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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 08:26 PM Nov 2017

Anybody familiar with DXO photo editing software?

By familiar I mean actually using it. Claims of customizing the application to each specific camera brand and what looks like (on their website) astounding noise reduction on raw files. It's $200 but if I can get ISO 200 images at ISO 3000 its cheaper than a 2.8 super tele by about $2,200.

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Anybody familiar with DXO photo editing software? (Original Post) flamin lib Nov 2017 OP
I don't think software can replace a true telephoto.Not enough GreenPartyVoter Nov 2017 #1
I have the high quality optics. 1200mm equivalent. flamin lib Nov 2017 #4
you cant produce information that is not there. drray23 Nov 2017 #2
I currently have 1200mm (eq). flamin lib Nov 2017 #3
dXo is similar to Adobe Lightroom. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2017 #5
Thanks. $200 is a lot to spend on a single feature. flamin lib Nov 2017 #6
No software is going to get ISO 3000 looking like ISO 200. ManiacJoe Nov 2017 #7

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
4. I have the high quality optics. 1200mm equivalent.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 12:44 AM
Nov 2017

Max speed is f6.3 so I am stuck with excessively high ISO to get the shutter speed I need. High ISO = high noise hence my interest in DXOs claims of noise redunction.

Have you any experience with DXO?

drray23

(7,633 posts)
2. you cant produce information that is not there.
Tue Nov 21, 2017, 10:16 PM
Nov 2017

What digital zooms do is that they add pixels by scaling up the image and using various smoothing algorithms. If your original picture did not have the information in it. its not going to appear, no matter the software manipulations.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
3. I currently have 1200mm (eq).
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 12:36 AM
Nov 2017

What I don't have is f2 so I have to make up for it with excessively high ISO which generates noise which is why I'm interested in DXOs nose reduction.

Have you used DXO?

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
5. dXo is similar to Adobe Lightroom.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 11:35 AM
Nov 2017

The camera/lens profiles are for cleaning up chromatic aberration, not converting a wide lens to telephoto or making 3000iso look like 300.
It also has no touch-up tools.

You can only do so much to a digital image. If the data is not there, it’s not there, and you can’t make it there, regardless of what lens you used.

Yes, I’ve used it. I prefer Photoshop/Lightroom.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
6. Thanks. $200 is a lot to spend on a single feature.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 02:28 PM
Nov 2017

The noise reduction seen on DXO's website looks impressive. Like PSP's edge defining smooth feature but more dramatic.

I've discovered that if I select all the sharply focused parts of the image, invert the selection and use the median filter tool at 20% or higher it mimics extreme noise reduction. Noise remaining in the unmasked areas is camouflaged by the detailed texture in the focused areas. The noisy bokeh doesn't distract so much. Nowhere near as good as shooting at base ISO but if shooting at 3-8,000 is the only way to get the pic and the pic is worth the effort . . .

Seems we're always pushing the hardware passed design specs and being disappointed with the results. I mean what? It won't do HDR, focus stacking and sensor shift high resolution all in one operation? What kinda' amateurs ya got workin' in engineering anyway?

ETA. Don't need the chromatic aberration fix. Oly OMDs fix it in body with Zuiko glass.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
7. No software is going to get ISO 3000 looking like ISO 200.
Fri Nov 24, 2017, 05:37 PM
Nov 2017

That said, all modern software will do a good job at lowering the noise levels.

The trick is understanding what you will be doing with the final image, and using the minimum noise reduction needed for that purpose.

Printing and web viewing require lots less noise reduction than you think. Web viewing physically reduces the number of pixels seen, and printing visually reduces the number of pixels seen. Both processes naturally eat lots of the noise so that the noise reduction in the software can be used at quite low levels.

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