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mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 11:48 PM Sep 2017

Dog question............

My boyfriend's dog, a Bichon Yorkie mix has terrible allergies. Tonight we heard a Vet on the news talk about pet allergies and there's a liquid medicine for them. I'm sure that the medicine is quite expensive.

I told my boyfriend that perhaps, we could get generic sudafed in the liquid form and for children and try that. When my dog was alive there were a few times I asked a local pharmacist what I could give her for different maladies e.g. when she had a bout of diarrhea and it was suggested that I try Pepto Bismal, which worked.

So yay or nay on the sudafed?

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Dog question............ (Original Post) mrmpa Sep 2017 OP
The dog should first be offered a diet eleminating rainy Sep 2017 #1
I second this. think4yourself Sep 2017 #5
My dog had a severe allergy. The vet told me to switch to a grain-free, human-grade dog food, NCjack Sep 2017 #16
What is "human grade dog food"? left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #25
The Honest Kitchen. NCjack Sep 2017 #26
I would be afraid to try that Motley13 Sep 2017 #2
Be forewarned... True Dough Sep 2017 #3
I'm a vet. There are many reasons for allergies. mrs_p Sep 2017 #4
please listen to the real knowledge of Mrs. P. Botany Sep 2017 #9
Thank you......... mrmpa Sep 2017 #18
Agreed matt819 Sep 2017 #27
BTW. I've seen pepto cause problems too. mrs_p Sep 2017 #6
I can not remember what I used for an allergy Doreen Sep 2017 #7
Topical Benadryl would be my recommendation. democratisphere Sep 2017 #8
My poodles' vet prescribed Children's Benadryl frogmarch Sep 2017 #12
Sudafed is a decongestant, not anti-allergic medicine. It doesn't do anything for allergies uppityperson Sep 2017 #10
I'd say Benedryl or a generic rather than Sudafed MiniMe Sep 2017 #11
That's it.............. mrmpa Sep 2017 #17
Try feeding the dog Dinovite Optical.Catalyst Sep 2017 #13
They fund racist hate radio RandiFan1290 Sep 2017 #14
Another recommendation matt819 Sep 2017 #28
What are you feeding the dog, including any treats? Donkees Sep 2017 #15
Oh my. Bantamfancier Sep 2017 #19
DO not give your dog sudafed. Take your dog to an actual vet to examine your dog Heddi Sep 2017 #20
Thank you.......... mrmpa Sep 2017 #21
Many of the grain free formulas contain a lot of pea flour and similar ingredients from China Donkees Sep 2017 #23
Loratadine (Claritin, Alavert) for Dogs and Cats douglas9 Sep 2017 #22
If a veternarian agrees with those products check out your local Costco for their generics csziggy Sep 2017 #29
don't "try" anything on your pet without consulting with a vet Skittles Sep 2017 #24

rainy

(6,092 posts)
1. The dog should first be offered a diet eleminating
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 11:54 PM
Sep 2017

the biggest alergy culprits. Start with no grain diet.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
16. My dog had a severe allergy. The vet told me to switch to a grain-free, human-grade dog food,
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 07:00 AM
Sep 2017

with chicken. If that failed, then we should begin a study to determine the source of the allergy. The switch worked on day one. So, I suggest that you give that plan a try.

True Dough

(17,305 posts)
3. Be forewarned...
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 11:57 PM
Sep 2017
Ingestion of medications containing pseudoephedrine can cause serious problems for pets, the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center warns. Pseudoephedrine is a sympathomimetic used as an oral decongestant in humans. In dogs it has been suggested for controlling urinary incontinence.

http://www.aspcapro.org/resource/shelter-health-poison-control/pseudoephedrine-toxicity-pets

The primary ingredient in Pepto Bismal, on the other hand, is bismuth, which is pretty benign. Just because pets don't have averse reactions to some "human" medication it doesn't mean others aren't dangerous.

I wouldn't give Sudafed to the pooch!

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
4. I'm a vet. There are many reasons for allergies.
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:01 AM
Sep 2017

Seasonal, drugs, ectoparasites, food.

It is best to get her allergies worked up before you give any medications not prescribed by a vet. Even over the counter meds. The doses are usually different and may not be what she actually needs.

And, as suggested above, may actually harm her.

Botany

(70,510 posts)
9. please listen to the real knowledge of Mrs. P.
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:25 AM
Sep 2017

Dogs unlike people can not "talk" like us so a good vet will use his or her
knowledge, tests, and watching the dog before they suggest what to do
as per treatment.


A 100 lbs German Shep is many times the size of a Bichon Frise and so even
if the suggested medication is what is needed then it has to be correct as per
the dog's body mass.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
18. Thank you.........
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 08:09 AM
Sep 2017

lower responses recommend Benadryl, which is what I was thinking about not sudafed We might think about a topical benadryl.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
27. Agreed
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 06:53 PM
Sep 2017

That said, One thing you can do right from the get go is to change the dog’s food. A few years ago I switched to a limited ingredient dog food and the most sensitive of my dogs showed a pretty quick reduction in general allergic reactions.

