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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:52 PM Aug 2017

Does anyone here watch Grantchester on PBS?

It's also on Amazon Prime. I am kind of obsessed with it. It's an English period series set back in the 1950's with a vicar who loves Sidney Bechet, whiskey and cigarettes who also manages to involve himself in solving murder cases w/ his detective friend Geordie.

If you do, what do you like about it, not like about it? What do you think of the characters and the casting? I have my own opinions but I'm curious about yours.

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Does anyone here watch Grantchester on PBS? (Original Post) smirkymonkey Aug 2017 OP
Oh yes! shenmue Aug 2017 #1
Oh yes -- Yum! elfin Aug 2017 #2
Both of them are SO HANDSOME and I love the stories. CurtEastPoint Aug 2017 #10
James Norton is absolutely dreamy! smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #17
Oh yeah shenmue Aug 2017 #59
i 1st spotted sidney in an earlier dr who episode. knew he had a future. pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #3
I was just going to IMDB because your post made me think, "Wait, what?" Still Blue in PDX Aug 2017 #58
Oh, GAWD, yes! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2017 #4
It's on PBS. The last season just ended. I adore this show. CurtEastPoint Aug 2017 #11
They film in and around Cambridge. CurtEastPoint Aug 2017 #12
True--but more precisely in the town of Grantchester itself. Here's the Wikipedia article: CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2017 #13
omg I had NO IDEA it was a real town! Thanks! CurtEastPoint Aug 2017 #39
A few years ago The King of Prussia Aug 2017 #57
I actually signed up for PBS just so I could watch the third season. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #18
I hear you........I don't want it to end either! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2017 #23
Me too! I also got it so I can catch up on Poldark and Endeavour :) Luciferous Aug 2017 #60
I think the British shows are indeed getting harder to understand. ginnyinWI Aug 2017 #52
I love the British Mysteries but I have to use closed caption for many for ENGLISH ! Jim Beard Aug 2017 #61
I like it. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #5
The charming coastal community in the old tv series "Murder she wrote" Tanuki Aug 2017 #9
I always thought that funny too! I love Midsomer Murders as well, but I realize it's kind smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #19
I am having fun using Google maps and finding some of old places. Midsomer is about all those Jim Beard Aug 2017 #64
Love it! fierywoman Aug 2017 #6
Its on my list for binge watching, but I'm hooked on Korean dramas right. nt procon Aug 2017 #7
Oh, you will love it if you love English period dramas. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #20
I got hooked on Korean romances that have more plot twists than I can keep track of procon Aug 2017 #22
Love it! The latest season just ended & PBS is in fundraising mode. Can't wait for the next season. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #8
Which season did you just finish seeing? CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2017 #14
Not sure of the season #. Ms. Macguire got married, and Geordie & Sidney called off their affairs. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #15
Thanks for the info! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2017 #16
That was season three. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #21
Season 3? Thanks. These british series only last for about 4 or 5 episodes, so I'm never really... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #25
I love Leonard. I do hope he finds some happiness. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #30
Only one way that can happen dragonlady Aug 2017 #27
I wish he would. I think he's awful. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #29
I was wondering about this... Phentex Aug 2017 #41
I love the show. Aristus Aug 2017 #24
I love Leonard. He just breaks my heart. I so want him to find love. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #26
He smokes heavily. He probably smells terrible. Aristus Aug 2017 #28
He drinks quite heavily as well. I suppose he's fairly young and it hasn't caught up with him smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #31
I noticed. I couldn't have lived back then. Aristus Aug 2017 #32
In those days a lot of people smoked; it was even considered The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #48
I remember my parents having to put out ashtrays when visitors were expected. Aristus Aug 2017 #55
Leonard is perfect Phentex Aug 2017 #42
I know, I think he is the one character who really pulls on my heartstrings the most. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #43
Why Geordie? WHY? Phentex Aug 2017 #45
Yes, Mrs. M is growing on me. She's got her soft spots. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #46
Huge fan of PBS masterpiece mysteries.... Historic NY Aug 2017 #33
I love almost all their shows. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #36
James Norton, if you can believe it, cyclonefence Aug 2017 #34
I will have to check it out. I'm a huge fan of his. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #35
He's not just a villain cyclonefence Aug 2017 #40
Yes, we love the series TexasProgresive Aug 2017 #37
Next up on my list is Endevour. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #38
They are all pretty good... Phentex Aug 2017 #44
-- --- .-. ... . Lionel Mandrake Aug 2017 #56
Midsomer Murders got me through horrible electionI can't remember how many episodes Jim Beard Aug 2017 #62
I love all the British murder mysteries. smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #65
Have you noticed that many of the episodes start with the village having a ... Jim Beard Aug 2017 #66
I have watched both of them but naturally, in reverse order. Jim Beard Aug 2017 #63
Yes, I've watched it all on PBS!!! northoftheborder Aug 2017 #47
A bit of background on the writer of the novels muriel_volestrangler Aug 2017 #49
Interesting! Phentex Aug 2017 #50
Very interesting! Thank you! smirkymonkey Aug 2017 #51
Robert Runcie married Diana and Charles. ginnyinWI Aug 2017 #53
He also got into an argument with Maggie Thatcher about military triumphalism muriel_volestrangler Aug 2017 #54

