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This blog thinks it was always about containing Russia. I think that may partly be true, but may be more about controlling resources in certain areas. Thoughts?
Article here - http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2014/05/ukrainian-crisis-was-always-about.html
2banon
(7,321 posts)I didn't know specifics back in March prior to the "crises" .. but I had intuited that it was about East West geopolitical and economic hegemony with an aim to ensure dominance over the flow of resources intuited because this is always, almost without exception the root cause of any of our "interventions". Very quickly intuitions were verified as we learned of the growing expansion of Nato on Russian's borders, the recent history of the failed East-West discussions with regard to Trade, Nato, EU membership etc, meanwhile the U.S.'s involvement in the political affairs, election engineering in Ukraine attempting to undermine any Russian influence in domestic politics in the region.
On the very eve of the Crimean referendum, Leon Panetta's foreign policy institute was holding it's scheduled public panel discussion, the topic was supposed to be a discussion on the 100 years following the first WW. But given the events of that week, that evening's discussion began with Leon Panetta woefully lamenting and opening with these three words: "We Lost Crimea". Face palming does not adequately describe my reaction to that preposterous premise.
ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)overseas (except of course response to natural disasters) is about money including justifying the continued outrageous military "defense" spending levels that the US workers have to carry on their backs while being told that we can't afford programs that benefit those same workers at home. Not to mention education and programs to help those who capitalism has no use for.
Peace.
TBF
(32,064 posts)it's often disguised under the auspices of spreading "freedom" and "democracy" but there is little of that remaining in this country much less spreading it to others, as evidenced by the NSA spying and the most recent Supreme Court decision to gut the establishment clause. The Patriot Act removed any thoughts we had as to privacy.
We see it most clearly when there are horrors like genocide in countries we have no "interests" in. Obvious comparison is Nigeria (tons of oil). We are concerned with the care of the girls there but couldn't be bothered to lift a finger in Rwanda.