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TBF

(32,056 posts)
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:39 AM Jun 2014

Arne Duncan and Special Education -



This is what happens when you let profit be the driver for education in a society. You have buffoons like Duncan "in charge" and you set up both teachers and children for failure -


"We know that when students with disabilities are held to high expectations and have access to a robust curriculum, they excel," Duncan said.

In announcing a new emphasis and "major shift," the U.S. Department of Education will now demand that states show educational progress for students with disabilities.

Arne Duncan announced that, shockingly, students with disabilities do poorly in school. They perform below level in both English and math. No, there aren't any qualifiers attached to that. Arne is bothered that students with very low IQs, students with low function, students who have processing problems, students who have any number of impairments -- these students are performing below grade level.

"We know that when students with disabilities are held to high expectations and have access to a robust curriculum, they excel," Duncan said. (per NPR coverage)

And I'm pretty sure we don't know any such thing. I'm pretty sure that the special needs students in schools across the country are special needs precisely because they have trouble meeting the usual expectations.

There's no question that special needs students require more educational attention than simply being warehoused. And it's true that unnecessarily low expectations are no help to any student. But it is also true that an entire educational sub-specialty, a whole other class of training, has been developed simply to address the challenge of teaching students with special needs.

More here if you can stomach it: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-greene/disabilities-testing-education_b_5528835.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000020

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Arne Duncan and Special Education - (Original Post) TBF Jun 2014 OP
How are we going to change the education platform for 2016? Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #1
Do not nominate, nor elect, a neoliberal. LWolf Jun 2014 #2
I agree..but it won't be easy. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #4
whoever the candidate is will probably lie during the campaign Doctor_J Jun 2014 #9
Could be, but you realize what you just said would be in fact a step in the right direction. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #10
no, the candidate will be a privatizer, but will claim to be pro-public school Doctor_J Jun 2014 #11
I understand what you're saying, I think. Yet that would entail the candidate to distance Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #14
I can't stomach it. LWolf Jun 2014 #3
He is such an embarrassment. nt TBF Jun 2014 #5
OMFG! Is he clueless, Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #6
I'm convinced he's in it for the money - TBF Jun 2014 #7
Obama needs to cage and muzzle this idiot if he wants teachers to vote Doctor_J Jun 2014 #8
Do you believe that Arne is saying anything the President does not believe? Vincardog Jun 2014 #12
unfortunately no Doctor_J Jun 2014 #13
Sadly; This is where putting Party over Policy leaves us. Vincardog Jun 2014 #15
That is the sad truth - TBF Jun 2014 #17
The problem with Democrats at this stage of class struggle........ socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #20
"the Dems inevitably choose the owners" - TBF Jun 2014 #21
For many special ed children... yallerdawg Jun 2014 #16
Duncan knows nothing about education - TBF Jun 2014 #18
He knows nothing about edcating children. roody Jun 2014 #19
Well, we all know how I feel. Starry Messenger Jun 2014 #22
for special education ayushman Jun 2014 #23
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Jun 2014 #24

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
1. How are we going to change the education platform for 2016?
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 11:01 AM
Jun 2014

This may be a lost cause for now..the next administration needs to identify the
mistakes of Duncan and move away from these policies.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
9. whoever the candidate is will probably lie during the campaign
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 03:47 PM
Jun 2014

and then continue the school corporatization

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
10. Could be, but you realize what you just said would be in fact a step in the right direction.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 03:52 PM
Jun 2014

In order for them to lie they would have to first be opposed to these policies and my fear is that
just who is it that is even going to go there at all.

I am asking because I don't know..has Warren or Sanders said anything against these
policies?

The entire Duncan enterprise freaks me out.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
11. no, the candidate will be a privatizer, but will claim to be pro-public school
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 03:57 PM
Jun 2014

during the campaign. A lot like 2008

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
14. I understand what you're saying, I think. Yet that would entail the candidate to distance
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 04:09 PM
Jun 2014

themselves from these policies, correct? Or are you suggesting something else I am
over looking?

I am questioning if any candidate will do that at on any level. If they claim to be
pro-public school they would need to state how they differ from Duncan.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
3. I can't stomach it.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 11:58 AM
Jun 2014

I will say that my first reaction mirrored that already stated in your snip, if not so gracefully stated:

"We? Who the FUCK is 'We'? Does he have a cockroach in his pocket? Oh, wait...he IS the cockroach."

TBF

(32,056 posts)
7. I'm convinced he's in it for the money -
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 02:22 PM
Jun 2014

I've looked at this guy's bio - dad was a psychologist and he attended The Lab Schools in Chicago (private) and Harvard. Privileged kid who played basketball. He didn't even major in education yet landed himself a spot on Obama's cabinet. Someone has convinced him that privatizing education is the way to go.

The only good thing I've found to say about him is that he and his wife do actually have their children in public school in Northern Virginia (Fairfax County schools are excellent) as opposed to most politicians.



 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
8. Obama needs to cage and muzzle this idiot if he wants teachers to vote
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 03:43 PM
Jun 2014

Democratic this fall. I personally don't think the president gives a damn

TBF

(32,056 posts)
17. That is the sad truth -
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 05:53 PM
Jun 2014

I posted this here in Socialist Progressives, where many of us simply look at the candidates and choose who we think will do the least amount of harm to working folks. People like Arne Duncan do not help the Democrats make a strong case. And I'll go further and assert that the Democratic Party should think long and hard about pushing policies that will decimate unions.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
20. The problem with Democrats at this stage of class struggle........
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 08:05 PM
Jun 2014

is the same as it's always been. They CLAIM to be a political party for everybody, the worker and the owner. But ultimately, you've got to choose because class struggle IS, at it's base, a zero-sum game. During occasional periods when the worker actually does do good, the owners do a WHOLE lot better. And when the inevitable crash comes all the gains workers make during those "good times" are taken away.

During capitalist economic downturns, class struggle becomes more pronounced and people (and parties) actually have to choose a side. And the Dems inevitably choose the owners.

A REAL worker's party is needed, not some wishy-washy fake that will betray the workers for the owners when times are hard. Up to now, that hasn't been the Dems.

TBF

(32,056 posts)
21. "the Dems inevitably choose the owners" -
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 08:09 PM
Jun 2014

Yup. And Arne Duncan made that choice before he even started ...

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
16. For many special ed children...
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 05:09 PM
Jun 2014

teaching basic living skills is the Number 1 priority.

Their success would be measured by a whole other criteria.

Perhaps Duncan is referring to the many children the schools identify as 'special ed' because a) the school is starving for the Federal funds paid per student and b) teachers find ways to classify behavioral problems in kids as 'special ed' to alleviate some of their ever-increasing classroom management difficulties.

Duncan is dancing as fast as he can with some other agenda, not Federal educational reform.

TBF

(32,056 posts)
18. Duncan knows nothing about education -
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 05:56 PM
Jun 2014

the man doesn't even have a degree in elementary ed. I'd even take educational policy. Or human development. Anything even remotely related ...

But, no, we have a sociology major who played professional basketball heading up this critically important cabinet position.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
22. Well, we all know how I feel.
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 12:34 AM
Jun 2014

I spent all week in the company of teachers from all over CA. A more heroic bunch of people you will never meet. I don't know how sped and elementary teachers survive the crap they put up with.

Duncan applauded the stripping of teacher tenure from CA teachers. He can GFHS, as far as I am concerned.

ayushman

(1 post)
23. for special education
Fri Jun 27, 2014, 07:30 AM
Jun 2014

definetly its needed for new generation to move ahead with new educational system.

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