elfin

(6,262 posts)
2. Oh yes -- Yum!
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:55 PM
Aug 2017

The main reason I am addicted to it is due to Robson Green. Just something about that guy....

Still Blue in PDX

(1,999 posts)
58. I was just going to IMDB because your post made me think, "Wait, what?"
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 02:20 AM
Aug 2017

And then I remembered the episode.

Yes, he is a superb actor. Did you see him in Happy Valley?

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,620 posts)
4. Oh, GAWD, yes!
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:56 PM
Aug 2017

My husband found it and now we're both watching it!

I LOVE IT! The scenery (it's a real English town!) the buildings, the characters, the acting, in short: everything!

The Only problem I have is that sometimes I cannot understand what they're saying. Usually I can, though.

Great little show. We've seen the first two seasons and soon Netflix will send us the third. There may be a fourth, but that's uncertain now.

57. A few years ago
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 02:07 AM
Aug 2017

I lived in Haslingfield which is a couple of miles across the fields from Grantchester. The village is very much as you see - even the village pub shots are filmed in the actual village pub. The meadows by the river that often feature are immortalised in the Pink Floyd track Grantchester Meadows.
It's also home to the disgraced tory politician Jeffrey Archer and his "fragrant" wife.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. I actually signed up for PBS just so I could watch the third season.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 10:57 PM
Aug 2017

That's how addicted I am! I hope they have a fourth. I don't want it to end!

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
52. I think the British shows are indeed getting harder to understand.
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 02:01 PM
Aug 2017

In the old days, everyone would speak a standard upper class English. Lately they are going more authentic and letting the speech be Northern, or Cockney, or Irish, or whatever.

Good for authenticity. Bad for us Yanks who can't process it as fast as it is spoken! We frequently put on the CC so we can read what was said. Helps a lot!

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
61. I love the British Mysteries but I have to use closed caption for many for ENGLISH !
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:23 PM
Aug 2017

Also look at the Apps of Britbox and Acorn. All British.

I actually watched 3 TV series with complete captions. Wallander, The Bridge (Sweedish) version and Tunnel on PBS (You have to pay Pbs extra for these.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
5. I like it.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 09:59 PM
Aug 2017

The main character is probably a bit more liberal than a 1950s small-town English vicar might have been, but it's an enjoyable series. The only thing is that this little country village seems to have a worse murder rate than Mogadishu. Another British series, Midsomer Murders, is like that, too - in a town that's probably smaller than Podunk, Nebraska, people are constantly getting murdered in strange ways and for weird and complex reasons. But what the heck, it's entertainment.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
9. The charming coastal community in the old tv series "Murder she wrote"
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 10:14 PM
Aug 2017

was also like that! Seemed like it must have had the highest per capita murder rate in America.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. I always thought that funny too! I love Midsomer Murders as well, but I realize it's kind
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:00 PM
Aug 2017

of ridiculous to have so many murders in such a small, rural area. Same w/ Miss Marple and all the other English murder mysteries. However, I am willing to suspend belief in the spirit of entertainment. They are all so well done and the characters are all so quirky and charming.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
64. I am having fun using Google maps and finding some of old places. Midsomer is about all those
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:37 PM
Aug 2017

villages around Oxford and there are a lot of them. May have just a pub and a shop or two but they are many.
It is really fun to find the places on google that are in the movies. I found almost every site in the series on Amazon, Fortitude.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. Oh, you will love it if you love English period dramas.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:02 PM
Aug 2017