His remaining allergy is to flea bites or flea poop or something along those lines. It’s seasonal, So he’s OK in fall winter and spring.

I have to agree with the recommendation to see a vet Before you start trying human meds.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
7. I can not remember what I used for an allergy
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:13 AM
Sep 2017

med for my dog years ago. It was not Sudafed though. I will keep thinking about it and hope to remember soon.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
8. Topical Benadryl would be my recommendation.
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:13 AM
Sep 2017

Check with your pharmacist as to which Topical Benadryl solution would best suit your dog application. I know this regimine works on dogs for skin allergies that are fairly common. Sudafed is a decongestant and should not be used. Benadryl is an antihistamine which is appropriate for skin allergies.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
12. My poodles' vet prescribed Children's Benadryl
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 03:15 AM
Sep 2017

for his seasonal allergies, which happen to be the same as mine - mainly Russian thistle. Certain pollens, including Russian thistle, make me sneeze but Ty just chews his paws. I take Adult Benadryl and Ty takes Children's - grape is his favorite. Benadryl fixes us right up.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
10. Sudafed is a decongestant, not anti-allergic medicine. It doesn't do anything for allergies
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 12:35 AM
Sep 2017

Nay. My vet had me give my dog an antihistamine, which works against allergies.

Bantamfancier

(366 posts)
19. Oh my.
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 09:18 AM
Sep 2017

Please do not give the dog any off-label medications unless directed to by a veterinarian.
The recommendation to change to a grain free diet is a good one.
But please take the animal to a vet before attempting any type of treatment.
An overdose or acute reaction to OTC meds is a lot harder/expensive to treat.

Heddi

(18,312 posts)
20. DO not give your dog sudafed. Take your dog to an actual vet to examine your dog
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 09:53 AM
Sep 2017

My dog has allergies to chicken and grain. Because I cannot spend the $100/bag on special broken-down-protein food that the vet insisted was the only way my dog would keep from licking his paws bloody, and that I'd have to keep him on the food for a minimum of 6 months, preferably 12-18 months with every 6 week checkups at $180 a pop, I found another vet who told me that yes, whiile the broken-down-protein food was a good way to pinpoint allergies, seeing that I'm not Scrooge McDuck that rolls around in piles of gold bullion, since my dog did well on non-chicken, non-grain diets, I could switch to that, or make my dog's food, which is what I do.

My dog now eats a human-grade diet of food I make on a weekly basis. It's primarily fish -- tuna/salmon/mackrel, spinach, beans, and rice, carrots/yams and other dog-safe fruit/veg we get at the farmer's market (they're happy to give us either free or at a steep discount any stems or ugly/bruised fruit/veg they're going to throw out or won't sell b/c we're going to feed it to the dog).

I make a weekly batch, keep it in the fridge. It ends up costing about $2-4 a week, depending on how much the veg is. I get the fish fresh and, again, the fishmonger is happy to give me bits b/c it's for the pupperino. If I wanted, I could take his little meatballs, put it in a pan and fry it up or bake it and eat it myself. No oils, no fats. Just meat, veg, and rice. Human grade for my dog.

His compulsive licking has gone away. His skin flaking and hair loss has gone away. His weight issues have gone away. His weird behaviours have gone away. That odd smell he had like sour milk, went away. All of the things that the vet told me would only go away with $100 bags of food for 18 months and $180 office visits went away with healthy, human grade food and preparation that I do on sundays that takes 45 minutes for a week's worth of food.

We've been doing this for about 9 months >Took him to the new good vet a few weeks ago. Labs are great, skin and coat are great. She has no problems with it, he's getting what he needs, nutrition-wise.
I'm not advocating anything, as I'm a human-RN, not a vet or anything, just letting you know the option that worked for my dog.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
21. Thank you..........
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 10:35 AM
Sep 2017

we are going to go with a non-chicken grain free diet. She is on a grain free food now, but it is chicken. I've told my boyfriend that I always wanted her on a beef, lamb or venison diet.

Donkees

(31,412 posts)
23. Many of the grain free formulas contain a lot of pea flour and similar ingredients from China
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 02:25 PM
Sep 2017

They can be allergens too.

douglas9

(4,358 posts)
22. Loratadine (Claritin, Alavert) for Dogs and Cats
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:42 AM
Sep 2017

Overview of Loratadine for Dogs and Cats
Loratadine, commonly known as Claritin® or Alavert®, is a type of antihistamine drug commonly used in dogs and cats to control itchy skin.
Loratadine is considered less sedating than other antihistamines.

con't

http://www.petplace.com/article/drug-library/library/over-the-counter/loratadine-claritin-alavert

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
29. If a veternarian agrees with those products check out your local Costco for their generics
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 11:32 PM
Sep 2017

I buy the generic Zyrtec I use myself and the Claritin generic I use for a month each year both from Costco. a 360 tablet bottle of the generic Zyrtec costs about $15. I don't remember how much the Claritin knockoff was but it was equally cheap. The Zyrtec generic was cheaper than I could buy a prescription for and the savings pay my Costco membership.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
24. don't "try" anything on your pet without consulting with a vet
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 02:30 PM
Sep 2017

we think of our pets as our kids but they are different!

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