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From Worker's Power, in support of the hunger strike at.......... (Original Post) socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 OP
Not only do we hear these reports of horrible conditions in prisons - TBF Jun 2012 #1
Oh yeah T............ socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #2
Good article, first I've heard of this hunger strike. limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #3
I used to work with a prison psychologist - TBF Jun 2012 #4
RE: Society's expectations........ socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #5
It seems dehumanizing in the extreme. limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #8
In the research for this article........... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #6
In a sane world the state of our prisons should be a top topic. limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #7
It's a Trotskyist international group that I belong to......... socialist_n_TN Jun 2012 #9

TBF

(32,064 posts)
1. Not only do we hear these reports of horrible conditions in prisons -
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 02:22 PM
Jun 2012

but they are now for-profit enterprises! That if nothing else should give folks a good idea what this country and it's "freedom" are about.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
2. Oh yeah T............
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 10:20 PM
Jun 2012

Does anybody think that the rate of incarceration in this country will go DOWN when there's money to be made?

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
3. Good article, first I've heard of this hunger strike.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:42 PM
Jun 2012

US prisons are brazenly inhumane. And not too many people care.

The issue is never raised in mainstream politics. For me this ought to be a top issue.

I get the impression that these kinds of incidents go on all the time but go largely unreported.

There was a big hunger strike recently in California (Pelican Bay). As conditions get worse I would guess we will hear about hunger strikes and other prisoners actions more often. Obviously I agree with you guys about private prisons.

TBF

(32,064 posts)
4. I used to work with a prison psychologist -
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:30 AM
Jun 2012

we worked together at a part-time job on the weekends. That was when I learned a lot about prisons - the violence inside really bothered him. Our society seems to think someone who is in prison deserves whatever abuse that happens when they are there. No protection of civil rights or even expectation of humane behavior exists. I find it very troubling.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
5. RE: Society's expectations........
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 12:19 PM
Jun 2012

This is one of the things that we tried to combat in the article. Yep, some people because of their actions must be sequestered away from general society, but that doesn't mean anything goes as to their treatment. Most if not all of these guys have families and with the mandatory sentencing AND the proclivity of the ruling class to make ANY dissent into a criminal activity, they COULD easily be any of us.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
8. It seems dehumanizing in the extreme.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 03:11 PM
Jun 2012

Especially when half the people in prison are probably there for stupid reasons or trumped up charges.

I seriously doubt whether all the harsh treatment really prevents crime at all either.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
6. In the research for this article...........
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 12:26 PM
Jun 2012

which really wasn't set up as an article so much as a statement of support from Worker's Power, we found several examples of hunger strikes, nationally and internationally. The biggest was by Palestinian prisoners in the Isreali prison camps. Also not only Pelican Bay, but there was also a hunger strike in Georgia (USA).

As to the mistreatment, there are some stories of guards breaking fingers of inmates and other physical torture tecniques, along with the conditions the strikers were protesting.

This could be a radicalizing and uniting action though. As one of the leaders of this strike said (paraphrasing), they're not black, white, and Latino gangs anymore. At least not primarily. They are the oppressed and are identifying as such.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
7. In a sane world the state of our prisons should be a top topic.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 03:01 PM
Jun 2012

Found this blog last night, http://prisonerhungerstrikesolidarity.wordpress.com/ It has some good links and info. I think the Red Onion hunger strike is over by now, I read that in the Washingon Post online, but who knows. I figure this stuff is going on all the time and I don't hear about it.

I don't know much about the Worker's Power site. But good on any site that brings attention to this issue.

“While there is a lower class I am in it; while there is a criminal element I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free”.
- Eugene Debs

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
9. It's a Trotskyist international group that I belong to.........
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:07 PM
Jun 2012

and do some writing for. Check it out limpy. There's an international site also. There should be a link to that and some links to the action programme, theoretical basis, etc.

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