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csziggy

(34,136 posts)
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:41 PM Oct 2017

More on my quest for aortic valve replacement

There is good news and bad news - and maybe good news.

Last Thursday I got the last test to get submitted for the clinical trial (Medtonics is trying to get approval to do trans arterial valve replacement on low risk patients), a CT scan of my arteries and to measure the size of my valve. The cardiothoracic surgeon called Monday. My arteries are great for getting the TAVR so that part of the test went just as we hoped. But the radiologist reading the CT saw a mass on one kidney. The surgeon referred me to a urologist.

I saw the urologist this morning. Although we had gotten a CD with the images from the CT scan, he was not able to load them. But from the written report he was of the opinion that I need to have that kidney removed. The mass is large enough that if it is cancer, they don't want to take any chance of leaving any cells. We tried to get another copy of the CD, no go, but we went back to the urologist's office this afternoon to talk more. He'd been - after a lot of effort - able to open the images and look at them.

In addition to the kidney I have an inguinal hernia. I knew about it and had planned to have that repaired once everything else was done. The urologist says that since the kidney surgery would go through that area of the abdomen, the hernia could be fixed at the same time. He does not want to do that extensive surgery until my aortic valve is replaced. On the good side he does not want me to get open heart surgery - the stress of that kind of surgery and the time involved in healing would delay the kidney surgery too long in his opinion.

The plan now is to get me reclassified to an intermediate risk for open heart surgery - that makes me eligible for TAVR without having to be in the trial. As soon as possible after that (weeks rather than months) I'd get the abdominal surgery.

I actually feel very lucky - if I had not been going through all these tests, that mass on my kidney would not have been found. The urologist said that undiscovered kidney cancer has a pretty good chance of metastasizing - once it goes there is no cure.

I'm trying to look on the good side here and I think there really is a good side. I get the TAVR which I wanted. I get that darned hernia fixed. I don't die from kidney cancer that wasn't discovered early enough. That's pretty good for the way my life has been going!

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More on my quest for aortic valve replacement (Original Post) csziggy Oct 2017 OP
Best wishes and... Liberal Jesus Freak Oct 2017 #1
Thank you csziggy Oct 2017 #4
THAT is the reason I don't go to doctors! angstlessk Oct 2017 #2
I know - I'd been going along OK csziggy Oct 2017 #5
Agree...I'm a scardy cat! angstlessk Oct 2017 #8
If you get a check up be sure to mention the shortness of breath csziggy Oct 2017 #12
New set of wheels, new carborator, new fuel filter and a touch up on the front end. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #20
Yep! I am planning on another 30 years! csziggy Oct 2017 #21
................. steve2470 Oct 2017 #3
Thank you! csziggy Oct 2017 #6
Good luck with your upcoming procedures! It sounds as if you are Tanuki Oct 2017 #7
The local hospital has a great cardio unit csziggy Oct 2017 #9
Wowsa that is a lot to take in. irisblue Oct 2017 #10
Thank you! csziggy Oct 2017 #13
oh csziggy! Kali Oct 2017 #11
Thank you! csziggy Oct 2017 #14
all the best to you - KT2000 Oct 2017 #15
Thank you! csziggy Oct 2017 #22
Just get it done and get well! sinkingfeeling Oct 2017 #16
I hope it all goes well for you. Lifelong Protester Oct 2017 #17
I've heard very good things from people who have had valves replaced csziggy Oct 2017 #23
Mrs Stonepounder and I swear by the concept of 'peculiar blessings' Stonepounder Oct 2017 #18
'Peculiar blessings' indeed! csziggy Oct 2017 #24
I had my aortic and mitral valves replaced in 2010. BobTheSubgenius Oct 2017 #19
Oh, man - BOTH valves? That is hairy! csziggy Oct 2017 #25
Wow. that's a whole lot for you to deal with at one time. So many best wishes Fla Dem Oct 2017 #26
Thank you! csziggy Oct 2017 #27

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
5. I know - I'd been going along OK
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:53 PM
Oct 2017

Out of breath but feeling as though I was in pretty good health otherwise. Now I have a history of heart problems and cancer.

Worst than doctors - getting old SUCKS!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
12. If you get a check up be sure to mention the shortness of breath
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:31 PM
Oct 2017

If it is a valve problem those are pretty easy to fix and the improvement is dramatic from what I have read.

I'm hoping to get back to hiking so I can do more bird watching. That was my plan after I got my new knees in 2012 but the breathing has kept me from doing it. The shortness of breath is because my body is not getting enough oxygen - not because of any lung problems!

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,328 posts)
20. New set of wheels, new carborator, new fuel filter and a touch up on the front end.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:39 AM
Oct 2017

You'll be good for another 100k miles easy.

It's amazing what they can find with new imaging.