What Korean dramas are you into? I love Korean horror films.

procon

(15,805 posts)
22. I got hooked on Korean romances that have more plot twists than I can keep track of
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:30 PM
Aug 2017

and so many convoluted intrigues between all the characters that something new and unexpected is always happening. The ensemble casts are huge, and the story lines generally focus on a specific type of Korean business or culture. The plots usually start with the cute, plucky girl who is poor and meets the handsome rich guy who is cold and self centered. The don't hit it off but fate keeps forcing them together and inevitable love bloom despite snooty inlaws, coworkers and dangerous threats.

While watching the story unfold I also learn a little about Korean food, their obsessions with brand name merchandize, the fashion industry, music, or film making. They all seem to love drinking... a lot. I like seeing how they live, the differences in mundane things like bathrooms or kitchens. There must be restrictions on how much intimacy they can show, but its amazing how one sweet, seemingly chaste kiss, can still convey powerful emotions.



 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
21. That was season three.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:03 PM
Aug 2017

I can't wait to see what happens next. I really want to see Sidney with Amanda.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
25. Season 3? Thanks. These british series only last for about 4 or 5 episodes, so I'm never really...
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 12:32 AM
Aug 2017

sure. I'm neutral on the whole Sidney and Amanda thing. I'm excited that Leonard may finally be coming to some sort of acceptance re: his spirituality vs. his sexuality. It's a brilliant show, and packed with exciting story lines.

dragonlady

(3,577 posts)
27. Only one way that can happen
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 12:51 AM
Aug 2017

Her husband, Guy, will have to die. The Church would never let him remain in the clergy and marry a divorced woman with her husband still living.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
41. I was wondering about this...
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:13 AM
Aug 2017

Since Mrs. M remarried, I'm guessing it was because her husband died. So this would be a way for Sidney to marry.

Still, it reminds me of all the man-made rules some churches impose and how much I hate organized religion.

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
24. I love the show.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:50 PM
Aug 2017

Amanda has come a long way.

In the first season, she was like this stunningly beautiful angel, flying in and out of episodes, conducting a fairly chaste friendship with Sidney, seemingly aloof from the cares of the world.

In the second season, she comes down to Earth a little, as a troubled woman who shoplifts to give her life some excitement.

Now she's a single mother who can't seem to get her life together.

She's still amazing to look at. So breaktakingly gorgeous, she doesn't quite seem real...

My heart breaks for Leonard. He's so sweet, so lonely, so lost. I can hardly get my head around the fact that being gay was not simply looked down upon in England at that time; it was actually against the law...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
26. I love Leonard. He just breaks my heart. I so want him to find love.
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 12:49 AM
Aug 2017

It is so tragic the way gay men were treated back in those days. I really want him to have a happy ending.

At first I didn't think Amanda and Sidney seemed right for each other, but now they are starting to grow on me as a couple. I wish they would end up together too. Sidney is just the most beautiful man - I think I am a bit in love with him.

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
28. He smokes heavily. He probably smells terrible.
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 12:51 AM
Aug 2017

I can't figure it out. If I looked like him, I wouldn't ruin my looks by smoking. And the way I know this is: I don't look anything like him, and I still don't want to ruin what little I've got by smoking...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
31. He drinks quite heavily as well. I suppose he's fairly young and it hasn't caught up with him
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 12:58 AM
Aug 2017

yet. Back then, I think a lot of people smoked, so I suppose they were a lot more used to the smell. You will notice that a lot of them smoke.

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
32. I noticed. I couldn't have lived back then.
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 12:59 AM
Aug 2017

I can tell when someone is smoking in another car on the highway, for Pete's sake. Being in a room where everyone is smoking is intolerable...

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
48. In those days a lot of people smoked; it was even considered
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 12:12 PM
Aug 2017

glamorous and sophisticated. It was so common that probably everybody smelled bad, either from their own smoke or other people's, and hardly anybody noticed. I grew up in the '50s and '60s and I remember that everybody had multiple ashtrays set out in their living rooms. My parents didn't smoke but a lot of their guests did, so we always had ashtrays ready for them. People smoked in restaurants and bars and everywhere else. There were ashtrays by the doors and the elevators in office buildings. You'd see piles of cigarette butts at bus stops and other places where there weren't ashtrays. At work, people smoked at their desks in offices until smoking was prohibited in public places starting in the '70s. When I started going to bars in the '60s, I'd have to take a shower and throw my clothes in the wash as soon as I got home because the smoke smell was overwhelming. It was everywhere.

