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LooseWilly

(4,477 posts)
3. Technically capital can create no surplus-value without the power of labor...
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 08:19 PM
Jul 2014

I mean, a factory owner can always take his assembly robots and sell them at the local flea market... so they have some value...

Might require some extra labor-power to do the shirt layout with the technical point though...

LooseWilly

(4,477 posts)
7. Heh... the robots are, technically, past labor... as is all capital.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 09:18 PM
Jul 2014

If we're going to try to talk about capital without any past labor... we're just gonna all stand around like those dudes from King of the Hill, muttering: "Yup..."




Even putting up fences to claim some fruit trees as one's own requires labor...

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
5. Hmmm. Nowdays, I'm wondering whether capital has any real value at all.....
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 08:28 PM
Jul 2014

After all, it's not a physical asset. It's just marks on paper or bytes in a computer somewhere.

LooseWilly

(4,477 posts)
8. Physical assets are capital, if they can be employed to produce commodities for sale.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 09:24 PM
Jul 2014

Technically, your shoes are capital assets, in so far as the IRS expects you to declare any income generated by their sale (less cost of goods sold, of course).

Hell, technically, your kidneys are capital assets, if you want to go into the (very short term) business of selling them.

If you wear your shoes to walk to (or around in the process of) work, however, then they are not capital. In that case, they are consumer goods... but the work-power that you put the shoes on to go out and sell, that is capital. It just ain't yours...

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