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limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 01:18 AM Mar 2012

Food as a Commodity

Food is one of the most basic of human needs. Routine access to a balanced diet is essential for both growth and development of the young, as well as for general health throughout one’s life. Although food is mostly plentiful, malnutrition is still common. The contradiction between plentiful global food supplies and widespread malnutrition and hunger arises primarily from food being considered a commodity, just like any other...

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When food—a basic necessity for human health and survival that is currently produced in sufficient quantity to feed everyone in the world a basic nutritious diet—is a commodity, the results are routine hunger, malnutrition, premature deaths, and famines when tight supplies result in exceptionally high prices. There are examples of farmers and the public organizing alternative ways to grow food for people instead of the market—such as Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) farms in which people purchase (frequently on a sliding scale according to ability to pay) a share of the produce during grown during the season. These types of arrangements between farmers and the public are encouraging because they demonstrate an alternate approach to food. However, the only way to guarantee that food reaches all people in sufficient quantity and quality is to develop a new system that considers food a human right and no longer considers it a commodity. Only then will we be able to fulfill the slogan, “Food for People, Not for Profit.”

http://www.zcommunications.org/food-as-a-commodity-by-fred-magdoff
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jwirr

(39,215 posts)
1. As I see it there are two problems involved in getting to the end goal. Land ownership and worker
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 02:29 PM
Mar 2012

pay. Workers could of course be paid to raise food and if the wages were high enough it would not be a big problem. Land ownership is another issue. Almost all land is already owned and most likely the owners are not willing to let it go without just compensation. So how do we encourage a change without making it a ownership issue?

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
2. I think maybe the answer for "how" will vary between regions.
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 04:31 PM
Mar 2012

An answer that works in the US may not may the best answer in South America or Africa. In the US, I think we should encourage the development of "public option" and "co-op" alternative food production and distribution that would gradually grow as a proportion of the current system. As far as land goes, maybe the goverment could buy some farmland the same way we do when we need to build a pipeline or a highway. Also very tight regulating and taxing corporate farms could accomplish some of the same goals while encouraging corporate agriculture to either get out of the way, or evolve to serve the public need.

I would also just add that I think smaller private farms and traditional family farms are perfectly lovely. Giant corporations have and will continue to threaten traditional family farms. In my opinion any agriculture reform should be seen as protecting small farms and traditional farms by containing the expansion of the giant corporate farms.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
3. Good start. There seems to be a move toward small farms in marginal land - not owned by the
Sat Mar 24, 2012, 06:34 PM
Mar 2012

corporations. That is also a good start. My son-in-law is doing that. I have encouraged him to think about bartering and accepting shares from the family members he furnishes with many of his products. We also donate extras to the food shelf but with chickens and pigs there are not aways that many left overs.

TBF

(32,090 posts)
4. Depends upon how you view ownership I guess -
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:54 AM
Mar 2012

I'd personally be ok with nationalizing most big industry in this country including farming (as opposed to small mom and pops, personal homes, etc ...). Rather than complete state control I'd envision more of a co-op type situation. Food is an issue now, and water is next. As long as we keep putting up with capitalism we are losing more and more natural resources. Using them up, putting the control in too few hands.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
6. I actually favor the cooperatives. As one who grew up in Iowa in the days of the small farm coops
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:02 PM
Mar 2012

played a huge role in our lives. To begin with there was the REA which was responsible for bringing electrification to the area and still exists today. There were also cooperatives that furnished gas and automotive products to the members and also some cooperative grocery stores. With the exception of the stores they all still exist. People buy memberships and get a discount on the products they buy or a dividend at the end of the year. My father still belonged when he died.

I also am familiar with the tribal system on several reservations and that is a membership based ownership of tribal lands and businesses. They elect representatives to run the businesses and share in the proceeds. It also works very well when we leave them alone to run their own lives.

TBF

(32,090 posts)
7. I don't know if we had co-ops in Wisconsin,
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:16 PM
Mar 2012

but I do remember all the small family farms (my grandfather owned one) ... and how they started selling out when you had to make a choice to either grow larger and compete or hang it up. It was nearly impossible to compete against the factory farms. One of my uncles succeeded by keeping a small portion of land and turning in into "pick your own strawberries (spring) and pumpkins (fall)".

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
8. Yes, my father went broke in the Eisenhower years when one farmer was pitted against another.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:36 PM
Mar 2012

He to ended up with an acreage and supported his family by gardening and working out on other farms.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
5. Well, most people on here know how I feel about it..........
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 11:02 AM
Mar 2012

ALL of the "general welfare" industries (food would be one of the most basic in this category) should be nationalized and run on a not-for-profit basis and sold on a sliding scale (given away?) at cost. And cost would include fair pay for agricultural workers, but not for owners.

As to compensation, philosophically I don't think it's necessary (I am a bolshevik after all , but if it makes the transition go smoother, then the government representing the PEOPLE could buy agricultural land from individuals at market price and either run the farms directly or sub them out to nonprofit co-ops. Eventually, low or no cost government food would ruin the private sector corporate farms' profit margins and THOSE lands could be picked up for a low price and placed in the government food land bank, also to be run directly or subbed out to nonprofit co-ops. If the agricultural capitalists won't sell the lands to the people at this reduced market price, then that's what eminent domain would be about.

The whole reason the HC capitalists were so dead set against even a public option run on the Medicare model was because they couldn't compete, i.e., make ginormous profits off of people's health. This model would be the same in the general welfare sector of agriculture and food.

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