An old aircraft mechanic told me it was a lot easier to find pressurization leaks before they prohibited smoking on airplanes because you'd see the brown streaks on the exterior fuselage.

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
55. I remember my parents having to put out ashtrays when visitors were expected.
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 03:00 PM
Aug 2017

My father was career Army, and he had to defer to higher-ranking officers and their wives. If they were smokers (neither of my parents were) it was expected that they could smoke in our house, and we had to have ashtrays available. My parents always sent us to bed before the social event began. But the living room always smelled bad the next day.

Even when I was a kid, it seemed strange to me that the non-smokers had to defer to the smokers, even though it was the smokers who were engaged in an invasive, unpleasant habit.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
42. Leonard is perfect
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:15 AM
Aug 2017

he captures this character so well, so believable. My heart aches for him (and I know this is just TV!)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
43. I know, I think he is the one character who really pulls on my heartstrings the most.
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:19 AM
Aug 2017

What do you think of Mrs. M? Of Geordie?

They are both complicated characters for me. I don't love them, but they have their moments.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
45. Why Geordie? WHY?
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:23 AM
Aug 2017

He's done this to his wife before and he just can't seem to change. It makes me not like him but I realize that he is human.

I like Mrs. M. She always has Sidney thinking about the public eye, which was important back then. They have made her more lovable in recent episodes.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
46. Yes, Mrs. M is growing on me. She's got her soft spots.
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:35 AM
Aug 2017

I think it was when Geordie wouldn't go home when his baby might have been dying really made me dislike him. I thought he was so selfish. Even Sidney said so. Then the affair topped it off. He just seems like a weak, selfish person to me. Although even he has his redeeming moments.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
34. James Norton, if you can believe it,
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 02:13 AM
Aug 2017

is a horrible villain in the Netflix series "Happy Valley," also an excellent show. So he's not only impossibly handsome, he's also a versatile actor, not typecast by his looks.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
35. I will have to check it out. I'm a huge fan of his.
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 02:36 AM
Aug 2017

I can't imagine him as a villain, but it will be interesting to see!

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
37. Yes, we love the series
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 05:49 AM
Aug 2017

As is typical of the British TV we get here; the scenery, sets, costumes are just marvelous. There is real character development to a depth that is seldom seen in U.S. TV. The plots are great and the underlying themes are so real. I can't say enough good things about the series. We can't stream because of strict data caps so we have to wait until PBS runs it. What we are to get soon is Endevour, the young Morse. We like it a lot. Earlier we had Prime Suspect: Tennison which gives a view of the young Jane Tennison which became the Tennison played so well by Helen Mirren.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
38. Next up on my list is Endevour.
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 06:34 AM
Aug 2017

I also plan to watch Prime Suspect. PBS is so wonderful! Midsomer Murders is great too if you ever get a chance to watch it.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
44. They are all pretty good...
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:20 AM
Aug 2017

I loved Endeavour and Inspector Lewis and many of the short ones that were only like 3 episodes.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
62. Midsomer Murders got me through horrible electionI can't remember how many episodes
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 10:16 PM
Aug 2017

but they are 1 1/2 hours long and 19 seasons

I love both of the Prime suspect series. I didn't think I would like the older version with Helen Mirren . it is on Hulu now. I also love Endevour plus the new Prime suspect. Check out the apps of Acorn and Brit Box.....I am watching everything British plus three series in Sweedish, French and Danish. They go slow enough to where it is easy to keep up with.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
65. I love all the British murder mysteries.
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 12:22 AM
Aug 2017

But now I'm spooked that people get killed on a regular basis in the English countryside (even though I know it's not true) and it's one of my favorite places to visit. I guess I will just have to take my chances.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
66. Have you noticed that many of the episodes start with the village having a ...
Tue Aug 15, 2017, 01:03 PM
Aug 2017

celebration of some type. many more people at the event than live close to the village. Thats OK, gotta start somewhere.

