of the accident. (The Vmc demo during my multi-engine training was one of the scariest experiences I've had in GA.) And then there's the retractables. An FAA guy I knew used to say that it's not a matter of *if* you'll land gear-up; it's when. And it's not just GA pilots: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AAR9701.pdf

Stick with your good old Skylane. You can go darn near anywhere in it, comfortably and safely.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. There's just nothing like flying with a handful of throttles
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 07:09 PM
Jun 2017

I had one instance where I *almost* landed gear up. After that I always say out loud, "3 in the green, fully configured, cleared to land" and recheck all of those things 3 times before every single landing regardless of whether I'm flying a retract or not. So that's not to say it can't or wouldn't happen to me, but it's all about checklist discipline. There's a good reason why the airlines have virtually eliminated the problem, although I'm sure having a RAt and extra no gear indications certainly helps.

I have some time in the Seneca 1 and I actually like that plane. Even though it was an older plane I still managed to get pretty close to book values out of it. On a hot day (no shortage of those in Texas), you will go down on a single engine, but you will at least get a lot farther. But at the end of the day it's hard to justify the extra expense of a multi and retract, not to mention I just love my old Skylane.

DFW

(54,409 posts)
6. I had never even heard of Dallas Executive Airport
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 06:04 PM
Jun 2017

I need to get out more (or get a pilot's license!)

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
7. My dad had a couple of planes when I was a kid.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 07:01 PM
Jun 2017

I miss those days.

Piper Cherokee and a Cessna 310.

We had some fun times. Miss ya dad.

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