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Anybody following the Supreme Court arguments today? (Original Post) rug Mar 2012 OP
Yes, a 'few' of us! elleng Mar 2012 #1
What do you think? rug Mar 2012 #2
I think there's gonna be a lot of wasted speculation before the end of June... n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2012 #7
I think you are right. Firebrand Gary Mar 2012 #12
No bets; elleng Mar 2012 #8
Yes. Hepburn Mar 2012 #3
What about Sotomajor? CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #4
I keep wondering what the political climate on health care would be like today if rug Mar 2012 #5
I know. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #6
Never has been. elleng Mar 2012 #11
I don't think single payer was ever likely to pass... In question is more PoliticAverse Mar 2012 #9
Single payer would never have happened, imo; elleng Mar 2012 #10
I'm not so sure. rug Mar 2012 #13
219 and 60. We got the best we could get. Kennah Mar 2012 #14
Looks to me like single payer is only going to happen state by state eridani Mar 2012 #15
Well that would be a good start. rug Mar 2012 #16
MA is an absolute disaster for actual sick people eridani Mar 2012 #17
Whereas.... murphyj87 Mar 2012 #18
+1000 n/t eridani Mar 2012 #19

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
12. I think you are right.
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:48 PM
Mar 2012

Seems like there is a lot of "little picture" analysis from todays oral arguments.

elleng

(131,196 posts)
8. No bets;
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:37 PM
Mar 2012

foolish to bet on what Supremes will do after an argument. They're discussing the whole thing carefully.

 

CAPHAVOC

(1,138 posts)
4. What about Sotomajor?
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:33 PM
Mar 2012

She seemed skeptical. I thought Breyer, Ginsberg, and Kagan seemed to think it was Ok. I could not understand where Breyer was going with the vaccinations. I was not impressed by any of the Lawyers. There seemed to be a problem with the Government lawyer with trying to explain the limitations.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
5. I keep wondering what the political climate on health care would be like today if
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:33 PM
Mar 2012

the Administration had just put its weight behind single payer in the first place. All this effort riding on the predilections of one republican apppointee.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
9. I don't think single payer was ever likely to pass... In question is more
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:38 PM
Mar 2012

whether a public option (which Obama said a bill 'must include') would have.

elleng

(131,196 posts)
10. Single payer would never have happened, imo;
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:39 PM
Mar 2012

we got the best we could, in the (darned) circumstances.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
13. I'm not so sure.
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:49 PM
Mar 2012

A lot of the good components (e.g., eliminating denial based on pre-existing conditions) of this law are likely to have passed as free-standing bills. The question of single-payer would rise or fall on its own. Even if it failed a lot of good health legislation would exist.

Now, the whole edifice is teetering on the opinion of one man.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
15. Looks to me like single payer is only going to happen state by state
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 01:50 AM
Mar 2012

Can't see anything happening in red states at all.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
16. Well that would be a good start.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 12:44 PM
Mar 2012

The mandate started out on a state basis and now look at it.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
17. MA is an absolute disaster for actual sick people
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 02:02 PM
Mar 2012

50% of bankruptcies are STILL due to health care expenses.

murphyj87

(649 posts)
18. Whereas....
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 04:57 PM
Mar 2012

In Canada, with a single payer system, every Canadian has health care which is vastly better than most Americans stuck with insurance-run health care have, and we have almost all the money that Americans waste on insurance in our wallets. Bankruptcy from medical bills in Canada for citizens and non-citizen permanent residents (who are covered just like citizens after 90 days) is basically non-existant.

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