I don't know what I am going to do when I have watched all the British mysteries. I am saving Taggart as my last one and after I have watched the 109 episodes, maybe there will be more programs or episodes especially from the new Prime Suspect. Especially with Stefanie Martini being very easy on the eyes.

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
47. Yes, I've watched it all on PBS!!!
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 11:58 AM
Aug 2017

I'm wondering if it is coming back next season; this season ended with her telling her vicar love that he must choose between the church and her before slamming the door! He is TOO handsome and sexy ----- to be a vicar, but I love him in the series, love Geordie, and the other actors! And I ALWAYS love the quaint English village scene in any story. The backstories of the assistant vicar, Leonard, and the secretary's life make the central story more interesting.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
49. A bit of background on the writer of the novels
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 12:43 PM
Aug 2017
James Runcie: 'My father would have been bemused and amused by Grantchester'

As Fifties-set crime drama Grantchester comes to ITV, its writer James Runcie explains how it was inspired by his father, the late Archbishop of Canterbury

Normandy, 1944. I am in a devastated area of woodland, facing a burning tank. Dead German troops lie in front of me. A group of soldiers emerge from the darkness and the flames. One of them is my father. He is 23 years old. Suddenly, there is more gunfire. One of the men is hit, wounded beyond hope. He cries for someone to put him out of his misery. My father crouches beside him….

This is when I should write, “And then I woke up.” But it’s not like that. I am outside Slough, in Berkshire, on the film set of Grantchester, and the actor James Norton is playing a character loosely based on my father, the late Robert Runcie.

In Grantchester, Norton plays the clerical detective Canon Sidney Chambers. This is his back-story, a wartime encounter designed to show that this particular clergyman is no softy pinko conscientious objector, but a man who has fought a war and is unsurprised by death.
...
Robert Runcie became a clergyman shortly after the war. He lived in Cambridge at the beginning of his ministry (I was born there) and was later chosen to become Archbishop of Canterbury in 1979. He didn’t go round solving murders, but when I began to write a series of six crime novels, intended as a moral history of post-war Britain, it seemed almost obvious to make the central character a clergyman (the only alternative would have been a doctor). He would be a fictionalised version of my father, sharing his love of humanity, his ability to think the best of people (while sometimes fearing the worst), his cheerfulness and his love of the ridiculous, as well as his sadness and disappointment in the face of human failing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/11133894/james-runcie-on-grantchester.html

and:

James is currently working on a prequel to The Grantchester Mysteries. This will run from 1943 - 1951 and will feature Sidney Chambers' war-service with the Scots Guards in Italy, his first main love, his decision to become a clergyman, and his curacy amidst the ruins of post-war Coventry. It will be published by Bloomsbury in May 2018.

https://www.jamesruncie.com/

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
50. Interesting!
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 01:41 PM
Aug 2017

Nice background information and I am thrilled to hear there is a prequel in the works!

Thanks for this.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
53. Robert Runcie married Diana and Charles.
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 02:07 PM
Aug 2017

He has said to have married them despite private reservations that they were ill-suited to one another. He was born in 1921, and was 60 when he married them in 1981. Died in 2000.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
54. He also got into an argument with Maggie Thatcher about military triumphalism
Sat Aug 12, 2017, 02:21 PM
Aug 2017
Lord Runcie, the former archbishop of Canterbury who died in July, has left a timebomb for his critic Lady Thatcher in the shape of a television interview criticising her policies, recorded a week before his death.

The former archbishop was attacked by the government and tabloid press for his sermon praying for the dead of both sides after the Falklands war and for the Church of England's criticisms of policy in the inner cities. But he will have gentle posthumous revenge in a documentary made by his son James to be broadcast by Channel 4 on December 16.

In it Lord Runcie, who was dying of cancer, confirmed he had directed the Falklands sermon, attacking the attitudes of "those who stay at home, most violent in their attitudes and untouched in themselves" at the government of the day.

The sermon, at what the government had seen as a triumphal service at St Paul's Cathedral after the Falklands war in 1982, provoked attacks on the archbishop for a supposed lack of patriotism, all the more aggravating for ministers because, having won the Military Cross as a tank commander in the second world war, he could not be depicted as ignorant of warfare.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/nov/29/thatcher.politics
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