My partner went in for CT for his hernia and they found a spot on his pancreas. It was the type of tumor that got Steve Jobs. Not the bad kind of cancer but still cancer. Good thing he had a hernia.

Did they say for sure your kidney is cancerous? Will they biopsy first?

And best wishes

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
21. Yep! I am planning on another 30 years!
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:17 AM
Oct 2017

We lost my favorite brother in law to pancreatic cancer. He'd been complaining for years about abdominal problems and pains. Unfortunately no one thought to give him a CT scan for all those years. By the time they did it was Stage IV and had spread.

It is a wonderful thing that your partner had a hernia!

No, they don't know for certain the kidney is cancerous but a biopsy is nearly as invasive as taking it out (my husband asked about biopsy). The surgeon in the urology practice (not the one I saw) that does most kidneys concurs that it would be better to take the kidney out. I think there are a few considerations: the mass is definitely involved with the kidney, not just an external mass, that I will already be recovering from another surgery, the abysmal prognosis if it is cancer, and the unwillingness to do yet another procedure on me.

Thank you! I'm glad your partner was treated early!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
9. The local hospital has a great cardio unit
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:00 PM
Oct 2017

They were among the first to do the TAVR procedure and have participated in a number of the clinical trials. The "urologist" is the Head of Surgery at that hospital - so his word on my need to get TAVR rather than open heart surgery will have a lot of clout!

Thank you!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
23. I've heard very good things from people who have had valves replaced
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:52 AM
Oct 2017

The difference in not getting enough blood flow to a good one is amazing apparently.

I'm glad your spouse is doing good!

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
18. Mrs Stonepounder and I swear by the concept of 'peculiar blessings'
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:11 AM
Oct 2017

It is not quite 'when life hands you a lemon make lemonade' but close.

About 10 years ago, with no warning, one Saturday evening I passed out in the garage. I had triple bypass surgery, during which they also removed a 'hanging clot' that Monday morning. Peculiar Blessings: The firehouse was only 2 miles away, the closest hospital had one of the top 10 cardio units in the country, our total bill was $300 (great insurance), and my short-term disability covered full salary for the 90 days I was off work.

So, take a deep breath, and consider all this shit as a peculiar blessing (as you seem to be doing). Best wishes and good vibes heading your way!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
24. 'Peculiar blessings' indeed!
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:01 AM
Oct 2017

I've got to remember that phrase.

Wow, your experience is scary - but you had a lot of things go right so the end results was good.

I've gotten used to making lemonade out of lemon situations. I cracked up an insurance adjuster once. Two days after my father's funeral my husband was T-boned on Peachtree Street in downtown Atlanta. His car toppled over, trapping him inside the car since the doors in both sides were crushed in. When the insurance adjuster called to let me know how much they would pay for the totaled car I told him, "Well the sun roof still works - that's how he got our of the car!" The adjust and I laughed together. He thought I would not be happy with the payment, but it was much higher than I expected (and ended up paying for nearly all of the replacement car).

If I don't laugh now, I would be sitting here in a puddle of tears.

Thanks!

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
19. I had my aortic and mitral valves replaced in 2010.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:22 AM
Oct 2017

Staph A infection ate them to pieces. Recovery is a slog, for sure....but consider the alternative. Walk, but slowly. You aren't going to get your stamina back in a week.

The BEST thing I was given was a used liftrecliner chair. It's surprisingly hard to learn to do things like stand up or get out of bed without leverage from your arms and elbows. You quickly learn to pick seats where your hips are higher than your knees.

Speedy recovery!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
25. Oh, man - BOTH valves? That is hairy!
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:08 AM
Oct 2017

Mine just wore out, with calcium build up to make the leaflets less flexible. If I get TAVR the recovery time is about a week - no big incision to heal from, just instant blood flow back to where it is supposed to be. But the abdominal surgery will need time to recover. I'll make sure they get physical therapy prescribed and do those exercises faithfully.

I had a lift chair for years. After I got shoulder surgery in 2009 I realized I couldn't operate the recliner with the handle on the right side. And I couldn't sleep lying flat - too much pain. So I found a beat up old lift chair recliner with a wired control on Craigslist and sent my husband out to pick it up.

I up graded to a power recliner before I got my new knees in 2012 - but this chair is not a lift chair. I may shop for a new lift chair - I am not sure with the abdominal surgery I could get up out of this chair and it is pretty worn out at this point.

Thanks!

Fla Dem

(23,668 posts)
26. Wow. that's a whole lot for you to deal with at one time. So many best wishes
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:09 AM
Oct 2017

being sent your way, for the courage to face your ordeals, for you recovering from all your surgeries in record time, for good health for the rest of your life, and for many family and friends showering you with love and attention during your journey down this path.

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